Links in comments

[crelding]

I've heard mixed things about this.

Is there a benefit from posting relevant links in relevant blog comments? I know the links will be NoFollow, but Google will still see them, and some people say they stillk count for something.

There is also the possible benefit that someone might read the comments and see the link and click it.

Also, is there any risk of damaging my site in Google's eyes?

I'm not talking 100s of comments, I just mean when I do a blog post look for ones on a similar topic and see if there is room for discussion with a reference to my post. E.g, perhaps they missed a bit of info out that I included on mine, or we came to different conclusions.

Thoughts?

 

[fisicx]

Google will index the comment but ignore the link. You might get the odd click once in a blue moon if you offer a useful solution.

 

[boring-friday]

You won't have a issue with up to 5 or so a day. Check what comment 'thingy' they're using as lots have disqus which google doesn't even index.
You can use this plugin and look for dofollow ones. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/seo-for-chrome/oangcciaeihlfmhppegpdceadpfaoclj

search google for 'keyword submit comment/add comment/add url/submit site/etc'

 

[crelding]

disqus which google doesn't even index.

you will have to clarify this with me.

When I search content in Google that is a comment is Disqus, the article page comes up. Does this not mean it is indexed?

I just searched this: "You l.ost me when you said "Green Pastures slandering" " which is pretty unique (partly due to the typo) am my post comes up 1st The phrase is only in Disqus,so doens't that mean Google has indexed it?

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

Google will index the comment but ignore the link. You might get the odd click once in a blue moon if you offer a useful solution.

Lol

Check what comment 'thingy' they're using as lots have disqus which google doesn't even index.

Disqus comments and Facebook plugin comments are indexed and fully crawlable.

search google for 'keyword submit comment/add comment/add url/submit site/etc'

Scraping Google this way is almost impossible nowadays. Just try to put some random query:

chicken recipe+comments powered by wordpress

you will see huge delay before get serps results. Also scraping serps with old school software like scrapebox, xrumer etc.. is much more harder.

You can help yourself with some individual bots, made by UbotStudio or ZenBot for example. All you need to do is just slow down scraping tempo and get private proxy if you have big project to do.

 

[cormac reynolds]

Hi,

My thoughts on this are:

• The link may work as a referral
• If indexed it can help create more natural anchor text for your site
• No follow may have some benefit though it's debatable

 

[CarlReed]

Google will still count the link but it'll only have a fraction of the impact on your rankings.

Plus Nofollow links make your link profile appear more natural.

And if you're one of the first to comments on a popular post you will get traffic.

RE no-follow links- links from Wikipedia are no-follow but will still give you a big boost so don't listen to anyone who says no-follow is worth nothing.

 

[StevePoster]

Is there a benefit from posting relevant links in relevant blog comments?

It will serve as a guide to the readers for better knowledge but don't expect as a basis to please Google but rather as a message to the users that they will be benefited.

 

[WikiWill]

Most links are no follow these days and as long as it's natural don't turn your nose up at it. Using keywords as anchor text is always good practice too.

 

[mindhunter]

I've heard mixed things about this.

Is there a benefit from posting relevant links in relevant blog comments? I know the links will be NoFollow, but Google will still see them, and some people say they stillk count for something.

There is also the possible benefit that someone might read the comments and see the link and click it.

Also, is there any risk of damaging my site in Google's eyes?

I'm not talking 100s of comments, I just mean when I do a blog post look for ones on a similar topic and see if there is room for discussion with a reference to my post. E.g, perhaps they missed a bit of info out that I included on mine, or we came to different conclusions.

Thoughts?

Yeah this is a great practice you are following and as you that for sure that links post in some related blog via blog commenting is not indexed by the search engines that's why they are no-follow links. But even it is a no-follow links it does not harness any link juice but necessarily brought huge traffic and to so extent if you are commenting on relevant blogs than you will earn some customers/clients.
And there is nothing wrong in the context of Google as long as your are doing it as spam, i.e. commenting more than ten comments daily. Other than it is well and good.
Thanks

 

[Venchito Tampon]

Blog commenting is profitable when you use it for branding and relationship building purposes. For example, before pitching a guest post to someone, you can start commenting on his recent blog post so you can easily connect with him even before the guest blogging campaign starts.

 

[threenine]

The sad thing is, you're missing the whole point of commenting. You're commenting to get on with google! When the reality is commenting is about engaging. Engage with the author try discuss the commonality about your posts, try to spark a conversation. This will enhance your perception as an expert on the subject.

Other users may take an interest in the debate. You might even learn a thing or two about the subject/customer .

It's absolutely pointless commenting to just try and fool google about the popularity of your site!

 

[Tom_Dwan]

Definitely, the whole point of SEO as a whole is not to try to manipulate Google, but to try to understand our customers' and provide them with useful and helpful content. The search engine giant is getting really close to fully understand users intent, so when we give our customers useful stuff Google should put us in front or at least that's what white hat SEOs say. In the sad SEO reality, nothing is 100% sure.

When it comes to comments back in the spammy days they used to be really powerful link building approach. They were pure spam- exact match anchors, not useful at all and so on.. and they worked. Nowadays, I am not a big fan of them, but it is definitely true that they are useful to vary our link profile to make it look more natural.

 

[ToivoHalvorsen]

Not sure, Google follows dofollow links only. But your links will be counted as backlinks. If you target quality (nofollow, dofollow) sites to get backlinks, you will be benefited.

 

[Hospitality_king]

Blog comments don't work as its impossible to gain traction amongst the other blog comments.

We noticed this with one of our own blogs and you need to know that the disable feature is easy to stop future or all comment, and blog owners are aware of spam and will kick you out if your deamed as spammy in the slightest way, so beware.

 

[Leandros21]

Yes, no follow links in the comments for relevant to your industry(niche) are valuable from the side of SEO. It brings you traffic and if this traffic spend enough time to your website, has low bounce rate etc then it's high effective.

 

[Emu]

you would increase the weigh of the link slightly if you get it in the body of the comment and not as a name linking back to your website

 

[fisicx]

Won't make any difference. The link is still no follow so has zero SEO benefit

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

Won't make any difference. The link is still no follow so has zero SEO benefit

Wake up dude - we are living in 2016 not 2006. Google is making +- 500 changes during the one year only - looks like you missed something. Please run some tests before make so fatuous comment.

Please keep in mind:

1. there is no black or white seo
2. there is no difference between no and do follow links.

 

[fisicx]

there is no difference between no and do follow links.

Please explain.

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

Cannot be explain easier as it was described - rel="nofollow" and rel=”dofollow” are "almost" equal.

 

[fisicx]

There is no such thing as rel=”dofollow” Links are followed by default. The only option is to nofollow.

A nofollow link will not be followed by the search engines which means the target page will not benefit from that link. That's the whole point of nofollow.

How does Google handle nofollowed links?
In general, we don't follow them. This means that Google does not transfer PageRank or anchor text across these links. Essentially, using nofollow causes us to drop the target links from our overall graph of the web. However, the target pages may still appear in our index if other sites link to them without using nofollow, or if the URLs are submitted to Google in a Sitemap. Also, it's important to note that other search engines may handle nofollow in slightly different ways.

https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/96569?hl=en

Now if something has changed and Google does now follow these links and pass PageRank or do some other funky stuff then it's not something people have been shouting about.

No follow links can lead to great things but I don't believe there is any direct SEO benefit. Unless you know different....

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

This video was released on 04.03.2009 - put some effort into your research.

I see that you're another Cutts believer, among many failed SEOs.

Matt Cutts in 2004 denies that seo even exists, and he claimed that SERPS can not be manipulated via any external signals.

Many sheeps <removed> followed the guidelines covered with fear to "break the RULES"

 

[fisicx]

No, I'm not a Matt Cutts believer. But you were still wrong, there is no such thing as rel=”dofollow”.

You haven't explained how nofollow now has any SEO benefits. Maybe if you helped people in your posts rather than being so agressive everyone would benefit from your knowledge.

Not sure how asking for an explanation makes me a sheep.

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

I did an explanation few posts above and its all I can say - can you read? Do you expect I will share my highest skills publicly to help many of my competitors achieve their goals? <removed>

Just by saying nofollow have a value to SEO I helped a lot, and its based on experience not on estimation or conjectures<removed>

Im not the only one who call a sheep people who try to prove their right just because Matt Cutts say so.

<removed>

 

[fisicx]

All you said was: 'there is no difference between no and do follow links.' and 'rel="nofollow" and rel=”dofollow” are "almost" equal.'

As rel=”dofollow” doesn't exist as a tag I'm struggling to understand your explanation. And if there is no difference between followed and nofollowed links then are you suggesting we no longer need rel=”nofollow”? If that is the case then it pretty much turns everything on it's head. It means all SM links now have value as do all blog comments and so on.

I'm not asking you to give away all your secrets but to suggest nofollow = followed links is a pretty major statement.

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

I know that dofollow is a default for all <a href></a> Im not an idiot. We use dofollow term just to describe opposite to nofollow.

Here is the great place to start for SEO begginers like you:

http://etechdiary.com/what-is-do-follow-and-no-follow-for-beginners/

Read closely what "dofollow" means.

 

[fisicx]

You suggested that there is such a thing as rel=”dofollow” (which there isn't) and that nofollow links are almost equal to followed links. If that is the case then why even have rel=”nofollow”?

The article you linked to says that nofollow 'backlinks are not important in terms of search engines as it is not crawled'. Which it what I said.

You seem to be suggesting that a nofollow link does have SEO value - or am I misunderstanding what you posted.

I'm not wanting an argument, just some clarification.

 

[Marek Skoczylas]

It's really annoying to argue with an SEO newbies like you.

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=dofollow

 

[fisicx]

I know the difference between a followed link (dofollow) and nofollow. I get that. Every article and post I have read tells me the search engines will follow one but not the other. Which means there is a distinct difference between them.

I'm just asking you to confirm your statement that the two types of links are the same / almost equal in terms of SEO. By that I mean Google will treat them both the same. This seems to be what you are suggesting: dofollow = nofollow.

 

[zigojacko]

I know that dofollow is a default for all <a href></a> Im not an idiot. We use dofollow term just to describe opposite to nofollow.

Here is the great place to start for SEO begginers like you:

http://etechdiary.com/what-is-do-follow-and-no-follow-for-beginners/

Read closely what "dofollow" means.

That article was clearly written by someone that hasn't got a clue, by your label, let's call them an 'SEO beginner', because it states in the first point that a dofollow link (which doesn't exist) is determined by a relationship tag rel="dofollow" (which also doesn't exist).

I don't believe rel="dofollow" has ever existed in valid markup.

Furthermore, it also states you can use rel="external" to define the link as do follow which is also not true. The relationship tag rel="external" indicates links to external sources and has nothing to do with whether a link is followable for search engines or not. You could even use both relationships in the same tag like rel="external nofollow" if you even wanted.

If you're going to shout about your SEO expertise/brilliance and/or put other members down by patronising theirs, I'd suggest it would be advisable to get your facts and citation sources spot on.

I can't say I fully understand the point you were earlier making, alike @fisicx but I will go as far as saying that there are benefits of both nofollow links and followable links but they are different and not "almost equal" as you earlier claimed.

 

[Emu]

Wow - SEO guys are aggressive, they love to argue and fight over whos right, I dont so this isnt directed at anyone!

Not taking sides and Im just a guy on the internet so do your own research and dont take anyones word as fact but I can say I buy on average over 10k domains per month and I put up well over 100 million pages on those domains each month and I track every single little thing with custom scripts the domains with nofollow links get a lot more traffic than the ones that dont.

Google tells us that this is not the case some people in SEO say they help others dont, no one knows for sure......

There are other things to consider though, dismissing them totally seems crazy, if you say they pass no value then maybe you mean they dont pass "weight/link juice/what ever its called this month" but:

can you say with 100% certainty that the anchor text isnt used in any part of the algorithm?
can you say if you use a naked url to link that you are not reducing the overweight of exact match links somewhere else?
can you say that it doesnt help with indexing on large sites?
when you have a site that has very little authority or weight does no follow play more part?
can you say for sure trustflow/citation flow/DA/PA are not impacted by no follow, if they are and you sell links from your stie you can charge more them if you inflate these numbers because people trust them?

Please no one feel obliged to go over the above questions and answer them Im just using them as examples.

Also and I guess this doesnt apply to many or any people here but I do a lot of work with russians (yandex) and it seems to help ranking on both yandex and seznam.cz so who knows if it will help bring in any yahoo or bing traffic......

Just some thoughts as Im trying to post something useful each day since I had some useful advice from some forum members to my questions

 

[Hospitality_king]

Do you expect I will share my highest skills publicly to help many of my competitors achieve their goals? - grow up dude!

Brilliant! one of the best responses by a smart individual, who sussed the game.

 

[AllUpHere]

I'm loving the Irony of @fisicx being told to grow up by a member who has a tendency to end a sentence with 'dude'.

 

[Hospitality_king]

and he claimed that SERPS can not be manipulated via any external signals.

Isn't that Google's Mantra eg; 'do no evil' - except I thought the point of Google was to force the fight/struggle to maintain rankings 'for free', so theres your freebie so to speak, yet at the same time to control and make it so tough to gain links, rankings etc, that paid advertising must be bought to compete.and make sales, (hopefully on Google, as Google wants), but if you are to do this elsewhere, you are penalised for it.

Why do so many feel the constant need to keep discussing what is so out of their control, and that you cannot defeat the machine that is Google.

 

[fisicx]

Brilliant! one of the best responses by a smart individual, who sussed the game.

Except I wasn't asking him to reveal anything. All I asked him to do was confirm his assertion that nofollow links are the same as followed links. But he didn't.

 

[Usman Ahmed]

Forget about comments for rankings.

Comment on relevant blogs to your niche for the referral traffic!

 

[SEO Service Bangalore]

The google follows only do-follow links so you can work with good quality do-follow back links it will benefited for your website.