Is it within my rights to get an abandoned vehicle removed from my driveway when the owner refuses to do so?

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DontAsk

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He left it patially raised it up, I mean how do I operate whatever that thing is called. I am motoring ignorant..
It's a big standard car Jack. Looks like the lever for it is lying next to it.

More interesting is what will happen if you wind the Jack down? There a lot of rust there.
Even If I immediately report it as abandoned to the council would I still be in trouble due to the expired mot, insurance and tax?
If the tax has expired then it needs a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification). Reporting that (to DVLA?) Might be an option.
 
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    Thanks, but tbh that looks like a scam?


    It is not a scam. It gives complete instructions regarding how to get rid of the abandoned vehicle. It would cost you £19.99.

    I feel that you have been given complete advice regarding how to deal with this. If you are indeed not competent to recognise a car Jack, then you certainly should not attempt to use it. Instead just contact the provided link and follow their instructions.

    Otherwise I will have to agree with the other poster who says that this is a wind up
     
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    Yes but not the middle of the road like some have said, sure will get removed immediately, but also increases odds of investigation. A moderate version is wiser.

    Let’s think this through for a minute. There is a van that has been sitting on your drive for months. It is an uphill slope from where it is to the road, so it cannot roll onto the road on its own. You have previously contacted the council regarding this van on your drive.

    If it suddenly appears on the road they will likely suspect that you moved it.

    If they read this public forum then they will have more evidence of your intent to move it.

    Spend £19.99. Get it done legally by professionals.
     
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    If moving the car be aware of Fagan v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis:

    On August 31, 1967, the appellant was reversing a motor car in Fortunegate Road, London, N.W.10, when police Constable Morris directed him to drive the car forwards to the kerbside and standing in front of the car pointed out a suitable place in which to park. At first the appellant stopped the car too far from the kerb for the officer's liking. Morris asked him to park closer and indicated a precise spot. The appellant drove forward towards him and stopped it with the offside wheel on Morris's left foot. “Get off, you are on my foot,” said the officer. “**** you, you can wait,” said the appellant. The engine of the car stopped running. Morris repeated several times “Get off my foot.” The appellant said reluctantly “Okay man, okay,” and then slowly turned on the ignition of the vehicle and reversed it off the officer's foot.

    The justices at quarter sessions on those facts were left in doubt as to whether the mounting of the wheel on to the officer's foot was deliberate or accidental. They were satisfied, however, beyond all reasonable doubt that the appellant “knowingly, provocatively and unnecessarily allowed the wheel to remain on the foot after the officer said ‘Get off, you are on my foot’.” They found that on those facts an assault.
     
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    If moving the car be aware of Fagan v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis:

    On August 31, 1967, the appellant was reversing a motor car in Fortunegate Road, London, N.W.10, when police Constable Morris directed him to drive the car forwards to the kerbside and standing in front of the car pointed out a suitable place in which to park. At first the appellant stopped the car too far from the kerb for the officer's liking. Morris asked him to park closer and indicated a precise spot. The appellant drove forward towards him and stopped it with the offside wheel on Morris's left foot. “Get off, you are on my foot,” said the officer. “**** you, you can wait,” said the appellant. The engine of the car stopped running. Morris repeated several times “Get off my foot.” The appellant said reluctantly “Okay man, okay,” and then slowly turned on the ignition of the vehicle and reversed it off the officer's foot.

    The justices at quarter sessions on those facts were left in doubt as to whether the mounting of the wheel on to the officer's foot was deliberate or accidental. They were satisfied, however, beyond all reasonable doubt that the appellant “knowingly, provocatively and unnecessarily allowed the wheel to remain on the foot after the officer said ‘Get off, you are on my foot’.” They found that on those facts an assault.

    Once again, off on an irrelevant tangent.
     
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    Leave it outside a school or on a bus stop. Won't be there for long.

    A long time ago I knew someone who towed a bunch of abandoned vehicles to the entrance to the council offices. Seem to recall some hefty fines for the vehicle owners.
    The person with the transporter might be responsible for it, if left on red route, scool zone, bus stop etc. Get a transporter and place it on the normal residential road. Let someone else report it as an abandoned vehicle.

    Safest way to protect yourself from being sued
     
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    You could at least https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

    "You don’t need to tax your car if you’re not driving or parking it on a public highway. If it’s kept off road in a garage, on a drive or on private land, it must be declared SORN. SORN stands for Statutory Off Road Notification. You may decide to do this if you’re going away for an extended period or your car is being restored, for example. If a vehicle isn’t declared SORN, you’ll still need to tax it."
     
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    DontAsk

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    You could at least https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

    "You don’t need to tax your car if you’re not driving or parking it on a public highway. If it’s kept off road in a garage, on a drive or on private land, it must be declared SORN. SORN stands for Statutory Off Road Notification. You may decide to do this if you’re going away for an extended period or your car is being restored, for example. If a vehicle isn’t declared SORN, you’ll still need to tax it."
    Yeah, see post #47
     
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