IE9 does not run Adobe Flash 11 nor works with Wordpress

eventdomain · Dec 18, 2011

I just bought a new laptop with IE's latest browser IE9, but there's some serious flaws in Explorer's latest browser.

For starters you wont be able to run Adobe Flash 11, it doesn't instal, thus videos wont play - quite a fatal blow to Microsoft that one. Also, Wordpress fails to update blog posts using IE9 as well.

But on a side note, Google Chrome allows Video to be played and the use of Wordpress with zero technical issues.

But the biggest boo boo is word on the web says you cannot re-instal IE8, while IE9 is present. I did some checking and seems many are unhappy about this flaw, I tried loading Flash 11 loads of times and it just doesnt work.

Working First Aid · Dec 18, 2011

Are these faults built in to the browser or is it just in need of patching?

OldWelshGuy · Dec 18, 2011

have you turned off active x filtering?

Subbynet · Dec 18, 2011

Just tried it myself, seems to work fine.

Employment Law Clinic · Dec 18, 2011

Subbynet said:
Just tried it myself, seems to work fine.

Same here.

Karl Limpert

Employment Law Clinic · Dec 18, 2011

ED, are you using 64 bit, as I believe Flash isn't compatible? If so, you should have a 32 bit version of IE installed too.

Karl Limpert

Posilan · Dec 18, 2011

Working fine for me too (and a load of our clients).

Download the correct installer here:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/909550

Steve

JDX_John · Dec 19, 2011

Wordpress works great on IE9 - far better than IE7 or IE8. Never had any problems with anything on IE9 - Flash included.

OldWelshGuy · Dec 19, 2011

ED, did you ever get to the bottom of this?

smo · Dec 19, 2011

IE9 works fine here and has done for a while, flash, wordpress the lot without problems.

The only issue I have is the royal mail website which doesnt even work with IE8!!!

OldWelshGuy · Dec 19, 2011

smo said:
IE9 works fine here and has done for a while, flash, wordpress the lot without problems.

The only issue I have is the royal mail website which doesnt even work with IE8!!!

Does royal mail work with anything

Joke, I have total rspect for the mail we have the best in the world

eventdomain · Dec 19, 2011

ED, are you using 64 bit

Yup, its a 64 bit.

OldWelshGuy · Dec 19, 2011

eventdomain said:
ED, are you using 64 bit

Click to expand...

Yup, its a 64 bit.

that will be it then. we got there in the end. have to agree though it is poor.
As an aside, Microsoft are not supporting flash on their lite version of windows 10, so it is the death knell for it, html5 is the way ahead now.

there are going to be a LOT of websites that will suffer from un-dignified degradation

cmcp · Dec 19, 2011

OldWelshGuy said:
there are going to be a LOT of websites that will suffer from un-dignified degradation

Agreed, avoid plugins and progressively enhance.

trebor8 · Dec 19, 2011

OldWelshGuy said:
that will be it then. we got there in the end. have to agree though it is poor.
As an aside, Microsoft are not supporting flash on their lite version of windows 10, so it is the death knell for it, html5 is the way ahead now.

there are going to be a LOT of websites that will suffer from un-dignified degradation

After all this time HTML5 video still doesn't have a common standard format and there is the major issue of content security

OldWelshGuy · Dec 19, 2011

trebor8 said:
After all this time HTML5 video still doesn't have a common standard format and there is the major issue of content security

Sorry, I did look but there was no sarcasm smilie for me to use. I agree that HTML5 will cause as many issues as it solves, probably more in fact.

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

OldWelshGuy said:
As an aside, Microsoft are not supporting flash on their lite version of windows 10, so it is the death knell for it, html5 is the way ahead now.

Well iOS has never had Flash so people are aware to make sites that work... not that they always do. Even on Android Flash is not a given, so MS are only following suit and blocking Flash for mobile use - for desktops it will be here a long time especially since it is the only cross-browser way to do accelerated 3D without making the user install a plugin.

I'm interested to wait and see if other browsers are available on Metro which will allow Flash - is MS blocking the plugin or just blocking plugins in their browser.

DotNetWebs · Dec 20, 2011

JDX_John said:
...it is the only cross-browser way to do accelerated 3D without making the user install a plugin...

Bur Flash *IS* a plugin

Regards

Dotty

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

Well duh. But it means you don't have users installing bespoke plugins for each 3D app.

Posilan · Dec 20, 2011

JDX_John said:
for desktops it will be here a long time especially since it is the only cross-browser way to do accelerated 3D without making the user install a plugin.

Not so - HTML5 can use hardware GPU acceleration without any plugins.

Steve

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

Incorrect.

GPU acceleration and 3D graphics are not the same thing. HTML5 has the former for video, and browsers use hardware acceleration for drawing the web-page, but 3D rendering is not part of either of those things. This is what WebGL attempts to achieve - access to 3D rendering hardware directly through JavaScript - but this is not HTML5. Google's NaCl also allows access to 3D rendering but that's a Chrome-specific extension so not as useful.

OldWelshGuy · Dec 20, 2011

JDX_John said:
Well iOS has never had Flash so people are aware to make sites that work... not that they always do. Even on Android Flash is not a given, so MS are only following suit and blocking Flash for mobile use - for desktops it will be here a long time especially since it is the only cross-browser way to do accelerated 3D without making the user install a plugin.

I'm interested to wait and see if other browsers are available on Metro which will allow Flash - is MS blocking the plugin or just blocking plugins in their browser.

Indeed, but metro is intended and apparently is going to be the weapon of choice for windows tablets, which are becoming more and more popular.

OldWelshGuy · Dec 20, 2011

woop woop chicken soup here we go, geekfight

Nice to see a geekfight that isn't about SEO.

Posilan · Dec 20, 2011

JDX_John said:
GPU acceleration and 3D graphics are not the same thing.

Indeed - I missed the "3D" when reading your post

WebGL won't take off unless MS starts to implement it by default in IE.

Steve

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

OldWelshGuy said:
Indeed, but metro is intended and apparently is going to be the weapon of choice for windows tablets, which are becoming more and more popular.

I agree, and I'd prefer Flash was supported. My guess is MS have seen how Apple got away with this and figured they can too - iPad is so huge sites are being forced to work without Flash.

Note, you can use regular Windows mode on tablets (I think, though not sure how ARM figures in that), to access the full IE10 with plugin support. If so, it might be good enough as a fallback.

OldWelshGuy said:
woop woop chicken soup here we go, geekfight

Nice to see a geekfight that isn't about SEO.

Well I'm a software developer who works in the field of 3D rendering - it's not a fight simply that the browser people use "GPU acceleration" a bit indiscriminately and therefore that non-techies don't follow the fine detail is hardly surprising, especially when HTML5 isn't even what most people refer to as HTML5 in the first place!

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

Posilan said:
Indeed - I missed the "3D" when reading your post

WebGL won't take off unless MS starts to implement it by defaultt in IE.

Steve

Yeah and they have no immediate plans - though to be fair there are genuine, serious security issues with WebGL which haven't been fixed (that I know of).

DotNetWebs · Dec 20, 2011

Has anyone tried viewing this forum on an Android device while that Kashflow ad is running (the one where the hoops follow your mouse pointer)?

When I did it was the first time I starting to thing maybe Steve Jobs did have a point

Regards

Dotty

JDX_John · Dec 20, 2011

The problem there is that as HTML5 matures, we're going to see the exact same things... ads done in JS/HTML5 that are just as CPU-thrashing. The problem isn't Flash being inefficient or slow, but that it lets developers do full-blown programs in the browser, which can be written really badly. Exactly the same can happen with HTML5 so expect new advances in ad-block technology soon

trebor8 · Dec 20, 2011

OldWelshGuy said:
Indeed, but metro is intended and apparently is going to be the weapon of choice for windows tablets, which are becoming more and more popular.

Steve Jobs must be turning in his grave

Flash may still become deliverable via AIR as is the case with Android etc

DotNetWebs · Dec 20, 2011

JDX_John said:
...ads done in JS/HTML5 that are just as CPU-thrashing...

Yes I agree and IMO this forum does a pretty bad job already with 'regular' JavaScript.

There are so many things being loaded in the background that it's often hard or impossible to use the "Quick Links" menu (etc.) on a slow connection or mobile device.

OK it's generally more 'latency' than 'CPU' thrashing but it's still an example of resources being devoted to ads/analytics etc. at the expense of the core functions.

Regards

Dotty

jitendra1990 · Dec 20, 2011

IE in general isn't exactly the most lenient browser in the world

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