How to value a business?

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Alex Lever

I'm currently performing market research on a couple of companies. I was particularly looking at their financial information on companies house, I've got access to their company accounts which shows their assets and shareholder information.

I was wondering if there were any particular formulas that could be used to find out the value of a business? For example their debt to asset ratio can look at how many of the companies assets are financed by debt.

Thanks, Alex.
 
1. @Clinton is the lad for this one! http://ukbusinessbrokers.com/gallery/

2. It's whatever someone wants to pay for the damn thing!

3. Everything depends on what you and others think will happen in the future!

4. Bookkeeping can be a very 'creative' art indeed!

5. The owners will know something you don't, so you have to talk to everybody, suppliers, customers, rivals, anybody and everybody to get a handle on which way the wind is blowing.

6. There is no magic formula. A loss-making one-man company can be worth billions, a profitable 1,000-man company can be a turkey to be avoided at all costs!

7. You MUST understand the market they are in and do so in great depth.

8. You must also understand how that market will interact with the outside World. e.g. How will self-driving cars effect the breakfast cereal market? How will ever-increasing computing power effect the white-goods market?

9. You must also calculate the costs of setting up in competition to that business.

10. You must put a sticker price on the assets of that company - do they own the building? What IP do they own and what is its value today and tomorrow?
 
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    @The Byre , thanks for the mention. But you've got it spot on there with every single point you made! :)

    I was wondering if there were any particular formulas that could be used to find out the value of a business?
    There are plenty of formulae. And they are all myths. Every single one of them.

    A proper valuation by a qualified valuer would be several pages long, provide a range of figures rather than one or two and quote various situations and scenarios in which even those vague figures and ranges wouldn't apply. They'd also have a list of caveats and disclaimers as long as your arm.

    Important ratios are Quick Ratio, Return on Equity etc. (this post of mine should link you to useful information on financial ratios), but you can't value a company from the type of data you get at Companies House.
     
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    Angel investors need just one part good product (with protected IP) and 99 parts good gut feeling about the founders.

    DD is angel - high risk with valuation based more on instinct than a comprehensive analysis of the figures. Makes for good TV ...especially when you cut out all the less exciting bits.
     
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    In all fairness, they are only using or quoting the valuations placed on some enterprise by the owners. If you offer someone a 20% share for £100,000, then you (and not the investor or anybody else) are saying that your company has a value of £500,000.

    One thing I have always wondered about is, when do the Dragons expect the firm become that value.? Is it when the business people walk into the Dragon's Den, a year later, 2 years later? I doubt if any could be sold for that value on the open market until months or years after the deal is done on Dragon's Den,
     
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    One of my favourite things on DD is....

    Entrepreneur: I want £100k for 20%
    Dragon: Your saying it's work half a million with a turnover of £60k and no profit to speak of???
    Entrepeneur: No, but that's what it will be worth when I've got your money, time and contacts!!

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people do this and give some far flung future valuation based on actually receiving the dragons money!

    And charge them a premium for it!
     
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    One of my favourite things on DD is....

    Entrepreneur: I want £100k for 20%
    Dragon: Your saying it's work half a million with a turnover of £60k and no profit to speak of???
    Entrepeneur: No, but that's what it will be worth when I've got your money, time and contacts!!

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people do this and give some far flung future valuation based on actually receiving the dragons money!

    And charge them a premium for it!

    Mind you, they are quick to change their tune when they see little more than an idea but know it has considerable value.

    If they're very confident they can put money in and receive more money out, they're happy to contradict themselves when it comes to strategy.

    I suppose this alludes to what Clinton mentioned. There really is no set formula or strategy when it comes to business valuation. The potential in a business, and the possible ROI, can be measured in so many different ways.

    There are tech ventures in San Francisco receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in funding despite no assets, no profit and significant debt. They would cataclysmically fail any business valuation formula you could find.
     
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    As a rule of thumb i heard the value price should be 3.5 x the annual net profit of any business,

    A few years ago I heard one of the Dragons saying something like that - I cannot remember which one. It seemed too simplistic at the time to me. It is an entertainment programme essentially after all and not like real life. Many of those programmes are not like real life but just show biz entertainment. Homes Under the Hammer, Bargain Hunt, Storage Hunters etc.
     
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    As a rule of thumb i heard the value price should be 3.5 x the annual net profit of any business,

    Sadly that idea of some rule of thumb does not hold out for even one example in the real world. The real value can be hidden in any one of dozens of factors, IP, real estate, missed opportunities, key skills of certain staff.

    And it ain't just small companies that hide assets, liabilities or missed opportunities. Giant corporations with a market cap of billions, can, in reality be total basket cases to be avoided at all costs!

    In 1999, Polaroid was worth billions, if we just look at the market cap when its share price went bonkers on the back of the massive sales of the cheaper instant cameras. Within two years the company had a minus value, because management was stupid enough to sell off all its rights and research into digital photography.

    Hidden from outside eyes, they gave away their future for pennies, because they could not see how to make a profit from digital - they only understood the economics of the Gillette razor and the Inkjet.

    In around 2012 Facebook launched its IPO and was deemed worth well over $100 billion. That was a geek-service with no profits. Investors were not looking at the profits, they were looking at the potential.

    Potential can go the other way. In 2002, a little-known company called Avid that made video and audio hardware, interfaces and render cards that allowed low-powered PCs and Macs to render and edit video and even edit films, was pottering along at $10-$13 a share. Then it launched a series of very successful hi-definition cards for both audio and video and the share price shot up to over $60.

    The one thing management and investors completely missed was (1) Moore's Law, that computer speeds and capacity doubles every two years. And (2) the truism that software, when not updated and expanded vigorously, loses its value totally in about ten years.

    Instead of spending their new-found wealth on R&D, they went on a mad-cap round of M&As of all sorts of media creation companies, spending a total of about $1.2 billion! Nearly all those acquisitions had to be sold off in a fire-sale for under $100m and they had to borrow against all their IP assets a further $200m just to keep afloat.

    Because expensive R&D staff in the USA had to be fired to cut costs, the software stagnated and other manufacturers caught up and even overtook the once market-leader. The share price fell to $4.74 in overnight trading last night and the reality is, the company is still trading, but the net value is probably roughly zero.

    I can think of one company that has one employee, the owner, and a hand-full of freelancers helping out, that must be worth at least in the mid-nine-figures. The owner came up with one very, very simple idea - why write a programme that crunches numbers? Why not write a programme that merely calculates the commands and leave the number-crunching up to the OS and the internal native drivers? That way, one tiny programme can wrangle terabytes of data instantly, whereas all the others require huge gobs of hardware and still take ages to do anything.
     
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    The most basic way to value a business is to consider the value of its hard assets minus its debts.Imagine a landscaping company with trucks and gardening equipment. These hard assets have value, which can be calculated by estimating the resale value of your equipment.
     
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    The most basic way to value a business is to consider the value of its hard assets minus its debts.
    Some companies are acquired almost entirely for their portfolio of patents ... or other IP. Some derive value entirely from the team they've put together. No hard assets, no soft assets. (Ever heard of acquihire?)

    These businesses are sold for millions, or hundreds of millions.

    Using your "basic way" these companies are all worth zip.

    There is no easy way to value a business, no simple formula, no rule of thumb, no "basic way", sorry.
     
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    Some derive value entirely from the team they've put together. No hard assets, no soft assets.

    I know of exactly that happening to a group in my turf. An entire team based in London was fired by the parent company, who wanted that department taken over by a far cheaper and smaller Canadian software team, so the key engineers who had lost their jobs got themselves together and formed a 'business unit' and placed that on the market.

    They had no IP, no product and of course, no trading record - but know-how, they had in spades! They were picked up by a giant Japanese company that had always wanted to enter that segment - the deal has those 12 guys and their great-grandchildren set for life!
     
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    Samaksh

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    Some companies are acquired almost entirely for their portfolio of patents ... or other IP. Some derive value entirely from the team they've put together. No hard assets, no soft assets. (Ever heard of acquihire?)

    These businesses are sold for millions, or hundreds of millions.

    Using your "basic way" these companies are all worth zip.

    There is no easy way to value a business, no simple formula, no rule of thumb, no "basic way", sorry.
    As per my point of view, this is the most basic and simple way to explain anyone on "how to value a business". So, I've stated here. I know there are more big formulas and ways to do the same. But in my opinion, this is the correct way.
     
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