How Much Is SEO?

Oh dear - don't give up the day job!!!

You don't seriously think old Taffy slap head has a job.?

The sheep are more of a hobby.

Earl

 

[Ali-v-8]

You don't seriously think old Taffy slap head has a job.?

The sheep are more of a hobby.

Earl

You can always rely on you straight to the point WIT.
Cruel Harsh and Demoralising.
You remind me of my ex wife

 

[OldWelshGuy]

You don't seriously think old Taffy slap head has a job.?

The sheep are more of a hobby.

Earl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw

take it back old man, get back to selling chinese 1/12 scale jetski's (or whatever the combination is these days you are sel ling )

 

You can always rely on you straight to the point WIT.
Cruel Harsh and Demoralising.
You remind me of my ex wife

Oh don't worry about the Welsh Wizard he can give as good as he gets and some.

The shiny bounced fraud calls himself Old Welsh Guy.

He's 20 years younger than me.

Earl

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw

take it back old man, get back to selling chinese 1/12 scale jetski's (or whatever the combination is these days you are sel ling )

Great video.

Are you the one with the wet nose.?:|

Earl

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Great video.

Are you the one with the wet nose.?:|

Earl

No I am the smiling bald one standing behind her

 

[Ali-v-8]

Great video.

Are you the one with the wet nose.?:|

Earl

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah hahaa ouch think i cracked a rib

 

No I am the smiling bald one standing behind her

Oh I did wonder if you might be the shaggy one with all the clingons.?

Earl

 

[Kerri at Lantern]

Wow! I didn't realise there was such variation in the pricing. My brother offers this service as a freelancer and he is way cheaper than the figures quoted because he feels he has to compete with all the other cheap companies on the Internet. I keep telling him he's underselling himself!

Personally I think SEO cannot and should not be done in isolation, but as part of an overall PR & Marketing strategy for best results. I've teamed up with my brother so that when I create a PR strategy, SEO can be part of that and the overall effect of many hits across a range of media should create the results clients are looking for.

 

[sunny09]

Google adward and yahoo adword is advertise charged to improve the rank. It is not what the SEO does.
I have some suggestions:
1. Choose some suitable keywords
2. Use some valueable external links.
3. Own a good website framework.
4. Write something like an editor, not only satisfy the requirment of search engine, but also the reading for customesr.

 

[Ali-v-8]

Wow! I didn't realise there was such variation in the pricing. My brother offers this service as a freelancer and he is way cheaper than the figures quoted because he feels he has to compete with all the other cheap companies on the Internet. I keep telling him he's underselling himself!

Personally I think SEO cannot and should not be done in isolation, but as part of an overall PR & Marketing strategy for best results. I've teamed up with my brother so that when I create a PR strategy, SEO can be part of that and the overall effect of many hits across a range of media should create the results clients are looking for.

When competing for business you should not look at other companies as you then undervalue your work.
Everyone is guilty of under quoting. I have done it when I first got into this business. The fact of the matter is that some companies will promise the earth and charge only 99p for results (I know I know *****y). Then when we as the next company contacted explain what we have to do and the cost involved they always tell me what the other company quoted.

Now me personally don't care for clients who compare costs.
I prefer clients who compare competence, reputation and results. Above all an seo company should be on page one of Google regardless.

 

Now me personally don't care for clients who compare costs.
I prefer clients who compare competence, reputation and results. Above all an seo company should be on page one of Google regardless.

You do mean the SEO company should get there clients site on page 1.?

Not the SEO company.

Earl

 

[Ali-v-8]

You do mean the SEO company should get there clients site on page 1.?

Not the SEO company.

Earl

I meant an seo company who is competent will have their website on page one or two for competitive phrases. Proof in the pudding so to speak.

I did mean when choosing an SEO company.

 

I meant an seo company who is competent will have their website on page one or two for competitive phrases. Proof in the pudding so to speak.

I did mean when choosing an SEO company.

Proof of the pudding is what they do for there clients.

The best SEO's would certainly not want to be on page 1 for SEO terms.

Just think of all the dross you would have to wade through to find your prince.

The only companies that go for page 1 are large organizations ,that will sell there granny for a buck.

References from clients and word of mouth is the way to go to find a good SEO.

Earl

 

[Ali-v-8]

Proof of the pudding is what they do for there clients.

The best SEO's would certainly not want to be on page 1 for SEO terms.

Just think of all the dross you would have to wade through to find your prince.

The only companies that go for page 1 are large organizations ,that will sell there granny for a buck.

References from clients and word of mouth is the way to go to find a good SEO.

Earl

I'll not sell my granny for a buck.

I wont take less than 5 bucks and a dime.

Remember i mentioned my favourite phrase is a 3 word one.
Nearly (and I mean nearly) every visitor coming to my site for that phrase converts to business.
It doesnt mention seo.

And yes I do get a lot of referral

 

[TomUK]

I don't get SirEarl, he thinks becuase a business his work gets a business to the top of google and the business subsequently makes alot of monye, he should get a cut?

I mean come on, thats ludicrous, thats like the engineers who work on lewis hamiltons car demanding a 20% cut of his earnings, or the guy who crafted tiger woods golf clubs demanding parts of his earnings, becuase "without them he wouldnt be able to play".

Maybe if you where the only guy in the world who could do it, sure, but the fact theres an SEO on every corner these days, I don't get sirearls "know your worth SEOs", and implying that they should take a cut of how much the business earns.

Or even worse, he makes out like theres nothing more to an online business then SEO, its stupid.

 

[Ali-v-8]

I don't get SirEarl, he thinks becuase a business his work gets a business to the top of google and the business subsequently makes alot of monye, he should get a cut?

I mean come on, thats ludicrous, thats like the engineers who work on lewis hamiltons car demanding a 20% cut of his earnings, or the guy who crafted tiger woods golf clubs demanding parts of his earnings, becuase "without them he wouldnt be able to play".

Maybe if you where the only guy in the world who could do it, sure, but the fact theres an SEO on every corner these days, I don't get sirearls "know your worth SEOs", and implying that they should take a cut of how much the business earns.

Or even worse, he makes out like theres nothing more to an online business then SEO, its stupid.

Tom, i think you miss understood him.

Seo can make or break a business.
And profit share or bonuses are now common.
If you had a business that doe 10k a year and you take on an seo who then increases your business to 100k a year, you really want to keep that guy happy. only the worst kind of business man wouldn't.
I have had a spate of non payers after results clearly show mass improvement. but i have the perfect solution.
Removing work quickly reminds them what they paid for.

 

[reggiemental]

or the guy who crafted tiger woods golf clubs demanding parts of his earnings, becuase "without them he wouldnt be able to play".

I think you'll find the guy who carries his bag, advises on shot selection, calms him down after a mistake, keeps him focussed etc., does very nicely when it comes to earnings. There's a lot more to the game than just hitting the ball. Same with SEO.

 

[TomUK]

You can't compare a caddie to an SEO...

Caddies are usually ex pro's, who know golf inside out...

Are SEO's ex businessman who know business inside out? No... they have expertise in one field...

The fact is theres thousands upon thousands of top SEO guys out there, you don't have to give away 10% of your profits to get good rankings... It's ludicrous, it implies there's nothing more to online businesses then SEO

 

[andymayhem]

Tom, can you define what you think SEO is? SEO to me and many of us isn't just about SERPs. It's about working out how best to sell the product the client is offering with the right keywords, the right design and many other things.

Note. People pay ebay 10% to sell their items.

 

[KidsBeeHappy]

The fact is theres thousands upon thousands of top SEO guys out there, you don't have to give away 10% of your profits to get good rankings... It's ludicrous, it implies there's nothing more to online businesses then SEO

Wrong, there are thousands upon thousands of SEO guys out there that THINK they're top. There are probably only a couple of hundred nationwide that truely know their business. And if they're prepared to put their money where their SEO skills are then that's a good way to sort the wheat from the chaff.

 

Wrong, there are thousands upon thousands of SEO guys out there that THINK they're top. There are probably only a couple of hundred nationwide that truely know their business.

make that about 40 world wide.

Earl

 

[TomUK]

Theres 40 worldwide, and 20 of them are on this forum right?

 

[KidsBeeHappy]

make that about 40 world wide.

Earl

Send us the list then

 

[Ali-v-8]

make that about 40 world wide.

Earl

Thank you earl.:redface:

Didnt realise you knew my worth lol

 

[Ali-v-8]

Send us the list then

Ali
Ali
Ali
Ali
Ali
ALi
ALLLLLLIIIIIII

oh earl , welshy boy

ALI
ALI
ALi
ha ha ha

 

[The Dreaded Lurgy]

The fact is theres thousands upon thousands of top SEO guys out there, you don't have to give away 10% of your profits to get good rankings... It's ludicrous, it implies there's nothing more to online businesses then SEO

There are lots of people who all charge in the way they think works best, earls profit share scheme means he will only make money if you make money this is an obvious motivation to go above and beyond the standard service and help you make as much profit as possible, the benefit is you will be both united and driven towards a common goal - cash.

The downsides are if you are amazingly successful he will present you with a big bill. Also if either of you fail you both fail nobody gets paid (and you would have to work very closely with each other so it could be quite intense).

You have not considered his proposition from his side, he could put yo at No.1 for every money phrase known to man and if you managed the business badly and went bankrupt all his work would earn him zero, its not about does he deserve 10% its just about different ways of structuring payments to manage different risks. Look past the conceit and ego, you might see a sensible option.

 

[Ali-v-8]

http://www.prweb.com/releases/topseos/competitionwinners/prweb1883254.htm

This is my claim to being one of the best SEO companies in the WORLD. (5th for 2008)

 

Theres 40 worldwide, and 20 of them are on this forum right?

No but 39 of them were taught by me.:|

Earl

 

[andymayhem]

http://www.prweb.com/releases/topseos/competitionwinners/prweb1883254.htm

This is my claim to being one of the best SEO companies in the WORLD. (5th for 2008)

Cost of entry $5000! How many sign up? 10?

 

[Ali-v-8]

Cost of entry $5000! How many sign up? 10?

got to be in it to win it

 

[andymayhem]

true, and I suppose you need to be good to be able to spare that kinda of cash on a game you might not win.

 

[Ali-v-8]

Just so that you know we weren't the only uk company to enter, although we were the only company in the top ten

seo-consult
just search
high positiom
smart traffic
bullseye media
big mouth media
greenlight
bluechilli
net secrets
advansys limited
GSINC ltd
Ikroh

Draw your own conclusion!!!!

 

[OldWelshGuy]

bruce is one of the biggest spammers in the world, and he won

 

[Ali-v-8]

bruce is one of the biggest spammers in the world, and he won

Probably true but his clients said he's kept hem happy.

 

[greenwood-IT]

Hiya,

I've always been confused by how the first page on Google only shows 10 results and I get 20 companies a month guaranteeing to get me onto the first page for a fee!

If I could afford it, I'd employ all of them at the same time and watch the ensuing arguments!

Chat soon.

 

There are lots of people who all charge in the way they think works best, earls profit share scheme means he will only make money if you make money this is an obvious motivation to go above and beyond the standard service and help you make as much profit as possible, the benefit is you will be both united and driven towards a common goal - cash.

The downsides are if you are amazingly successful he will present you with a big bill. Also if either of you fail you both fail nobody gets paid (and you would have to work very closely with each other so it could be quite intense).

You have not considered his proposition from his side, he could put yo at No.1 for every money phrase known to man and if you managed the business badly and went bankrupt all his work would earn him zero, its not about does he deserve 10% its just about different ways of structuring payments to manage different risks. Look past the conceit and ego, you might see a sensible option.

Damn I thought I had done a good job of disguising me conceit and ego.:|

I don't go into business with people who don't know what there doing in general,and if they are not fully up to speed I can soon put the right.

My model works on complete trust,and so far no one has let me down and everyone is happy paying me ,in fact the more I get paid the more they like it.

Whats this word "fail".?:|

Lingscars No3 for "car leasing" only 2 more scalps to take.

So where's the conceit.?


Earl

 

[The Dreaded Lurgy]

The conceit may lie in the rebuttal of a compliment due to it being percieved as insufficiant, but I suppose thats more hubris.

 

[KidsBeeHappy]

Just so that you know we weren't the only uk company to enter, although we were the only company in the top ten

seo-consult
just search
high positiom
smart traffic
bullseye media
big mouth media
greenlight
bluechilli
net secrets
advansys limited
GSINC ltd
Ikroh

Draw your own conclusion!!!!

Smart-traffic at no.4! What is this supposed to be measuring, the top spammy links companies.

No offense, Ali, but I wouldn't use any league with Smart Traffic in it as an indication of your worth, even if you are top.

 

Just so that you know we weren't the only uk company to enter, although we were the only company in the top ten

seo-consult
just search
high positiom
smart traffic
bullseye media
big mouth media
greenlight
bluechilli
net secrets
advansys limited
GSINC ltd
Ikroh

Draw your own conclusion!!!!

Blimey you gotta be a few tags short of an SEO to enter a competition where you ain't paid in hard cash.

All that free work blasphemy.

And don't tell me you do it for the advertising.

Any decent SEO has enough work for the next 100 years.



Earl