GOOGLE PR NUMBERS

Randomly looking at these and found one of my sites *That is never really used and is waiting to take traffic is ranked a 4

HOW?

4 by all accounts seems to be pretty good and i would like to know how on earth it got a 4, I expected 1.

oh yes, and how can I make it a 5?
:)

site is www.ukgolfforums.co.uk as you can see pretty much does nothing, I just want to know how the heck it is Page ranked as a 4 by google:eek:

We will shortly be sending traffic here so this forum will become used and improved, but i did a few searches and it appears in front of some national magazines forums for searches?!
 

-Neon-

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Seems to be a fair few unnatural links pointing to that domain.
Did you just recently purchase the domain? Might have been due to a negative seo campagin etc.
Might want to start disavowing those links to prevent the chances of a manual penalty.

Majestic show 4,670 ext backlinks pointing to the site, the majority of which seem to be coming from spammy blog comments. (Take a look at the anchor text on majestic)

I rarely pay much attention to PR these days, it's so very easy to manipulate (though these results are usually only temporary).
 
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I think you missed my angle

4 is a lot higher than i expected it to be, it ranking higher than national golf magazines!

Did not purchase from someone else, registered it around 15 months ago i think

PR of 4 is HIGH based no other sites that have far more content, users, pages I am just wondering how the heck it is a 4 and not a 2 or a 1.. as I would expect..

How do I check these back links you speak of? I am not a computer orientated person..

The market leading golf forums are on 4, I am on 4 and the site is not used.. SOMETHING IS RIGHT.. that is what I want to know what is it? as it is clearly punching above its weight
 
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-Neon-

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Apologies, I'll explain a bit more :)

Google PageRank is an algorithm which measures the importance of a site and its webpages by taking into account the links that are going to that site and its pages. Most links which do not feature the rel=nofollow attribute and are crawlable by googlebot pass PR. Your site has a PR of 4 due to the (PR passing) links which are pointing at it.

The thing is, a site which is not in use and has little content normally wouldn't have too many links pointing to it. Who would link to a site which isn't currently in use and doesn't have content on it? This is why I had a look at your backlink profile. Using Majestic SEO (apologies I can't post links yet, but a google search should bring it up) I saw that there were 4,670 ext backlinks pointing to your site. The majority of these pass PR (i.e they aren't nofollowed). The majority of these are in the form of low-quality blog comment links.

Normally I see these types of links when someone has purchased links from so-called 'SEO Experts' (or link building spammers as I like to call them) or when a site has been a victim of a negative SEO campaign (this is when someone builds low-quality links to your site in an attempt to get you penalised by Google and push you down the rankings).

The problem with these types of links is that Google will often view them as being an attempt to manipulate rankings. As per Google's quality guidelines:

"Any links intended to manipulate PageRank or a site's ranking in Google search results may be considered part of a link scheme and a violation of Google’s Webmaster Guidelines. This includes any behavior that manipulates links to your site or outgoing links from your site.

The following are examples of link schemes which can negatively impact a site's ranking in search results:

  • Buying or selling links that pass PageRank. This includes exchanging money for links, or posts that contain links; exchanging goods or services for links; or sending someone a “free” product in exchange for them writing about it and including a link"
If Google spots such activity (either through an algorithm or manually) they might issue a penalty on the site. In worst cases, these penalties can drop your site's PR to 0 and remove all the pages from the index. In order to revoke the penalty you would need to either get the links removed (or nofollowed) or disavow them and then submit a reconsideration request.

I wouldn't usually view a PR of 4 on a site that isn't used and has little content as a good thing, even if it's ranking above other popular sites. People don't usually link to such sites, which should set the alarm bells ringing.

Hopefully this helps explain a bit more as to why your site currently has a PR of 4 and why a high PR isn't always a good thing.
 
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Mystro

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Seems like this and a few others are helping you out with the PR http://botw.org.uk/Sports/Golf/ and its passing this do follow link to you PR 5

Agreed with the above you have 100s of forum and directory links

I see you as a PR-3 on my toolbar but hey, its no big deal 3 or 4

PM me your mail address and ill send the list of sites linking into you if you have no way of doing this yourself, but if you have a WMT account that will show you a large proportion
 
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Your site is not PR4. Just the page you are looking at is PR4.

You can get PR2 just with intenral linking.
 
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For an expert you never manage to offer much beyond criticism
I put the page in the checker it is PR4, your site is PR3 by the way.

Fisicx posting on my threads is pointless for you and me, you have not once offered anything remotely useful and seem to focus on how to criticise rather than how to assist, I do not need your input. Each time I see you posted on something I groan.. your site sucks your ranking sucks and your feedback sucks, YOUR job is meant to be a web design expert and consultant, that is pretty funny

When I find the block function I will block you.. change the record
 
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It depends what the national golf mags are doing. If they are linking out in a way that looks as if they are passing page rank then google may have lowered their PR like they did to 'Seo roundtable' when the owner was allowing people to advertise do follow links in the sidebar.

I don't think you should get caught up in pr to be honest.
 
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fisicx

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The PR score is as described by neon. It's simply a number allocated by google based on the linking to a page (not a site). It has no value at all. So you can aim to get pr5 but its a pointless target that can be changed by google at any time.

ps. How do know my ranking sucks? You don't know what keywords I'm targeting...
 
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Not delicate at all, but his responses never deviate and I am bored of them, I blocked him as nothing he offers is useful and he is a so called consultant.

I do not get into tit for tat nonsense it is a waste of energy, I block, much easier..
 
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2 posts on the subject of Toolbar PR in response to your question and you say I never deviate? An interesting observation but as you have blocked me you won't see this post anyway. To everybody else, PR doesn't matter, it's not even worth finding out what your site scores.
 
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fisicx

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Hang about, if you have blocked me how do you know I've posted three times?
 
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