Good gross profit for ecommerce/Amazon

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I've been selling online for many years. Between our own ecom site and Amazon. But with things getting harder (mainly due to Chinese sellers on Amazon) I was wondering what gross profit margin is good and what people are getting with ecom and Amazon. None of the products we sell are unique or made by us, basically just our brand put on imports like most of what you find on Amazon. I have read online that you need to be aiming for at least 45% gross profit. But we are no way near this, especially on Amazon as the competition grows all the time.
 

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The answer to this is going to vary massively from sector to sector.

A couple of businesses we have some involvement in are making around 40%GP, on general branding clothing. That is on their own ecommerce sites. I have no experience on Amazon, but suspect you would have to either charge more or accept a rather smaller GP.
 
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A good gross profit margin varies depending on the industry, platform, and business model. Generally, for e-commerce and Amazon sellers, a gross profit margin of 40-50% is considered strong, but this is becoming harder to achieve, especially with increased competition from Chinese manufacturers selling directly to consumers.

For Amazon sellers using private label products (like your brand on imported goods), margins tend to be lower due to high fees, advertising costs, and price competition. Many sellers in your position operate within the 20-35% gross margin range, with some going lower for high-volume sales. Direct-to-consumer (DTC) e-commerce sites often allow for higher margins, as you avoid Amazon’s fees, but marketing costs can eat into profits.

I am currently in Taiwan, where there are a lot of Amazon and eBay sellers sourcing goods. In the case of eBay, the manufacturers are approached by eBay itself, which then works through middlemen—independent eBay sellers—to purchase and sell the goods on eBay’s own website. This effectively offloads all the risk onto the eBay seller rather than eBay itself. I am quickly getting the impression that Amazon is following a similar practice. Many white-labellers here in Taiwan and over in Shenzhen seem to be under some level of Amazon control or influence, suggesting a shift in how these platforms operate.

If you are struggling to reach 45%, you are not alone. Many sellers face shrinking margins due to aggressive pricing strategies from manufacturers selling directly on Amazon. The key to improving profitability often lies in refining your product selection, optimising your supply chain, reducing reliance on deep discounting, and increasing average order value through bundles or upsells.
If your margins are being squeezed, there are several strategic approaches you can take to improve profitability and regain control over pricing, especially given how platforms like Amazon and eBay are shifting their approach.

Diversifying away from Amazon and eBay can be a long-term solution. Selling on your own e-commerce site often provides better margins, even though it requires investment in marketing and customer acquisition. Expanding to Shopify, WooCommerce, or other platforms allows you to control branding, customer relationships, and pricing. If you are already selling on your own site, focusing on SEO in particular if your products are niche.

Focusing on differentiation and adding value to your products can help set you apart. If you are selling white-label products, consider modifications, bundling complementary items, or offering premium packaging and support. Competing solely on price is difficult, but increasing perceived value can improve margins.

Leveraging higher-margin sales channels outside of Amazon and eBay, such as business-to-business sales, wholesale partnerships, or subscription models, could provide steadier revenue with better margins. Amazon fees, PPC costs, and price competition make sustaining high profits challenging, so exploring alternative sales models may be beneficial.

Streamlining sourcing and logistics is another key factor. Since you are in Taiwan, you have direct access to manufacturers and suppliers. There may be opportunities to negotiate better pricing, source exclusive products, or bypass middlemen. Some sellers are moving towards regional fulfilment or nearshoring to reduce dependence on suppliers already integrated into Amazon’s network.

Reducing dependence on PPC advertising can also protect your margins. If advertising costs on Amazon are eating into profits, alternative marketing strategies such as social media, email campaigns, and influencer partnerships could help reduce reliance on paid Amazon Ads.

Considering off-Amazon marketing for Amazon sales can be beneficial. Amazon rewards external traffic, so driving sales through external sources such as Facebook, Google Ads, or TikTok may lead to better rankings and conversion rates without engaging in direct price wars on Amazon.

Monitoring competitor activity and pricing trends is essential. If many white-labellers in Taiwan and Shenzhen are under Amazon’s influence, shifting focus to less saturated or higher-end niches where smaller businesses retain control may be a better long-term strategy. Tracking trends in direct-from-manufacturer selling on Amazon can help inform product selection and strategic adjustments.

If Amazon and eBay continue to tighten control over third-party sellers and white-label brands, the key question is whether to adapt to that environment or pivot toward sales channels where pricing and branding remain under your control. Hope that helps.
 
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what gross profit margin is good
Whatever is good for you and, in most cases, more than you have already!

Being reliant on other products and suppliers who compete with you is not a long term strategy, unless you keep finding the products where you are leading (higher prices & profit) not following (more competition, lower prices/margin).

Are you able to create your own brand? Can you create points of difference? Can you commit to depth/volume rather than width?
 
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    Re Amazon...

    It depends on what you are selling, the retail price of the product, and if you are using FBA or FBM...

    Low-priced items need a much bigger margin than high-priced. Remember, it is the money that is important and not the %. If you are selling something for £200, you might be happy with £20 profit per sale, but 10% on a £5 item is next to nothing and can easily disappear if you get something slightly wrong or if shipping costs go up for example.

    Also, FBA changes everything. For example, which scenario is better...?

    1 - you sell 100 units in a period and make £5 profit per unit. Your COGS is also £5 per unit, so your outlay is £500 and your profit is £500 = ROI of 100%

    2 - you sell 200 items and make £2.50 per unit. Your COGS is now £1000 and your profit is still £500, so your ROI is now 50%

    Which is best? In the real world, it is scenario 1. You make the same profit in both but there is less work to do in the first one. You need less space, fewer members of staff, less time spent with customers, etc.

    In the Amazon FBA world it is scenario 2. The profit is the same but you are selling more units (which means your competitors are selling less). You are getting more impressions, clicks, add to baskets, reviews and conversions, which teaches the algorithm you are more relevant, so you sell more. And you do all this without needing more staff, space, insurance, etc and you don't spend any more time on customers because Amazon does the heavy lifting.

    This is a concept most sellers don't understand. You can't lower your ROI indefinitely of course. Eventually it drops so low that you don't make any money lol. A good rule of thumb is to aim for 50% before PPC costs and a net 25%. So for every £10 you spend on inventory, you make £2.50 after all costs are taken into account (landed cost, Amazon fees, PPC, etc)

    Re sticking your brand on any old product, you are missing a trick...

    To grab market share you need to differentiate. Instead of just buying an off-the-shelf product, find out what people like and don't like about it, then improve it. When you create the listing, make sure all the improvements are highlighted and now you have a good chance. If it is just a 'me-too' product why would people buy it instead of the existing listings? And if the answer is price, then there are no winners.
     
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    To grab market share you need to differentiate. Instead of just buying an off-the-shelf product, find out what people like and don't like about it, then improve it. When you create the listing, make sure all the improvements are highlighted and now you have a good chance. If it is just a 'me-too' product why would people buy it instead of the existing listings? And if the answer is price, then there are no winners.
    Absolutely, but you need to add one thing...if you do follow this route, (which is spot on IMHO,) you also need to keep developing so that your collection doesn't stagnate.

    As sure as hell, people will start ripping your product off and under cutting you. We used to sell 10,000+ of one particular style in the US until the Chinese cottoned onto it. They developed an identical product, (even calling it the same title as ours,) and undercut us by a phenomenal amount to which we could simply not compete.
     
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    Having seen many get it wrong, I do worry that the term' gross margin' is widely misunderstood and commonly mixed up with mark up.

    It should be (Selling price-Cost price)/Selling price x 100%.

    The cost price used in this calculation is also a mystery to some. Selling UK sourced products its straightforward. Imported product is more complex. When I was importing chairs from China I used the landed cost, not the ex factory cost. The landed cost was individual to each chair as it depended on the volume each chair displaced in the container. Not so easy to do this for small items but very worthwhile to ensure there is a solid grasp of profitability.
     
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    Absolutely, but you need to add one thing...if you do follow this route, (which is spot on IMHO,) you also need to keep developing so that your collection doesn't stagnate.

    As sure as hell, people will start ripping your product off and under cutting you. We used to sell 10,000+ of one particular style in the US until the Chinese cottoned onto it. They developed an identical product, (even calling it the same title as ours,) and undercut us by a phenomenal amount to which we could simply not compete.
    Completely agree. There are strategies around this but yes, you need to continually improve and adapt to stay ahead of the game.

    And you need to keep launching new products or you will gradually die, which applies anywhere by the way.

    Would Apple be where they are now if they had just stuck with the i-pod? Of course not. Other companies have since launched similar things at a cheaper price and diluted the market. So Apple continually innovates, launching new products each year. And the cycle goes on forever.
     
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