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Ie if I have a problem with my hosting I can go to my registrar and change dns.
I think you're the first host I've seen recommend 1&1!I know 1and1 definetly allow you to change A, MX and CName records, you can see a screenshot here: http://faq.1and1.co.uk/image/domains/dnsSettings/mxChange.png and they are pretty damn cheap as well!
Just because a company also offers hosting, doesn't mean you need to use it. Register/transfer your domains with somebody and keep your hosting where it is, thus achieving what you want.Above recommendations seem to be linked to hosting , I am really after the registrar being completely separate. Ie if I have a problem with my hosting I can go to my registrar and change dns.
I think you are confusing domain registration with a DNS service.
Domain registration includes the information as to which are the name servers for that domain, not the actual A, MX etc records, which are served by those nameservers.
So I don't see a problem to use a host's DNS servers. If you want to change then you still have control by changing the nameservers with your registrar.
All I want to do is have my domains managed by one provider and host with a different provider - I will then choose either to point name servers at my host or use the registrar (for want of a better word) to point A records at my host and Mx at google (for example)
I want to separate the 2 as I have been caught out in the past where my website was down and so was my control panel, hence I couldn't change Dns for DR purposes.
For domain services some people say 123-reg are ok but given there link with fasthosts and 1&1 I am not so sure, hence my Q re domain registrar/dns provider
All I want to do is have my domains managed by one provider and host with a different provider - I will then choose either to point name servers at my host or use the registrar (for want of a better word) to point A records at my host and Mx at google (for example)
I want to separate the 2 as I have been caught out in the past where my website was down and so was my control panel, hence I couldn't change Dns for DR purposes.
For domain services some people say 123-reg are ok but given there link with fasthosts and 1&1 I am not so sure, hence my Q re domain registrar/dns provider
To help get clear what I think you want and at the risk of telling grandmothers how to suck eggs...:
The registrar is responsible for the domain eg renewal and managing the registration and the details for the registry. It is where you can set which DNS servers the domain will use.
The DNS service will then point to the services you want on the domain, eg tell what MX servers are to be used, which server is the www host etc.