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Apologies - I will try to keep this brief.
I am the MD of a medium sized venture (Limited Company) in the food service industry. We employ 12 members of staff. Recently I came into the business premises to find open warfare between staff members (particularly the manageress and one member of staff) with others extremely disturbed. I ascertained by interview there had been an instance of Gross Misconduct and Insubordination
Brief facts: Manager asked employee to do a task - employee ignores, manager responds with mild indignation and employee fires off a volley of f word insults. This tactic is then used to deflect attention from the employee to bring other members of staff into the situation (including one member of staff who was, at the time, suffering from extreme emotional tension after suffering a serious and sudden bereavement over the tragic death of her son).
My fellow director verified the facts by taking witness statements from 4 members of staff. A meeting was convened immediately and matters were discussed. The person was Summarily Dismissed failed to answer the accusation and marched out (having previously stated to staff he "was walking out") uttering the famous words "I'll see you at the Tribunal" ^
Further details: The person has been employed by THIS company for 7 months. However taking into account TUPE regulations his employment may be considered to be continuous for the region of 12-14 years (not exactly certain at this juncture, although the employee alleges nearly 40 years continual service (highly questionable since there were breaks in this timeframe, innumerable changes in the nature and companies (owned by one person) that employed him, and certainly one of the companies in this time was liquidated after going into receivership, I believe))
Subsequent to the Dismissal I have offered the individual the right to appeal (awaiting his decision) at a meeting which I would chair (as I was not party to the decision to Summarily Dismiss him - that being my fellow Directors' Decision) - offering him the right to bring a Witness. I have furnished him with the reasons and the supporting Witness Statements. I have received a Solicitor's Letter indicating his intention to seek an Employment Tribunal (no mention of Appeal which he obviously may (but shouldn't) reject.
I have indicated that, as far is possible, we have followed the ACAS Arbitration Model although you may wish to argue that he wasn't suspended. You might also want to know that (for the record) he had already been given a Verbal Warning (5 months ago, only 2 months into this new employment) for Insubordination and Poor Health and Hygiene management. Although not pertinent to this instance there is a historic catalogue of major and minor demeanours (including multiple Written and Verbal Warnings from his previous employer) and a series of verbal attacks on members of staff (for which he was warned), series of Hygiene and Health risk issues (warned) and much more beside (too numerous to mention)
So, I realise I have summarised as much as possible, I realise that nothing is perfect in the process but, threatening language (to his manager, other members of staff directly on the shop floor) and his recent refusal to work normally (late arrival, long absences) all point to a meticulously planned attempt to goad us into (a possibly inappropriate action). I fully intend to take this matter as far as necessary (ET if required), fully intend to defend our stance with further evidence and witness statements, all given freely by other members of staff) and protect the interests of the company and fellow employees.
For your information you should also note that we consider ourselves to be model employers. On hiring the staff we increased their pay (which was undercalculated), realigned their holiday pay (which was seriously mis-stated), provided absence leave for staff with problems, provided paid leave for the member of staff suffering from bereavement and more besides. I'm not sure how much more reasonable we might be but when you have one bad apple and open warfare between a member of staff who, on a daily basis, bullied (subtly - using whispered insults), failed in the execution of his duties (which he managed to do at a moderate level at best and sometimes worse), consistently undermined his manager on a daily basis and failed in his management of hygiene and health issues was there really any other option I (or my fellow director) could have taken*?
Thank you if you have read this far. All advise most welcome.
^ Most unlike this person, normally given to timorous and lacrymose reaction to criticism - on this occasion he was confident (to the point of a swagger).
* I have consulted Legal Advice, read and re-read ACAS and other advice sites to doubly check if there is anything I have missed.
I am the MD of a medium sized venture (Limited Company) in the food service industry. We employ 12 members of staff. Recently I came into the business premises to find open warfare between staff members (particularly the manageress and one member of staff) with others extremely disturbed. I ascertained by interview there had been an instance of Gross Misconduct and Insubordination
Brief facts: Manager asked employee to do a task - employee ignores, manager responds with mild indignation and employee fires off a volley of f word insults. This tactic is then used to deflect attention from the employee to bring other members of staff into the situation (including one member of staff who was, at the time, suffering from extreme emotional tension after suffering a serious and sudden bereavement over the tragic death of her son).
My fellow director verified the facts by taking witness statements from 4 members of staff. A meeting was convened immediately and matters were discussed. The person was Summarily Dismissed failed to answer the accusation and marched out (having previously stated to staff he "was walking out") uttering the famous words "I'll see you at the Tribunal" ^
Further details: The person has been employed by THIS company for 7 months. However taking into account TUPE regulations his employment may be considered to be continuous for the region of 12-14 years (not exactly certain at this juncture, although the employee alleges nearly 40 years continual service (highly questionable since there were breaks in this timeframe, innumerable changes in the nature and companies (owned by one person) that employed him, and certainly one of the companies in this time was liquidated after going into receivership, I believe))
Subsequent to the Dismissal I have offered the individual the right to appeal (awaiting his decision) at a meeting which I would chair (as I was not party to the decision to Summarily Dismiss him - that being my fellow Directors' Decision) - offering him the right to bring a Witness. I have furnished him with the reasons and the supporting Witness Statements. I have received a Solicitor's Letter indicating his intention to seek an Employment Tribunal (no mention of Appeal which he obviously may (but shouldn't) reject.
I have indicated that, as far is possible, we have followed the ACAS Arbitration Model although you may wish to argue that he wasn't suspended. You might also want to know that (for the record) he had already been given a Verbal Warning (5 months ago, only 2 months into this new employment) for Insubordination and Poor Health and Hygiene management. Although not pertinent to this instance there is a historic catalogue of major and minor demeanours (including multiple Written and Verbal Warnings from his previous employer) and a series of verbal attacks on members of staff (for which he was warned), series of Hygiene and Health risk issues (warned) and much more beside (too numerous to mention)
So, I realise I have summarised as much as possible, I realise that nothing is perfect in the process but, threatening language (to his manager, other members of staff directly on the shop floor) and his recent refusal to work normally (late arrival, long absences) all point to a meticulously planned attempt to goad us into (a possibly inappropriate action). I fully intend to take this matter as far as necessary (ET if required), fully intend to defend our stance with further evidence and witness statements, all given freely by other members of staff) and protect the interests of the company and fellow employees.
For your information you should also note that we consider ourselves to be model employers. On hiring the staff we increased their pay (which was undercalculated), realigned their holiday pay (which was seriously mis-stated), provided absence leave for staff with problems, provided paid leave for the member of staff suffering from bereavement and more besides. I'm not sure how much more reasonable we might be but when you have one bad apple and open warfare between a member of staff who, on a daily basis, bullied (subtly - using whispered insults), failed in the execution of his duties (which he managed to do at a moderate level at best and sometimes worse), consistently undermined his manager on a daily basis and failed in his management of hygiene and health issues was there really any other option I (or my fellow director) could have taken*?
Thank you if you have read this far. All advise most welcome.
^ Most unlike this person, normally given to timorous and lacrymose reaction to criticism - on this occasion he was confident (to the point of a swagger).
* I have consulted Legal Advice, read and re-read ACAS and other advice sites to doubly check if there is anything I have missed.
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