Choosing an ecommerce solution

antropy · Apr 28, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
As per the E-Commerce WordPress Also best for E-Commerce Store. Along with WooCommerce Plugin we able to setup the E-Commerce store on WordPress.

It 100% isn't! Alex

Alpha Helica Peptides · Apr 29, 2020

antropy said:
It 100% isn't! Alex

I hope it will clear all doubts https://wordpress.org/plugins/woocommerce/

fisicx · Apr 29, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
I hope it will clear all doubts https://wordpress.org/plugins/woocommerce/

It's clear you don't understand. Wordpress is NOT an ecommerce platform. Woocommerce is a plugin you can install to add ecommerce functionality to a wordpress site. It's not the best, in many ways it's a very bad option. I agree it's popular but just because something is popular doesn't mean it's any good.

antropy · Apr 29, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
I hope it will clear all doubts https://wordpress.org/plugins/woocommerce/

I know what WooCommerce is? But it definitely isn't the best option! As @fisicx states just because it is popular, doesn't mean it is the best option. Alex

Alpha Helica Peptides · Apr 30, 2020

fisicx said:
It's clear you don't understand. Wordpress is NOT an eCommerce platform. Woocommerce is a plugin you can install to add eCommerce functionality to a Wordpress site. It's not the best, in many ways, it's a very bad option. I agree it's popular but just because something is popular doesn't mean it's any good.

I can agree with you, but according to other e-commerce platforms we have many issues like website loading time, user-friendly. In the Prestashop, we are not able to find the free modules but in woo-commerce we are able to find some free WordPress plugins, that surely help us to extend the website features.

zigojacko · Apr 30, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
according to other e-commerce platforms we have many issues like website loading time, user-friendly.

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
in woo-commerce we are able to find some free WordPress plugins, that surely help us to extend the website features.

Free plugins to extend website features (too many or the wrong ones) is the number one reason for causing the very issues you specified.

Platforms in their default state 'out of the box' are hardly ever problematic for performance. It's when idiots that call themselves developers start plugging in to them left right and centre and don't know how to work with them that causes the issues.

So again, just because Wordpress/WooCommerce has lots of free plugins, doesn't make it the best ecommerce platform- and hardly any of the official WooCommerce plugins are free anyway.

There is nothing wrong with Prestashop if you know how to develop on the platform. As with any other modern CMS/ecommerce software. If you're needing a plugin to achieve everything in a website then you're not a developer.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

fisicx · Apr 30, 2020

zigojacko said:
Platforms in their default state 'out of the box' are hardly ever problematic for performance. It's when idiots that call themselves developers start plugging in to them left right and centre and don't know how to work with them that causes the issues.

And woocommerce has become one of those plugins. I won't go anywhere near it now, it's boated, clunky and the UX is no longer very good. In fact you have to do a lot of work to make it halfway decent.

antropy · Apr 30, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
in woo-commerce we are able to find some free WordPress plugins

Free doesn't mean they are very good, it usually means quite the opposite! Alex

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 4, 2020

zigojacko said:
Free plugins to extend website features (too many or the wrong ones) is the number one reason for causing the very issues you specified.

Platforms in their default state 'out of the box' are hardly ever problematic for performance. It's when idiots that call themselves developers start plugging in to them left right and centre and don't know how to work with them that causes the issues.

So again, just because Wordpress/WooCommerce has lots of free plugins, doesn't make it the best ecommerce platform- and hardly any of the official WooCommerce plugins are free anyway.

There is nothing wrong with Prestashop if you know how to develop on the platform. As with any other modern CMS/ecommerce software. If you're needing a plugin to achieve everything in a website then you're not a developer.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

This is good, you know about some things about the Wordpress, but what about informative websites, cost to develop the website on Prestashop.

One thing is that Google is not able to crawl the pages easily in Prestashop, Most of the pages have crawl anomaly issue. There are a lot of issues visible in the Prestashop if you check in your webmaster.

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 4, 2020

antropy said:
Free doesn't mean they are very good, it usually means quite the opposite! Alex

Woocommerce is good for small e-commerce stores, which have only some products like 10 - 20, not in thousands, It works well than Prestashop.

As you mentioned there are free plugins available but not worthy. In the comparison of Prestashop, this is good we able to find some free plugins, in the Prestashop, all modules are paid.

fisicx · May 4, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
There are a lot of issues visible in the Prestashop if you check in your webmaster.

That's a site configuration issue not a problem with Prestashop

Wordpress/woocommerce has far more problems than a dedicated ecommerce platform.

antropy · May 4, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
Woocommerce is good for small e-commerce stores, which have only some products like 10 - 20, not in thousands, It works well than Prestashop.

You do know there are more than 2 platforms... Alex

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 5, 2020

antropy said:
You do know there are more than 2 platforms... Alex

Yes, each have their features. Some e-commerce platforms Magento, Shopify etc.

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 5, 2020

fisicx said:
That's a site configuration issue not a problem with Prestashop

Wordpress/woocommerce has far more problems than a dedicated ecommerce platform.

I have a website in Woocommerce, working fine. It just your thoughts. Each platform has their features and functionality and it mainly depend on requirements.

fisicx · May 5, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
I have a website in Woocommerce, working fine. It just your thoughts. Each platform has their features and functionality and it mainly depend on requirements.

The site in your profile is not woocommerce.

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 6, 2020

fisicx said:
The site in your profile is not woocommerce.

That was in woocommerce.

fisicx · May 6, 2020

Alpha Helica Peptides said:
That was in woocommerce.

Not anymore. It's a prestashop theme.

Alpha Helica Peptides · May 7, 2020

fisicx said:
Not anymore. It's a prestashop theme.

That was in woocommerce - redesign in Prestashop now.

Limited100 · May 10, 2020

OP, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on Shopify Plus vs Shopify. What extra features does it include? Can you have a fully bespoke theme built by Shopify or a specialist agency from the ground up? What are typical costs? Thanks

commadus · May 13, 2020

My requirements are really simple - I won't expect to have many products perhaps 5 to 10 and a few variations in size and colour in each product.

I am torn between Squarespace and Shopify. I will be a sole trader so not setting up a LTD company.

Which one of these handles processing an order better? Ie prints out the order onto labels and the invoice.

fisicx · May 13, 2020

commadus said:
Which one of these handles processing an order better? Ie prints out the order onto labels and the invoice.

Neither, you need to pay for extensions if you want labels

commadus · May 14, 2020

Has anyone tried squarespace with ecwid as the best of both worlds solution?

Use the nice templates of Squarespace with the backend ecommerce system of Ecwid?

I see many shops using shopify and it must be a market leader?

fisicx · May 14, 2020

@commadus - the layout of any site can be replicated. There is nothing unique about a template.

Choose the e-commerce platform that best suits your business model. Worry about the template later. Nobody will care which one you use.

antropy · May 14, 2020

commadus said:
Use the nice templates of Squarespace with the backend ecommerce system of Ecwid?

I would choose Shopify over Squarespace. For ecommerce needs Shopify is a lot better. Squarespace is good as a holding type website but is pretty limited. Alex

Nick Walsh Studios · May 26, 2020

Yes Shopify is great I used to have a shop called sport angel, but other business interests came along and I did not have time to market the site.

ukbf0001 · Jul 20, 2020

I could have sworn I gave a reply to this thread yesterday ? basically there are cheaper and better options to shopify that are free, and fit in facebook. There is now a zero entry to market when it comes to getting online / selling and selling to highly relevant customers in facebook.

Guy Incognito · Jul 22, 2020

Limited100 said:
OP, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on Shopify Plus vs Shopify. What extra features does it include? Can you have a fully bespoke theme built by Shopify or a specialist agency from the ground up? What are typical costs? Thanks

Shopify Plus offers the opportunity to clone your store (useful if going into different markets).
It has Flow, which can automate a lot of things. We've found that to be very useful.
Launchpad is good for new collections / sales etc
You can also customise the checkout, which we're doing A/B testing on.

Cost is more ($2200 / month I think)

There are agencies that specialise in Shopify Plus stores. We chose one but were disappointed and are moving to a different one (We Make Websites).

They say you need to be turning over £1m a year to make it worth the while but I would say you could see the benefits at a lower level.

ukbf0001 · Jul 22, 2020

Lol $2,200 a month - I'll buy it twice that's such good value, especially as it means I clone my store - that's worth the price on it's own

wayzgoose · Jul 31, 2020

bluenun said:
Lol $2,200 a month - I'll buy it twice that's such good value, especially as it means I clone my store - that's worth the price on it's own

Bl**dy hell! I thought you were joking about $2,000 and month !

Nick Walsh Studios · Sep 2, 2020

commadus: https://apps.shopify.com/ordersify-...=3&surface_intra_position=2&surface_type=home

prints out the order onto labels and the invoice.

SJonesey · Sep 10, 2020

Sports Trophy Co said:
I would definitely put time towards trialling and testing all the options as you generally find that your unique selling point is the hardest to establish. You don't find out about scale limits until your are in full development along with new users, new departments and new stores.

I agree. Some people have the idea that the only way to get what you want is to pay for a custom solution. However, a lot of companies have seen the move towards custom designs and integrated more features into their own programs.

In some of the pre-built solutions, you can find options that you will never need alongside everything you ever will need. The only way to find out what suits you is to try them.

OnePatch · Sep 28, 2020

Nice post @Faevilangel. I have learn many things regarding ecommerce solution and also very much helpful for small business owner for better understanding about ecommerce solution and its utility. Expecting quality post in future and learn so many factors.

antropy · Sep 28, 2020

OnePatch said:
I have learn many things regarding ecommerce solution

Only the 6 years worth of posts! Alex

Underline Digital · Oct 17, 2020

Although we have extensively worked with Shopify customisation, we always prefer WooCommerce and Magento. The open source nature allows the developer more creative and functionality control.

A developer should always be the one advising the online store owner of the preferred solution.

MichelleB-UK · Nov 24, 2020

All great advice! We started with little knowledge so built our store on a platform to make things easier to launch our business but the long-term plan is to build from scratch to give us more flexibility in terms of design and layout going forward.

murphycobb · Dec 10, 2020

You are Just a startup eCommerce Business. Then you are choosing a Shopify. And We advise on digital production strategy including content management frameworks and e-commerce. And RFP and vendor selection management.

japhyryder · Dec 18, 2020

murphycobb said:
You are Just a startup eCommerce Business. Then you are choosing a Shopify. And We advise on digital production strategy including content management frameworks and e-commerce. And RFP and vendor selection management.

Excellent choice

Laravel · Dec 23, 2020

Choosing the right e-commerce solution is half the job done in starting the e-commerce business as you will be running the business with an e-commerce platform/solution. If you are planning a multi-vendor marketplace then choose a multi-vendor shopping cart software that suits your business needs. Look at the features and integrations if it fulfills the needs of your business

Paul Norman · Dec 30, 2020

This thread is of actual history value it is so old.

InternetMarketingPlatinum · Dec 30, 2020

Woocommerce all the way, due to an extensive library of plugins, customisation options, ability to move to whichever server you need to.

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