CERCO IT Staffing Solutions (Crewe)

Watch out for these muppets everyone. They advertise free IT courses and claim huge salaries can be earned, yet the reality is much different. Also, if they take you on as an IT person (they have contracts with the likes of Fujitsu), they pay you peanuts and well BELOW the average IT salary. A lot of us guys did their training several months ago, and we get less than £250 per week. Also Cerco IT Staffing don't give a damn about you... if you complain you're out of the door, no questions, and they take on another batch of suckers! Never again and I'm amazed that a so called good company like Fujitsu would be associated with them. Keep away from Cerco IT Solutions at all costs please.
 
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Watch out for these muppets everyone. They advertise free IT courses and claim huge salaries can be earned, yet the reality is much different. Also, if they take you on as an IT person (they have contracts with the likes of Fujitsu), they pay you peanuts and well BELOW the average IT salary. A lot of us guys did their training several months ago, and we get less than £250 per week. Also Cerco IT Staffing don't give a damn about you... if you complain you're out of the door, no questions, and they take on another batch of suckers! Never again and I'm amazed that a so called good company like Fujitsu would be associated with them. Keep away from Cerco IT Solutions at all costs please.
So they trained you up for a career, free of charge, then offered you a job at the end of it which you accepted??

How very dare they! :rolleyes:
 
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Not quite. They gave us one weeks basic training on IT hardware - yes - one week - with no, repeat no, formal certification or acknowledgement, and yes, they did get us a job with Fujitsu but ONLY because they had signed a contract with said company to provide "qualified and experienced IT personnel". When we got on site, the guy supervising us said he was astonished we had received so little training for such a large and important client. Even HE thought Cerco were a bunch of cowboys. Some of us made mistakes that cost Fujitsu a lot of money and time to rectify - because we hadn't received the appropriate length of training etc. We just felt so let down that in this time of high unemployment a bunch of muppets like Cerco are exploiting us and they just don't give a damn.
 
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Not quite. They gave us one weeks basic training on IT hardware - yes - one week - with no, repeat no, formal certification or acknowledgement, and yes, they did get us a job with Fujitsu but ONLY because they had signed a contract with said company to provide "qualified and experienced IT personnel". When we got on site, the guy supervising us said he was astonished we had received so little training for such a large and important client. Even HE thought Cerco were a bunch of cowboys. Some of us made mistakes that cost Fujitsu a lot of money and time to rectify - because we hadn't received the appropriate length of training etc. We just felt so let down that in this time of high unemployment a bunch of muppets like Cerco are exploiting us and they just don't give a damn.
It sounds like it's approx the minimum wage?

How old are you? Did you have any IT experience or qualifications before takign the job/course?

Were you employed by Fujitsu or Cerco?

I'm assuming from the attitude towards them you were sacked? What happened?

Steve
 
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Most of the guys were middle aged - like me. Eager to get back into employment and a so called new start career wise. Cerco certainly put on a good show when it comes to promoting themselves. However when we were put onto site for the client, we were expected to perform task way, way beyond our competance and experience. This is where it all went wrong. When the guys tried to raise this matter with Cerco IT, they just told us that if we didn't like it - walk! Some did. I stuck it out for a few more weeks, but honestly, we were all working 10 - 12 hour days for a fixed rate. At one stage I calculated to be working LESS than the minimum wage while Cerco get a huge fat cheque from their client Fujitsu. Cerco don't care about staff, they just exploit the market and get more suckers and fools (of which I am one). Now I'm unemployed again and simply want to make sure anyone knows about these cowboys. If you search Google for "Cerco IT Staffing Solutions" you'll see loads of criticism and even the advertising standards agency has had a spat with them.
 
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standard MCSE / A+ scam thats been around for years.

promise of a job at the end of the course bla bla.

even the company sounds like SERCO ( which does everything including training and is a proper company )

CERCO is just doing what a lot of other flash in the pan training companies do - usually target people like ex armed forces that have been paid a retraining fee.

disgusting way to play with peoples lives
 
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I have been looking for information on CERCO all day until I ran into this post. Which was the most recent one, I have also posted on other sites to see if this was legit.

I have passed my interview and are on the training course. After I looked on the internet, i was having second thoughts. Since they were old posts from 2005. I didnt have the most recent information.

After reading this post, I guess im not gettin involved. Also recieved loooaaadss of forms to fill in which I havent started yet.
 
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To tell you the truth I am NOT surprised with Fujitsu I used to work for them when I left school all be it on a call centre helpdesk for McDonalds pos & back office issues and the some of the muppets we had working for us claiming they had MCSE'S and that and you could see it was an online fake exam or some scam and if you actually called M$ you will find that there certificate was not real they did not last long.

I also worked for serco for the council IT contracts and this was a proper IT company checked on my certs and even took me though 2 exams before I was released on the helpdesk.

But you do need to remember that call centres do have a high staff turn around.
 
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Hi,

Iv been working in the IT industry for about three months but due to the company i work for deciding to outsource their IT department im due to be made redundant. Im currently working my notice period and so have decided to take a couple of weeks holiday to do the course with Cerco starting on Monday. Having read all the posts on here im starting to get abit worried about attending the course as im now not sure whether its going to be a waste of time or not. With the small amount of experience iv gained already working in IT i thought it may have been a good idea to do the course anyway and then i get some further hands on experience, especially as the course is free (im only going to pay for accomodation) and then i might get a job at the end of it which will see me over until i can find somthing better.

I was told at the interview that there arent any further costs attached but im now starting to thing that theres going to be a catch somewhere.... Any advice from people that have already done the course would be great cos im starting to worry abit now. Do i have to stay with Cerco after iv done the course as iv also been told i can leave at any time after iv completed it?
 
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dont touch these smarmy, slimy leeches with a 20 foot pole. having been snagged by the cerco net in 2009 and been promised unlimited oportunities for work after completing a 3 week course, which was a blatant blag to start with. for starters you will get an untold of ammount of phone calls from a very pretty and flirty girl who will talk you into accepting their terms and handing over a couple of grand in cash. you will then be given a cursory 3 week course during which they will do everything, including in some cases actually give you the answers to their exams, to get you to pass and into their system of employment. this wjere they really start making money from you. they will tell you you will be earning 35 grand a year after a month or 2. i was given a 4 week job with IKON who had contracts to update the EPOS systems for carphone warehouse. this was nothing short of farcical. for starters you were paid a daily rate which when you broke the work down actusally ended up being about £2.50 an hour. they will also tell you they will ay for petrol. evev though travelling alll over the north west for my work i was given about £3.50 a day petrol allowance. i actually worked out that by the end of my contract, after my deductions for petrol, dinners etc, i had earned around £70 for a whole weeks work. DO NOT TOUCH THIS COMPANY WITH A 10 FOOT BARGE POLE. once you fill in that pplication they WILL NOT STOP calling you until you accept them. also i had a friend conduct a business report on their finacial status. apparently they own about £95 total assets and change the name of their comapny on a routine basis every couple of years, presumably to avoid civil lawsuits.
 
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Hi this is not looking good,
I've just been invited for the interview on Tuesday. Its now Saturday and i'm thinking of not going after reading some of the comments.
Is it just better to go to your local college for courses and exams, then go out and find your own experience to get in to the industry. Or go to Cerco pay over the odds for accommodation and books. Then let them place you for 6 months before I go it alone. and just use them as a stepping stone.
As I'm just about to be made redundant and the college may only be £600 compared to Cerco's £4000 but being out of work will cost me so much more.
Then there is the time factor as spending a year getting trained by a college compared to a company that will take a month.

Confused. If I go it alone please advise what courses should I be looking at ?
 
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I have been through the CERCO nightmare.

Their entire business model is a SCAM.

You will NEVER earn the wage they promise you.

You will not find full time work through CERCO.

I have reported them to reed and other sites due to the severity of their bull**** and reed have now banned their account.

The best you will get from CERCO is £65/day and 15pence per mile.

They dont give a damn about the engineers, they are there to rip you off for a few weeks then you wise up to the scam and quit but they dont care because they allready ahve the next class of suckers lined up.


Total scam. Seriously, avoid them. I wish I had.

If you want more infomation or to contact me feel free to email me.
 
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If I may introduce myself. My name is Chris Barlow and I am a Director at Cerco. Some of you who have posted on here may have met me previously at your evaluation. In the interest of fairness and democracy I have felt compelled to respond to some of the comments levied at our company on this forum. We used to sell our training courses for £3999 up until late 2010 however since then have given this training away for free to any candidate who attends an evaluation and is deemed suitable. If I may, please allow me to explain why we did this. From 1989 to 2003 Cerco exististed purely as a Training Company selling courses to members of the public who wanted to "break into" the IT Industry. Successful graduates were then supplied to various recruitment agencies to assist in finding the IT job. Some candidates were very successfull some not so, Cerco had very little control over the outcome. In 2003 our current owner purchased the business and he quickly identified that we should have control over finding paying candidates suitable employment therefore he employed myself to set up Cerco IT Staffing Solutions. Our remit was to take responsibility for placing the graduates as opposed to handing them over to recruitment agencies. I personally feel in the main we did an exceptional job with this however fully understand there may be ex-candidates out there who in their experience we didn't. One of the difficulties we came across was managing candidates expectations - there are certain parts of the UK that don't have as much opportunity to work in IT, jobs are more scarce. Every paying customer should have been informed as to the suitability of their personal geographical location either on initial contact or assessment. As an Agency we couldn't and can't create the jobs, we can only fill them with suitable candidates when they arise. In 2010 we made the monumental decision to stop selling our training courses. This was because Cerco candidates were becoming increasingly more popular due to their positive attitude and desire to succeed, however where the jobs were wasn't necesserily where our candidates lived. This came to a head when a customer requested 25 candidates for a specific 6 month contract in the South West of England and we were only able to supply them with 6 people. In essence we had to give 19 vacancies away to our competition, that hurts ..... A decision was taken at Board level that all of our training would be given away from that point and we would in essence become purely a recruitment agency that happens to train suitable candidates as opposed to a training company that happens to help candidates find work. Where we differ to every other agency is that by training our own candidates the need for previous IT experience is eradicated.

With the above in mind and in response to recent comments:

1) How can what we offer be a Scam? We don't sell or make money from training therefore the only way we can exist as a business is by filling vacancies with candidates we have found and brought up to speed. If you don't work we don't make money either. At no stage has anyone whose completed our training and not been given work been asked to pay for the training. Furthermore at evaluation we stress there are no guarentees that we will successfully place anyone.

2) We never make promises about wages or guarentees, as a recruitment agency we exist purely to supply our customers with resource when they need it. This need can be withdrawn at short notice. The worst case scenario for a candidate is that they have what was a £3999 training course free of charge and still get little or no work in IT after it. The worst case scenario for us is that in that scenario we've invested time and money creating that candidate with no reward.

3) In relation to whether you will find full time through Cerco this is down to our customers and their needs. We have several candidates at present working full 40 hour weeks with a certain customer with a view to becoming permanent members of staff in 13 weeks time. We also have a large number of candidates that have and are working on long term flexible temporary contracts. There are also people waiting for their first role. As mentioned in 2) above , we can't guarentee anything but we can't be bad at finding candidates work as we are still trading.

4)Reed haven't banned our account but are providing us with advice as to how to be clearer on our advertising. When we have specific roles we should stipulate it, when we are looking at increasing our pool of candidates via training but with no specific role in mind we should stipulate it. We have made the mistake of advertising both on the same advert which has been ambiguous.

5) The best you will get from us isn't necesserily £65 per day and 15p mileage. Others have and do get more, it purely depends on the role, hours, technicality of work, experience etc. The average salary I would say is certainly likely to be £60-£65 per day for an 8 hour working day which equates to £15600- £16900 pro rata. This is a fair salary for somebody with little or no previous IT experience.

6)We certainly DO care about our engineers because it costs so much to create them. We are not a charity we are a business and being a business means that it would not be cost effective to keep throwing away your product because it's easy to create another. In our case it's not easy to create another and I strongly object to any of our candidates being called "suckers". We pride ourselves on supplying our customers with candidates that pride themselves on a positive work ethic and are technically trained to be able to provide the service. The vast majority of our candidates are grateful for the opportunity that has been given them and repay that faith by enhancing the reputation we have built of supplying the industry at entry level with quality, focused resource. Candidates that perpetually complain may be removed but all candidates are informed on completion of the training that if they have any issues they can contact myself or the Operations Manager. If we are giving away a free training course and breaking people into IT who have given up hope we have every right to protect ourselves by removing potential trouble makers or candidates displaying negativity.

7) I too am more than happy to respond to any request for further information or invite you along to meet us personally .

I hope that by the length of this anybody reading it can see we take our business and reputation very seriously. I won't be posting anymore responses on this forum unless I see something that I feel is a personal attack, however if anybody would like to contact me personally please feel free

Thank you very much for reading my comments
Chris
 
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    I have been looking for information on CERCO all day until I ran into this post. Which was the most recent one, I have also posted on other sites to see if this was legit.

    I have passed my interview and are on the training course. After I looked on the internet, i was having second thoughts. Since they were old posts from 2005. I didnt have the most recent information.

    After reading this post, I guess im not gettin involved. Also recieved loooaaadss of forms to fill in which I havent started yet.

    Want to get into I.T?

    Here is the dirty little secret.... That they dont tell you at school or college.

    Dont waste 2 or 3 years studying..
    Go get a Cisco CCNA or a MCSE book, Read it. Do practice exams online and pass. ( few hundred quid tops. )

    Walk into a 20k+ job and then earn a LOT more once you have experience..
    Experience in I.T is the main thing.
     
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    Not to come across as a paranoid suspicious type of person, but did anyone else think that it it more than just pure coincidence that all the users who posted info about CerCo It Solutions, had more than a few things in common?

    All had a user name that ended in a some numbers?
    All have only made 1 post?

    Cerco's marketing and profiling of their target market of recruits seems to be pretty spot on! Despite all their other downfalls they appear to be a pretty nifty outfit, to not only land a good client as Fujitsu, but also target and recruit their "ideal" staff!
     
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    Not to come across as a paranoid suspicious type of person, but did anyone else think that it it more than just pure coincidence that all the users who posted info about CerCo It Solutions, had more than a few things in common?

    All had a user name that ended in a some numbers?
    All have only made 1 post?

    Cerco's marketing and profiling of their target market of recruits seems to be pretty spot on! Despite all their other downfalls they appear to be a pretty nifty outfit, to not only land a good client as Fujitsu, but also target and recruit their "ideal" staff!


    It can be traced easy enough with just checking the IP address he used to set the accounts up with, I felt as he got the sack because he was crap and had a hump with the company and faked all the other accounts to slam then, if he could not see that we can see there fake accounts and he was probably using the same ip address then IT is not for you.
     
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    Sorry are you discussing my post?

    Trying to say i'm faking other accounts?

    Total crap, go right ahead check my IP.


    The reason people make these accounts to post is because how hacked off they are with Cerco ripping them off and not providing the job that they applied for, trained for and were promised.

    The thing Cerco get right is the marketing. Their sales team is very slick and professional, people signup in good faith and then are let down with a "dont call us we'll call you".

    The bottom line is: Of the 5 people I remained in contact with on my 2 week Cerco course, NONE OF US HAVE FOUND WORK THROUGH CERCO.

    And yet they still spam advertise for new recruits. Why? Because their turnover rate is insanely high because their business model is a SCAM.

    You will not find fulltime work through Cerco.
     
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    I spent 2 weeks on their course and did 2 days work for them total, despite having been accepted on a "major contract". Hardly a major boost to my CV...


    Also my new employer questioned their qualification and said that it was not industry recognised, this caused a difficult moment at the interview.

    However it was the strength of my interview and previous experience that got me the job.

    Overall i'm down a few hundred pounds and 2 weeks wasted time.

    If you're looking for a minimum wage IT job and have no skills or previous experience they might be worth the hassle, but if you have any qualifications or experience just do a few Microsoft/industry recognised qualifications and work on your interview technique.
     
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    I have recently found an add for Cerco and have had the Basic application through via email. The instruction then advises to opt for interview date and initial test.

    I was half way through filling it all in then decided to do a search on reviews......... Ahhhh I think I will give this a miss now. I was made redundant in July, am looking for new opportunities, have lots of experience working on routers/firewalls/PCs and servers but no qualifications in IT (emphasis on qualifications in IT, plenty in other areas).

    Although I would say im up-beat and willing to give anything a try, im not about to take financial risks when I have limited funds and the ability to gain a lower income reverting back to skills I learnt/used some years ago. Then use books and labs to self teach.

    If Chris Barlow - National Careers Director is following this thread and others ive seen on google searches, I would like to advise this sort of feedback/thread is going to damage your business. I have never seen such derogatory statements about and recruitment agency before.

    Please be aware I have no experience of Cerco and cannot comment on its policies or practices, but as a potential "sucker" I have been very much put off. I will not be searching for further information on the company as the searches so far have brought up only outdated limited information a little positive but mainly negative. Shame as the idea is a sound one. ahh well on with the job search and fingers crossed for my interviews
     
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    Chanced on this thread purely by accident, and feel I must respond to some of the very negative comments directed at Cerco.
    I was made redundant early 2010, made my way on my own for 12 months, and then signed with Cerco.
    Here's what happened, it's very simple. I was given training for 2 weeks, the staff at their HQ in Crewe were always friendly and courteous, the gentlemen delivering the training were excellent and very competent and I saw no evidence of Gordon Geckoesque salespeople.

    Bearing in mind my knowledge of IT was next to nothing, apart from a brief spat with ZX Spectrums back in the day, unsurprisingly I found I now knew more, who'd have guessed? Within a couple of weeks I was packed off to Fujitsu in Birmingham somewhere and given further training by the people there....all this had cost me nothing so far incidentally.....And I was placed on a contract upgrading systems in Specsavers shops up and down the country, initially I was placed with engineers who were fully conversant with the shops systems and eventually in a short space of time I learnt the job sufficiently well to begin mentoring other new engineers. It was certainly more money on a daily basis than the minimum wage; I'm not suggesting for one moment that I was going between jobs in an Aston Martin, however it was significantly more than the £70 a week I could have claimed on jobseekers allowance.
    So problems, none, at any time with Cerco, honestly they were great, always accomadated my complex family situation and I genuinely liked the people that worked there .....Note I am aware they are an agency. Having worked in an agency many years ago, I am completely aware how they generate profit..If you have a problem with their or any other agencies methodology, don't sign on with agencies, it's really that simple, though most agencies don't give you two weeks free training.

    Problems began when I and other engineers began a temp to perm contract with Fujitsu as IT engineers, I hasten to add that the problems were not with Cerco, but with the global supercompany itself. Financially I was better off on the temp portion of the contract when I was still employed by Cerco, receiving overtime payments and having access to a realistic easy to claim expenses model.
    However when we were eventually taken on by Fujitsu (FJ), after many months of needless mucking about on their behalf, it was discovered by myself and the other engineers that the contracts we were expected to sign were restrictive in the extreme, tied us to unreasonably long working days with zero overtime (until we'd completed our annual hours agreement, overtime was then payed at flat rate), weekends, bank holidays, xmas, new year were all payed at flat rate, we could be asked to work nights or other unsociable hours at a moments notice, for guess what? flat rate.

    Amidst all the pointless whining on the several hundred emails that went between the equally whining individuals sending them, calling for industrial action and work to rule nonsense, FJ's attitude being pretty appalling to it's new staff, existing long term engineers attitude being equally appalling to us as well, threats of violence on their behalf ending in a fairly ridiculous swearfest on two occasions...good eh?
    Amongst this less than happy working environment I became increasingly ill, and eventually walked away from the job one sunny November morning, my sanity restored for a little while at least.

    I would finally like at this point, to thank those whining people for dragging mine and an equally silent colleagues name into your email debates, for which incidently, we were marked as co-conspirators adding additional pressure to an already unhappy situation ....and would like to make it very clear, that logically and very obviously the fault lay with FJ, who undermined the professionalism of some very talented individuals and reduced their value to less than that of factory labourers...no disrespect, I've done that job and it was better paid and more appreciated than the work I carried out for FJ.

    I think I recognise a couple of names on here, the style of writing reflects the emails that flitted around....I hope you've found alternative employment now, I suspect you won't be happy there either, no pleasing some people I guess

    warmest regards
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    Back at Uni studing History and Lit if it's all the same to you
     
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