• Income tax - Frozen for three more years
  • Business rates - updated to reflect increase in property prices + retail, hospitality & leisure longer term support
  • National minimum wage - increases at all levels
  • Fuel duty - frozen until September 2026
  • Plastic packaging - tax rate increase
  • Household energy bills - cuts
  • Electric vehicles - new tax per mile
  • Savings and dividends - tax increase
  • Sugar tax - scope increased
Have I missed anything else relevant?
 
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    Add to that:
    New or higher taxes on:
    • Dividends & investment income
    • Private landlords
    • High-value properties (“mansion tax”)
      These mainly hit wealthier households or those with multiple income streams.
    Pension salary sacrifice perk caped
    From 2029, only £2,000/year of pension salary-sacrifice contributions are exempt from extra National Insurance.
     
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    End of the child benefit cap.

    First budget I've listened to in a while, and it was embarrassing. At some points you could barely hear the chancellor because of the noise.
    I just downloaded the OBR report which was "accidentally" sent out with all the details before she even got up to speak.

    Re a lot of their proposals I have a feeling they will not be in power long enough to come to pass. Its going to be interesting to see how the market responds tomorrow I cant quite gauge their reaction at the moment although Vanguard has claimed it will be buying more gilts as the budget apparently has calmed some of their nerves .......but give it 24 hours and that could all change.
     
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    I just downloaded the OBR report which was "accidentally" sent out with all the details before she even got up to speak.

    Re a lot of their proposals I have a feeling they will not be in power long enough to come to pass. Its going to be interesting to see how the market responds tomorrow I cant quite gauge their reaction at the moment although Vanguard has claimed it will be buying more gilts as the budget apparently has calmed some of their nerves .......but give it 24 hours and that could all change.
    "a lot of their proposals I have a feeling they will not be in power long enough to come to pass."

    we can but hope
     
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    Agreed, I believe (and sincerely hope) they're not around long enough to see some of this through. I honestly don't think I've ever known a government manage to so spectacularly alienate so many different sectors of the population. And what baffles me is how out of touch they seem to be with the opinions of the British people....rightly or wrongly, people are at best disappointed and at worst angry at what they see happening around them, and it's like the government have blinkers on to it all.

    I have been trying to find the right words to express this succinctly (and some cleverer than me on here will, I'm sure) but I was talking with a very left-leaning relative the other day. Immigration and the small boats came up. Her answer was along the lines of;

    "Do you know how much they actually cost - it's only £xxM not these hundreds of billions people think. The rich have assets of X, the cost of migrants is less than 0.1% of that etc etc"

    Plus

    "it's not that great you know. They say they're in luxury hotels, they can't use the gym or sit in the swimming pool... they only get £10 a week for food, would you like to live off that? They want to work but not allowed to etc"

    And my point is.... as I said above, rightly or wrongly: nobody cares. You're not going to win anybody over with that argument. It's past that. The headline snapshot is that whilst people here struggle, people arrive on a boat and get given free board and free food and free clothes. That's it. Argue all you want about whether it's worth it for them or how nice the lifestyle is or isn't, or how little that costs compared to how much money billionaires have. People just. Don't. Care. They're angry, and getting angrier. They want change, they want it quickly, and they want it as a bold, impactful statement.

    And Labours answer? One-in-one-out. And they stand there championing it like that's going to reverse this tidal wave of ill-feeling. The mind boggles.

    And now....here we go again. The child benefit cap! Again, you can argue the ins & outs of it all you like, but the headline snapshot- again, rightly or wrongly - is this: Labour are giving more money to people who can't be bothered to work and are happy to sit at home popping kids out that they can't afford to have, whilst people who go out to work and are already struggling see the income tax threshold frozen.

    It just beggars belief.... how can a government be so oblivious to how so many people in the country really feel right now??
     
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    Thought I would post a couple of pointers from my accountants briefing notes on the budget this morning timely reminders on subjects we see discussed a fair bit here:

    Making Tax Digital for Income Tax (MTD IT)
    The requirement to file tax returns using MTD IT will come into effect from
    6 April 2026. Those initially affected by the rules will be those with annual income
    from a sole trader business or property, or both together, of £50,000. This will drop
    to £30,000 from 6 April 2027, and it is intended to expand the rollout to those with
    incomes over £20,000 by the end of the Parliament. Anyone who will be affected
    by these rules should make sure they are ready to comply with them in good time:
    understanding the requirements and making sure that it is possible to comply with
    them is not something that should be done at the last minute.
    However, the Budget included the good news that late submission penalties will
    not apply for quarterly updates during the 2026/27 tax year for taxpayers required
    to join MTD IT. The new penalty regime for late submission and late payment will
    apply to all self-assessment taxpayers not already due to join the new system from
    6 April 2027. The government will also increase the penalties due for late payment
    of self-assessment income tax and VAT from 1 April 2027.

    Late filing
    From 1 April 2026, the penalties for late filing of corporation tax returns will be
    doubled. They will become £200 for any lateness (£1,000 for the third successive
    offence); a further £200 (or £1,000) if the return is still not filed after 3 months; and
    tax-geared penalties of 10% of the amount unpaid if they are still not filed after 6 and
    again after 12 months.
     
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    Agreed, I believe (and sincerely hope) they're not around long enough to see some of this through. I honestly don't think I've ever known a government manage to so spectacularly alienate so many different sectors of the population. And what baffles me is how out of touch they seem to be with the opinions of the British people....rightly or wrongly, people are at best disappointed and at worst angry at what they see happening around them, and it's like the government have blinkers on to it all.

    I have been trying to find the right words to express this succinctly (and some cleverer than me on here will, I'm sure) but I was talking with a very left-leaning relative the other day. Immigration and the small boats came up. Her answer was along the lines of;

    "Do you know how much they actually cost - it's only £xxM not these hundreds of billions people think. The rich have assets of X, the cost of migrants is less than 0.1% of that etc etc"

    Plus

    "it's not that great you know. They say they're in luxury hotels, they can't use the gym or sit in the swimming pool... they only get £10 a week for food, would you like to live off that? They want to work but not allowed to etc"

    And my point is.... as I said above, rightly or wrongly: nobody cares. You're not going to win anybody over with that argument. It's past that. The headline snapshot is that whilst people here struggle, people arrive on a boat and get given free board and free food and free clothes. That's it. Argue all you want about whether it's worth it for them or how nice the lifestyle is or isn't, or how little that costs compared to how much money billionaires have. People just. Don't. Care. They're angry, and getting angrier. They want change, they want it quickly, and they want it as a bold, impactful statement.

    And Labours answer? One-in-one-out. And they stand there championing it like that's going to reverse this tidal wave of ill-feeling. The mind boggles.

    And now....here we go again. The child benefit cap! Again, you can argue the ins & outs of it all you like, but the headline snapshot- again, rightly or wrongly - is this: Labour are giving more money to people who can't be bothered to work and are happy to sit at home popping kids out that they can't afford to have, whilst people who go out to work and are already struggling see the income tax threshold frozen.

    It just beggars belief.... how can a government be so oblivious to how so many people in the country really feel right now??
    The trouble with that is it's smokescreen rubbish peddled by the right telling you what to think, they are experts in divide and conquer tactics.

    It really isn't one of the main problems within the country, just what people are being told is a problem. I deal with the general public and business owners every day and they are worried about the cost of doing business/hiring staff, the cost of living/inflation, energy costs, difficulty in seeing a doctor or accessing various services.

    The people pushing immigration as the problem; e.g. Farage, GB News and the right wing press are all funded/owned by hugely wealth people, who are doing this to push an agenda. If you think they want to help the man in the street or small business owner you're deluding yourself. They want cheaper labour, fewer workers rights, less accountability for them. Smokescreens, obfuscation, and downright lies are all they offer.

    As an example, we had a good process to send cross channel immigrants back before Brexit. When we were in the EU we could send every single one back to their EU point of origin. Farage, and the liars and pillocks that pushed Brexit as the answer in 2016, let you down then and will let you down again. I've also yet to speak to a single business owner that thinks Brexit has helped their business or the UK economy.

    Labour have done a terrible job, they inherited a god awful mess post Brexit, Covid and austerity wise from the Tories, but they couldn't have come across as more inept or made themselves look less appealing to the UK public. However, they are still more credible than the last lot, and if you want to vote for Christmas, then be a Turkey and get the ltd company that is Reform into power. The UK can then become a clone of the hollowed out laughing stock that Trump has turned the USA into it.
     
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    The trouble with that is it's smokescreen rubbish peddled by the right telling you what to think, they are experts in divide and conquer tactics.

    It really isn't one of the main problems within the country, just what people are being told is a problem. I deal with the general public and business owners every day and they are worried about the cost of doing business/hiring staff, the cost of living/inflation, energy costs, difficulty in seeing a doctor or accessing various services.

    The people pushing immigration as the problem; e.g. Farage, GB News and the right wing press are all funded/owned by hugely wealth people, who are doing this to push an agenda. If you think they want to help the man in the street or small business owner you're deluding yourself. They want cheaper labour, fewer workers rights, less accountability for them. Smokescreens, obfuscation, and downright lies are all they offer.

    As an example, we had a good process to send cross channel immigrants back before Brexit. When we were in the EU we could send every single one back to their EU point of origin. Farage, and the liars and pillocks that pushed Brexit as the answer in 2016, let you down then and will let you down again. I've also yet to speak to a single business owner that thinks Brexit has helped their business or the UK economy.

    Labour have done a terrible job, they inherited a god awful mess post Brexit, Covid and austerity wise from the Tories, but they couldn't have come across as more inept or made themselves look less appealing to the UK public. However, they are still more credible than the last lot, and if you want to vote for Christmas, then be a Turkey and get the ltd company that is Reform into power. The UK can then become a clone of the hollowed out laughing stock that Trump has turned the USA into it.

    I think to be fair, you've illustrated my point. I wasn't saying I agree with everything in my initial post - and I'm not disagreeing with everything you're saying.

    What I am saying is, the smokescreen as you quite rightly call it, is working on a huge majority of people. That's my point. People are past the point of listening to any explanations - they will close their ears to being told that immigration control was better before Brexit. They like Farage and don't want to be told who's funding them or why. They're sick to the back teeth of what they see to be the problem, and Labour aren't doing a single thing that's drastic or dramatic enough to change it.

    It may vary around the country I don't know, but where I am in the North it's honestly quite worrying how sick and tired people really are. I notice it in general conversation or even what comes up when going out for a pint - I don't think in my 20 years of being a regular pub-goer I've ever known the state of the country, politics, immigration, cost of living etc be so openly and so regularly discussed and complained about.
     
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    I think to be fair, you've illustrated my point. I wasn't saying I agree with everything in my initial post - and I'm not disagreeing with everything you're saying.

    What I am saying is, the smokescreen as you quite rightly call it, is working on a huge majority of people. That's my point. People are past the point of listening to any explanations - they will close their ears to being told that immigration control was better before Brexit. They like Farage and don't want to be told who's funding them or why. They're sick to the back teeth of what they see to be the problem, and Labour aren't doing a single thing that's drastic or dramatic enough to change it.

    It may vary around the country I don't know, but where I am in the North it's honestly quite worrying how sick and tired people really are. I notice it in general conversation or even what comes up when going out for a pint - I don't think in my 20 years of being a regular pub-goer I've ever known the state of the country, politics, immigration, cost of living etc be so openly and so regularly discussed and complained about.
    I agree, it's worrying right enough. If a large group of the general public think all politicians are corrupt or in it for themselves, then we have a major problem. We may well end up with Farage, or a coalition, with him in power...

    Let's be honest, Labour and especially Starmer don't seem to stand for much, they certainly haven't given any impression of standing up for the working class people or areas, which is a real problem. But, their process of government and fiscal credibility is way higher than anything under Johnson, and the less said about Truss and Kwarteng the better.

    I think part of the problem is Labour are held to a different standard to the Tory governments. They have to be seen to be better, more diligent etc, as most of the media is owned by the wealthy and the right wing leaning, so it's in their interest to scrutinise any left leaning government more.

    I'm not sure what can be done about it, as most people are too busy to see through the press and TV smokescreen, or the echo chamber of social media. They just won't do in depth research, or critical analysis looking at the facts and fact checking. Part of the issue is the BBC has to not show bias, this often means finding one tinfoil hat idiot to argue a point against the general scientific consensus of thousands, which fulfills the written bias brief, but is actually the most biased situation you can possibly think of!

    As a critical analysis example, I run a business based on data, research and statistical insights, and we drive considerable success for clients using this model. However, I still have conversations that go "the lead gen isn't working, as the last 3 or 4 leads we spoke to wasted my time", forgetting that the 2 previous leads made them a load of money. Basically, a small sample set has very little if any statistical significance!

    All I think we can do, is try get people to be more aware of confirmation bias, to fact check and carry out more critical thinking. The Brexit and immigration point is not known to many people I speak to, so is worth bringing up. As is the fact that Reform have been utterly shambolic and disastrous in local councils, plus the Reform Welsh leader is now in prison for for pro-Russia bribery! They are not the people to save the UK...

    Anyway, I think we may have hijacked this thread!
     
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    Apart from lifting the idiotic and economically illiterate two-child benefits cap, I found NOTHING praiseworthy in this budget. Reeves had one choice and she refused to make that decision - she had to cut spending.

    The UK cannot afford the civil service and there had to be a hiring freeze. There is no way on Planet Earth that the MoD needs 60,000 civil servants and there are no excuses for Universal Credit to cost around £30bn to administer. The NHS does not need ANY call centres and it certainly does not need any quangos, committees and management consultants. It wastes at least £700 per person per year on all that pointless political window dressing.

    There was nothing in that budget to boost the economy. Ever-higher taxes dampen economic activity, but there was nothing in that budget to boost anything at all and put money into the pockets of Driver Dave and Forklift Fred and Shelf-Stacker Sheila.

    The UK is heading into a financial squeeze that won’t announce itself with a dramatic crash, but with a slow tightening of the screws on household finances. The trigger isn’t one single event, but the convergence of global credit stress, CLO (Collateralised Loan Obligations) failures, collapsing commercial property values, and the end of the yen carry trade - borrow at 0% in Japan, lend in the West) with a domestic housing market already strained by high rates and falling real incomes.

    The first impact will be higher borrowing costs, even if the Bank of England wants to cut. When global credit markets seize, lenders widen margins to protect themselves. So mortgages, car loans and credit cards will stay expensive even as base rates fall. That means the usual relief that households expect during a slowdown simply won’t happen.

    Second, house prices are likely to fall further, driven not by repossessions but by illiquidity: fewer buyers, tougher lending criteria, and elderly sellers clinging to “yesterday’s price”. A 10–20% further decline is likely. Negative equity will rise, reducing mobility and consumer confidence (historically one of the UK’s most important economic drivers).

    Third, pensions and ISAs will take a hit, because UK savers are far more exposed to global equity and credit markets than they realise. A rotation out of AI mega-caps and a shock in CLO markets will flow directly into pension fund valuations. Defined-contribution savers (the majority today) will feel this immediately.

    Fourth, public services will continue to deteriorate. A credit contraction hits tax revenues just as government funding costs rise. With little fiscal room, the response will be spending cuts and stealth taxes. Either way, households pay.

    Finally, the job market will soften. Businesses facing higher refinancing costs will freeze hiring, cut investment, and trim hours before cutting staff. Wage growth will fall while prices remain sticky, and that is a quiet form of real-income erosion.

    Taken together, this represents the most serious household-level squeeze since 2008, but without the political or financial tools that existed then.

    The Political Fallout -
    1. The government will blame a global recession and lose control of the narrative almost immediately.
    2. Reeves will lose all credibility.
    3. The populists will surge.
    4. The civil service and quangos will become a political target.
    5. The bond market becomes the real opposition.
    6. The mainstream media will lose what little credibility it has left.
    Economic gravity is about to reassert itself. When it does, the political system will find itself without buffers, without excuses, and without money.

    The question is, will the UK go into managed decline, populist rupture, or technocratic takeover?

    If the past is our prologue, it will be a managed decline.
     
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    today's factory is more narrowly specialised, and demands a bigger sales area

    some of the richest parts of Europe are in the middle of the continent, some of the poorest are on the periphery

    the British people must recognise that their off-shore island, in the North Atlantic, is not an attractive manufacturing location
     
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    The government has announced it will extend the freeze to personal tax thresholds (income tax and National Insurance contributions) for three further years, from April 2028 to 2031
     
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    I'm not gonna try and say i'm clued up on all political and financial information, but from a layman I just don't understand how they are banging on about low productivity yet froze personal tax thresholds and increased dividend tax once more.. I understand it's a stealth tax, but common!

    As a sole director ltd i've packed in work and no longer taking clients due to not wanting to go into the higher tax band and prefer to have a better work/life balance

    If they increased the tax bands then i'd work more, earn more and spend more in the UK. There must be thousands of people in the same position

    That and why in the hell is Sunday Trading Act still a thing? Most shops are only allowed to be open for 6 hours between 10am-6pm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Trading_Act_1994

    Scrap that and now we have an additional 6+ hours of trade on a Sunday for a lot of businesses, not to mention fewer people rushing around on Sunday to get to the shops before 4PM jamming up the roads and causing mayhem

    We need to be a 7-day week country, it's 2025! More hours, more jobs, more tax, more productivity. I don't think I know anyone that works a typical Mon-Fri 9-5 job

    Oh and scrap the £100k childcare trap, everyone should be entitled to childcare and not penalised based on wage (yet another thing killing productivity and reducing working hours). It's not something i'll ever use but it's a really dumb thing to have imo


    As much as I hate the tories, at least their budgets had a few things that benefited business owners/people at or near the £50k salary range (which isn't a super high income any more)

    I think there was one thing that is a positive for someone in my situation, lower energy bills 🙄
     
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    If they increased the tax bands then i'd work more, earn more and spend more in the UK
    You do realise that the tax system in the UK is marginal i.e. if you move up a tax band, everything below it is not taxed at the higher rate?

    Earn more, take more home, pay more tax...!
     
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    You do realise that the tax system in the UK is marginal i.e. if you move up a tax band, everything below it is not taxed at the higher rate?

    Earn more, take more home, pay more tax...!

    Yeah but the money earned above is a heck of a lot more tax and I lose £500/year savings allowance, it's not worth the effort, i'd rather sit at home or go live life
     
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    Scrap that and now we have an additional 6+ hours of trade on a Sunday for a lot of businesses,
    So we would have an additional 6 hours (or more) of costs for businesses - staff, utilities, etc, with potential customers who have exactly the same amount to spend (or less) as they had before the change. Do you really think that will increase productivity? I have always thought that the start of the decline of the pub industry was the extension of opening hours - increased costs but little increased customer expenditure.
     
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    So we would have an additional 6 hours (or more) of costs for businesses - staff, utilities, etc, with potential customers who have exactly the same amount to spend (or less) as they had before the change. Do you really think that will increase productivity? I have always thought that the start of the decline of the pub industry was the extension of opening hours - increased costs but little increased customer expenditure.

    Those are possibilities, with the law scrapped it puts the decision in business' hands

    Similar to how my local Asda changed to 24 hours, but decided it wasn't worth the effort

    Having extra hours for people to work is great for students/parents wanting more hours, and of course everyone else that doesn't get enough hours
     
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    @potato632 Some bizzare old nonsense going on here, I'd do some research fella.

    I worked in retail management at the time of the Sunday trading changes, it made very little difference to weekly turnover, but reduced Saturday takings considerably.

    More hours open means more cost, it would reduce retail productivity, not improve it, especially now so much of retail is done online. It also sucks having to work Sundays; you like a work life balance, but everyone else can work 8-10 hours on a Sunday!

    Many countries like Germany, Italy and Norway have little or no Sunday openings for shops. They have far better work life balance, pay higher taxes, yet have a better standard of living and GDP based on their cost of living.

    The Tories started the erosion of dividend taxes thresholds and increasing the dividend rates several years ago, and the freezing of annual tax band allowance. Their useless hard Brexit, plus privatisation of the country's infrastructure has driven the energy bills to their current level. Their general mismanagement of the economy drove mortgage rates and borrowing rates through the roof, austerity and cutting public services has crippled the NHS and councils too.

    We need radical not tinkering, and certainly the Tories have no answers.
     
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    I have seen and had to read through budgets here and elsewhere and have done so for a few decades. This budget takes the biscuit. It is a pointless exercise in treading water. It achieves nothing. It changes nothing. It only serves to throttle the economy over the life of this administration and allow Reform to become the next hapless, gormless excuse for a government.

    We have two political directions in the UK - Left v. Right. And both are wrong.

    The Left is still convinced that higher taxes will redistribute income. It does not!
    The Right still believes that unrestricted free enterprise provides growth. It does not!

    1. The Left has to get it through its head that there is no correlation between having a welfare state with good welfare outcomes and high or low taxes. Non whatsoever!

    2. The Right has to get it through its head that taxes, laws and red tape also act as a defensive barrier and provide structure for industry and commerce.

    3. The government has to get it through its thick head that all parts of government have to be efficient.

    The case of the United States stands out: despite enormous per-capita health and social spending (healthcare expenditure among the highest on Planet Earth) its outcomes on life expectancy, infant and child mortality and preventable deaths are some of the worst in the developed world. That is arguably one of the strongest illustrations that spending alone (or tax burden) doesn’t guarantee welfare success.

    The best welfare outcomes are to be found in the Nordic countries and Japan.
    The deeper factor (difficult to quantify, and therefore ignored) is social trust.

    High social trust societies:
    • accept redistribution without paranoia
    • comply with laws voluntarily
    • maintain strong civil society networks
    • experience lower crime
    • raise children in more stable environments
    • navigate political compromises more effectively
    Low-trust societies:
    • interpret taxation as theft
    • fight constant battles over entitlement
    • experience political polarisation
    • rely on litigation rather than negotiation
    • struggle to maintain institutional legitimacy
    The US is, at its core, a low-trust society. Denmark, Norway, Finland, the Netherlands, Japan, and Switzerland are extremely high-trust. The UK sits uncomfortably in the middle, with trust declining over the past 30 years. And doing so fairly rapidly!

    You can pour money into a low-trust society and get nothing out of it. This is politically delicate, which is partly why economists and their political masters do not like touching it. We have destroyed the extended family. We have destroyed the family weekend with Sunday shopping. And our institutions are busy destroying themselves. The church, the monarchy, the BBC, and our political systems are all dismantling themselves brick by brick.

    We are even destroying the concept of men and women.

    And we wonder what is going wrong!
     
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    @potato632 Some bizzare old nonsense going on here, I'd do some research fella.

    I worked in retail management at the time of the Sunday trading changes, it made very little difference to weekly turnover, but reduced Saturday takings considerably.

    More hours open means more cost, it would reduce retail productivity, not improve it, especially now so much of retail is done online. It also sucks having to work Sundays; you like a work life balance, but everyone else can work 8-10 hours on a Sunday!

    Many countries like Germany, Italy and Norway have little or no Sunday openings for shops. They have far better work life balance, pay higher taxes, yet have a better standard of living and GDP based on their cost of living.

    The Tories started the erosion of dividend taxes thresholds and increasing the dividend rates several years ago, and the freezing of annual tax band allowance. Their useless hard Brexit, plus privatisation of the country's infrastructure has driven the energy bills to their current level. Their general mismanagement of the economy drove mortgage rates and borrowing rates through the roof, austerity and cutting public services has crippled the NHS and councils too.

    We need radical not tinkering, and certainly the Tories have no answers.
    Yes interesting I was also in the retail game when Sunday trading came in pushed through by our competitors at the time, the wonderful Mr Green at Bhs and Woolworths and look where it got them. Your right costs went through the roof 6 day trading figures just got spread over 7 it killed footfall on the late nights which saw them gradually fall by the wayside until we only did one a week on a Thursday staying open to 7 instead of 9

    These days I steer clear of shopping centres and retail but whilst away last weekend the wife dragged me into a New Look store on Sunday, two floors, huge place as per usual .......we were the only people in there the whole time we were there, and to cap it all she still couldn't find the bloody top she wanted and we came out empty handed.

    The only retail I suspect doing very well are those in the regional centres or your shopping villages.
     
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    @potato632 Some bizzare old nonsense going on here, I'd do some research fella.

    I worked in retail management at the time of the Sunday trading changes, it made very little difference to weekly turnover, but reduced Saturday takings considerably.

    More hours open means more cost, it would reduce retail productivity, not improve it, especially now so much of retail is done online. It also sucks having to work Sundays; you like a work life balance, but everyone else can work 8-10 hours on a Sunday!

    Many countries like Germany, Italy and Norway have little or no Sunday openings for shops. They have far better work life balance, pay higher taxes, yet have a better standard of living and GDP based on their cost of living.

    The Tories started the erosion of dividend taxes thresholds and increasing the dividend rates several years ago, and the freezing of annual tax band allowance. Their useless hard Brexit, plus privatisation of the country's infrastructure has driven the energy bills to their current level. Their general mismanagement of the economy drove mortgage rates and borrowing rates through the roof, austerity and cutting public services has crippled the NHS and councils too.

    We need radical not tinkering, and certainly the Tories have no answers.

    You guys could be correct that it won't make much financial difference, but that's for businesses to figure out

    I honestly see no benefit to having Sunday Trading Act in 2025, the only thing it does is limit for no gain

    The days of Sunday being a family day are long gone for a lot of people imo, it's very common for both parents to work not to mention much different working hours today vs 20 years ago. Working from home is huge, so is flexitime, zero hours etc

    As you said we need radical changes and not tinkering, so remove anything that limits productivity including STA
     
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    You guys could be correct that it won't make much financial difference, but that's for businesses to figure out

    I honestly see no benefit to having Sunday Trading Act in 2025, the only thing it does is limit for no gain

    The days of Sunday being a family day are long gone for a lot of people imo, it's very common for both parents to work not to mention much different working hours today vs 20 years ago. Working from home is huge, so is flexitime, zero hours etc

    As you said we need radical changes and not tinkering, so remove anything that limits productivity including STA
    Retailers' may realise that there is no financial gain in opening additional hours on (for example) a Sunday. However, if the competition down the road is open they will follow suit so as not to lose customer loyalty. Business regulation has an important role to play in maintaining as level a playing field as possible.
     
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    Retailers' may realise that there is no financial gain in opening additional hours on (for example) a Sunday. However, if the competition down the road is open they will follow suit so as not to lose customer loyalty. Business regulation has an important role to play in maintaining as level a playing field as possible.

    That's a good point, people are creatures of habit so if they get into the swing of regularly going to supermarket X as it's open later than others, they'll likely visit it during the day too

    When an Aldi opened in a nearby town a few years ago, they said they'll petition the local council to scrap the Sunday hours limitation but I guess that failed..
     
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    The Chancellor claimed: "My fiscal rules will get borrowing down while supporting investment ... I said we would cut the debt and we are. Those are my choices. Not austerity, not reckless borrowing, but cutting the debt."

    John Redwood (Margaret Thatcher’s former senior economics adviser) claims that the Budget is misleading because it does not make clear that there is an extra £675bn bill to cover the cost of renewing existing borrowing in the form of government loans, (aka gilts). That is on top of £628bn increased government spending over the next five years. The extra borrowing will take the national debt to £3.53trn, roughly £50,000 for every man, woman and child in the country.

    Sir John warns: "Rachel Reeves is building a debt mountain whilst claiming to bring the debt down. She wants to add a staggering £628bn to the state debt over the next five years, as if the £3tn the Government has already borrowed was not enough. She only brings in some tax rises at the end of the period to pretend late in the day to be doing something about her borrowing habits."

    Sadly, I am forced to agree with him. “It’s like watching someone who wants to go on a spending spree aim to take out a large overdraft, only to find they also need a pile of cash to repay the mortgage they already have when it expires.” he stated, questioning whether the bond markets will find another £1.3tn.

    He points out (correctly IMO) that The Bank of England is a seller of bonds, no longer a buyer. That makes it it more difficult for the Government to access funds by selling even more bonds. This is forcing interest rates on the latest bond sales up and the 30-year rate has gone from 0.5% in 2020 to well over 5% today. That is one hell of an increase!

    Her choices are to either borrow that extra £675bn, or cut government spending. That means asking the civil service to cut back on the civil service. My guess is that every person within that august body will do their level best to thwart any attempts at real cutbacks.
     
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    Thanks for the summary! It looks very thorough. A few other points to consider might include:
    • Changes to corporation tax for certain businesses.
    • Updates to pension contributions or ISA limits.
    • Sector-specific reliefs or incentives, such as for green energy or R&D.
    Planning will be important to make the most of these updates.
     
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    You do realise that the tax system in the UK is marginal i.e. if you move up a tax band, everything below it is not taxed at the higher rate?

    Earn more, take more home, pay more tax...!
    The problem is that take-home graph levels out and after £100k , if you have kids, there is hardly any point. This govt seemingly don't understand businesses at all.
     
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    The Chancellor claimed: "My fiscal rules will get borrowing down while supporting investment ... I said we would cut the debt and we are. Those are my choices. Not austerity, not reckless borrowing, but cutting the debt."

    John Redwood (Margaret Thatcher’s former senior economics adviser) claims that the Budget is misleading because it does not make clear that there is an extra £675bn bill to cover the cost of renewing existing borrowing in the form of government loans, (aka gilts). That is on top of £628bn increased government spending over the next five years. The extra borrowing will take the national debt to £3.53trn, roughly £50,000 for every man, woman and child in the country.

    Sir John warns: "Rachel Reeves is building a debt mountain whilst claiming to bring the debt down. She wants to add a staggering £628bn to the state debt over the next five years, as if the £3tn the Government has already borrowed was not enough. She only brings in some tax rises at the end of the period to pretend late in the day to be doing something about her borrowing habits."

    Sadly, I am forced to agree with him. “It’s like watching someone who wants to go on a spending spree aim to take out a large overdraft, only to find they also need a pile of cash to repay the mortgage they already have when it expires.” he stated, questioning whether the bond markets will find another £1.3tn.

    He points out (correctly IMO) that The Bank of England is a seller of bonds, no longer a buyer. That makes it it more difficult for the Government to access funds by selling even more bonds. This is forcing interest rates on the latest bond sales up and the 30-year rate has gone from 0.5% in 2020 to well over 5% today. That is one hell of an increase!

    Her choices are to either borrow that extra £675bn, or cut government spending. That means asking the civil service to cut back on the civil service. My guess is that every person within that august body will do their level best to thwart any attempts at real cutbacks.
    Redwood was spot on
     
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