backlink Advice needed!
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Hello Ryan,
There is many ways to go about this, some good and some bad. Personally I have always been a big fan of using forum posting to build backlinks. The good thing about forum posting is that you not only gain backlinks but you can also generate direct traffic from the forums. If there is any forums within your niche I think it's a great place to start.
Another great idea is to create a blog as part of your website and write articles about tree surgery and link to the specific pages on your site. Even better you could also create a blog on a separate domain and create articles linking to your main website. While this isn't quite what you're asking it's a great way to help your sites search engine rankings.
I also recommend taking a look at your website itself (on-page SEO) to make sure it's optimised for the search engines.
I look forward to hearing some more responses from others.
Jack
There is many ways to go about this, some good and some bad. Personally I have always been a big fan of using forum posting to build backlinks. The good thing about forum posting is that you not only gain backlinks but you can also generate direct traffic from the forums. If there is any forums within your niche I think it's a great place to start.
Another great idea is to create a blog as part of your website and write articles about tree surgery and link to the specific pages on your site. Even better you could also create a blog on a separate domain and create articles linking to your main website. While this isn't quite what you're asking it's a great way to help your sites search engine rankings.
I also recommend taking a look at your website itself (on-page SEO) to make sure it's optimised for the search engines.
I look forward to hearing some more responses from others.
Jack
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Hello, i am a tree surggeon and i am just asking advice on the best way to go about gaining quality backlinks, as i am slightly confused- info overload!!
Any info is greatfully appreciated
There are lots of things you can do to get what I'm going to risk calling "lower quality" links - as has been mentioned, forum posting (particularly with signature links) - also things like posting comments on blogs and generally contributing to content on other sites.
You can also try to find people who will publish a guest blog or article written by you (might be good if you can find a localish site as helps establish your name, too) - or you can do some research into submitting articles and press releases to any of the massive distribution sites out there.
Confusing - yes - because it's a big area!
Also make sure that your site contains regularly updated, engaging, valuable content - and people will be more likely to link to you naturally!
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I think this would be more valuable than blog comments and forum postings. Ensure a condition of publishing is that your in context link remains do follow. Suggest having just one anchor text link per article (easier to get published than one littered with links and single link is more effective).
Depending on interest, I may be able to put together a DIY package which will allow you to write articles and we will get them published for you. If you'd like to have some information on this, pm me an email and I'll update you when I've figured it out
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I was suggesting guest blogging as article directories have little impact these days. The advantage of a guest blog is you can get IP diversity along with a do follow, in context, anchor text, link.
To find a UK blog to submit an article try a search like
Also try variations on "write for us".
Have a look at the site to ensure they have articles similar to what you are writing about, and check PR of home page. Check to see if they keep a decent archive going back a couple of years (your link stays around longer). Try to do an article slightly better quality than what's already published. Or to put it another way, use your best articles for the better sites...
Also a search on "guest blogging opportunities" and variations will also uncover some more.
Once you found one, submit a variety of articles, with different anchor text, over time, say one a week (if you can mange that many). Do a social bookmark on each article.
Hope that helps...
To find a UK blog to submit an article try a search like
or
where keyword is what you're writing about.
Also try variations on "write for us".
Have a look at the site to ensure they have articles similar to what you are writing about, and check PR of home page. Check to see if they keep a decent archive going back a couple of years (your link stays around longer). Try to do an article slightly better quality than what's already published. Or to put it another way, use your best articles for the better sites...
Also a search on "guest blogging opportunities" and variations will also uncover some more.
Once you found one, submit a variety of articles, with different anchor text, over time, say one a week (if you can mange that many). Do a social bookmark on each article.
Hope that helps...
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In reality I would suggest you do both, find related websites, that may do a link exchange or better still offer a one way backlink.
However you should also do a range of other forms of back links strategies such as:
article marketing
forum posting
directories
one of the key factors that many seem to miss, is the fact that when looking at obtaining back links, try to use anchor text with your relevant keywords as often as possible. This provides valuable information for search engines to be able to place your content in the relevant section of its search.
However you should also do a range of other forms of back links strategies such as:
article marketing
forum posting
directories
one of the key factors that many seem to miss, is the fact that when looking at obtaining back links, try to use anchor text with your relevant keywords as often as possible. This provides valuable information for search engines to be able to place your content in the relevant section of its search.
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As a former forum and article banks owner, there's quite a bit of benefit rankings-wise to be had. As a forum member/article poster, there's little gain.
Forum profile/member links? - haven't seen mine visible yet in several years! - as I used a few forums where free weblinks were allowed, but the benefit quickly wears off, and thats a fact I can prove as the Hedir forum carries my link, but wont rank me for it. I'm guessing its no-followed.....
So from a ranking perspective, forum links are useless, and expecting people to read a bunch of posts in the hope of getting sales from it - hasn't happened to me yet, probably due to the strict No self-promotion allowed rules that many forums have, despite allowing you a weblink on a profile page, which has no benefit. :| Even the signature links wont work, as there all no-followed.
And probably the biggest piece of proof of all, is that forums are places of entertainment - NOT business and there's the problem.
And seeing most forum members own tech services anyway, its not the right place for those outside the I.T sector. But I agree that forums are great for social interaction and some biz types might get a trickle of benefit from it, but thats about it.
Forums are fine if you want to find an SEO, while your posting or whatever, but honestly, many will search a directory or search engine first.
No critical SERPS mass from any forum yet, I'm still waiting though to see it.... my guess is I'll never see it - just a feeling I got
Blogging
If your going to do this, get your own blog as you can then ensure the pages get indexed. But you'll need a ton of posting for it to be worth it. They are great for collecting testimonials, especially the Wordpress blog system.
Forum profile/member links? - haven't seen mine visible yet in several years! - as I used a few forums where free weblinks were allowed, but the benefit quickly wears off, and thats a fact I can prove as the Hedir forum carries my link, but wont rank me for it. I'm guessing its no-followed.....
So from a ranking perspective, forum links are useless, and expecting people to read a bunch of posts in the hope of getting sales from it - hasn't happened to me yet, probably due to the strict No self-promotion allowed rules that many forums have, despite allowing you a weblink on a profile page, which has no benefit. :|
Even the signature links wont work, as there all no-followed. And probably the biggest piece of proof of all, is that forums are places of entertainment - NOT business and there's the problem.
And seeing most forum members own tech services anyway, its not the right place for those outside the I.T sector. But I agree that forums are great for social interaction and some biz types might get a trickle of benefit from it, but thats about it.
Forums are fine if you want to find an SEO, while your posting or whatever, but honestly, many will search a directory or search engine first.
No critical SERPS mass from any forum yet, I'm still waiting though to see it.... my guess is I'll never see it - just a feeling I got
Blogging
If your going to do this, get your own blog as you can then ensure the pages get indexed. But you'll need a ton of posting for it to be worth it. They are great for collecting testimonials, especially the Wordpress blog system.
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Profile links are too deep within a website's pages Massey, you know this, come on....
IF the real intent of a forum is to help its members, they should give the members free weblinks and place them so their highly visible on the first page or at least allow them in the signatures, if not the links, in the posts themselves.
But we all know why some dont allow it - Money. I'm just saying there are ways to make money and give great value AT the same time
- just give a free link and charge for something else - Simples!Many ways to do this.........
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Profile links are too deep within a website's pages Massey, you know this, come on....
IF the real intent of a forum is to help its members, they should give the members free weblinks and place them so their highly visible on the first page or at least allow them in the signatures, if not the links, in the posts themselves.
But we all know why some dont allow it - Money. I'm just saying there are ways to make money and give great value AT the same time
Many ways to do this.........
I can assure you that the bots get into the profiles, i have an screenshot that proves it but can't attach it in the forum ?
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OK suggest we take a look at this then
How many Bots can you find ? Even registered as users ????
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What you need to ensure is that apart from the on page SEO elements, when you obtain backlinks, put your keywords within anchortext html, so that within your article ( within which your keywords should also be mentioned ) you can use this to tell Google information about your website and location info.
For instance you may want to put your location within the keyword. Although i would suggest that you do some keyword research to see how often the keyword is searched.
Since you are UK based, then ideally UK based anchortext links will work best, and it just so happens.....
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advice is free... implementation is nto (ok so we do that free sometimes).
Your forgetting we're here to advise and discuss. If you gain business from it thats a bonus
Your forgetting we're here to advise and discuss. If you gain business from it thats a bonus
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The advice may be free, but the weblink's not. £35 a year......
This isn't a top directory that sends business leads, its a forum, so no paid link will help.
If forums were designed to sell its members, I'd happily spend the fee for a link, but their not lead generation sites, so the way in which they work has nothing to do with physically selling its users (which is its product by the way!) and it should be doing exactly that in return for what the members give to the forum.
Some members spend their lives posting - its nuts when they get nothing in return, apart from a chance of making sales, which costs them, and the placement charge for a link isn't a good deal.
Forget the addictiveness aspect to this bcos that wears off fast - where's the reward?
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Are you suggesting you should only do something if you personally gain? Sorry if I've misunderstood.
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Unless you run a registered charity, then yes, bcos businesses are in it to make a profit and/or get things that can lead to profit. I got no problem with giving, I do it on a huge scale, but lets not pretend that the majority of websites are created as non-profit entities, not for the love of fellow mankind.
No point in being in business, without gain - you'd be wasting your time.
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Ed signature links are worth nothing. I have had 2000 sig links pointing at a domain before and they did nothing, not that i was expecting them too anyway.
Sig links do get your site crawled more often.
And the top and tail of it is if you fill out a profile in a forum add your keywords and your site link, that does help with your seo.
Like i said earlier there is a website that ranks on page 1 for plumber in birmingham and their link profile is links of that nature.
Sig links do get your site crawled more often.
And the top and tail of it is if you fill out a profile in a forum add your keywords and your site link, that does help with your seo.
Like i said earlier there is a website that ranks on page 1 for plumber in birmingham and their link profile is links of that nature.
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Surely you do personally gain?
It might not be money, it might just be having a pleasant way to take short breaks from work during the day.
Or it could be having a place to go and ask questions.
Or it could be because you get to know people that you later get to know away from the forum.
There are many ways to benefit from the forum without any money changing hands.
Steve
PS I know you know that. I'm just pointing out to the thread that there are many non-commercial ways to benefit from participating in this forum.
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i TOTALLY agree with the above, I use this forum, to get advice, for interesting reading and post my opinions on topics of interest to me and a way of networking. Being part of a like minded community. I don't see forum posting as a way of benefiting me commercially.
Gaining back links, visitors to my sites and an increase in my business is just the icing on the cake but shouldn't be your main reasons for posting on forums.
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Spot on !
The bottom line, is that some join forums purely for personal gain, they are only interested in getting what they can out of the forums, whilst most join to become members of a community, gain and provide advice and help and build rapport and ultimately this will provide business opportunities through contacts.
However, this has gone slightly off topic as the original question was:
"Hello, i am a tree surggeon and i am just asking advice on the best way to go about gaining quality backlinks, as i am slightly confused- info overload!!
Any info is greatfully appreciated
"Get anchortext backlinks, ideally UK hosted, that way it helps with geo targeting. Articles are one way, forum links are another. In reality their are numerous ways.
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All the techniques posted in this thread.
Also though, it does take time. I mean you can spend a good three hours just looking for decent places, ie. a forum to post information in or a blog to comment on...
I guess link building never stops, once you begin it should never stop, you need to keep finding those links!
Just be prepared to spend a lot of time in gaining not many links.
Also though, it does take time. I mean you can spend a good three hours just looking for decent places, ie. a forum to post information in or a blog to comment on...
I guess link building never stops, once you begin it should never stop, you need to keep finding those links!
Just be prepared to spend a lot of time in gaining not many links.
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Any link worth its salt WILL have a price tag. Get used to it, bcos you aren't getting on any authority site without paying.
I found a nice authority portal the other day, packed with useful news and information, links etc, looked to be perfect for links, but alas was a fee of $250 per year.
....now if it was £50 a year, I would have snapped it up fast. It has 63,555 links pointing to it - very impressive.
Money talks!
I found a nice authority portal the other day, packed with useful news and information, links etc, looked to be perfect for links, but alas was a fee of $250 per year.
....now if it was £50 a year, I would have snapped it up fast. It has 63,555 links pointing to it - very impressive.
Money talks!
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At this time there's likely 500'000 plus websites all selling links, what's Google going to do, throw them all out? That's like messing with potential paying adwords subscribers - half a million of em....
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Buying links is the future of seo
Buying links isn't SEO. It's simple marketing, you pay your money, you get your links, nothing clever no different to the good old marketing models of the past.
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Its not seo if you go by the google definition no. But in the shady society we live in , it is a part of seo.
If we take a look at the seomoz ranking factors they published recently. We can all agree seomoz is a credible source, and im sure we can all agree that the 72 people they tested will be of the same credibility.
Position 1 http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors is keyword anchor text from external links.
Creating content that is interesting enough for people to want to link to is a lot harder than researching around for links that you can tell will be value for money. Im not saying buying links is needed in all cases as it is clear that you can achieve a lot with onsite optimisation if you are in the know like yourself.
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Buying links is common place and may well be the future but it's not SEO by any definition I recognise. There is no 'optimisation' component to it, it's a straightforward financial transaction.
For those who support it the future looks expensive, for those who don't the future looks bleak, unless Google's PhD's find a solution.
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For those who support it the future looks expensive, for those who don't the future looks bleak, unless Google's PhD's find a solution.
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