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Dot Design

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I've come across a lot of forum members who seem to be hiding behind names that mean nothing and say nothing about them.

Now I can understand if you are currently in employment and are researching a new business venture in order to break away from that and become self employed. You wouldn't want your boss seeing posts on this forum with your name on.

But when it comes to people who already run a business, why not put yourself out there, business has changed it's more transparent. In all honesty hiding behind a meaningless name or avatar makes you blend into the background. I'm a human being you can even ring me up and talk to me (shock horror) :)

People relate to people so why not reveal yourself?
 

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I've come across a lot of forum members who seem to be hiding behind names that mean nothing and say nothing about them.

Now I can understand if you are currently in employment and are researching a new business venture in order to break away from that and become self employed. You wouldn't want your boss seeing posts on this forum with your name on.

But when it comes to people who already run a business, why not put yourself out there, business has changed it's more transparent. In all honesty hiding behind a meaningless name or avatar makes you blend into the background. I'm a human being you can even ring me up and talk to me (shock horror) :)

People relate to people so why not reveal yourself?

We are not all here to promote our own businesses!

The obvious answer is that much of the information is of enormous use to the competition when they can link it to a particular business!

And you would never be able to post any questions relating to your staff, redundancy, gross misconduct etc.
 
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I said this on another thread, but I'll say it again as it's very relevant.

I come here for a bit on banter and to offer advice if I'm able. However I have no desire to promote myself or my businesses here hence I just choose the "no publicity" option.

I have given my details to members via PM where it was appropriate, and as I have nothing to hide I'm more than happy to provide my details should someone ask (providing they not appear "disturbed" which does rule out many UKBF members!).
 
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We are not all here to promote our own businesses!

The obvious answer is that much of the information is of enormous use to the competition when they can link it to a particular business!

And you would never be able to post any questions relating to your staff, redundancy, gross misconduct etc.

I don't try to promote my business on here in any way, I just like accountability. I use my business name and have posted my real name several times.
 
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Dot Design

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We are not all here to promote our own businesses!

The obvious answer is that much of the information is of enormous use to the competition when they can link it to a particular business!

And you would never be able to post any questions relating to your staff, redundancy, gross misconduct etc.

Good point, I still feel there are a lot of people who don't sit in this camp, who just love hiding and sniping unhelpful comments.
 
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Good point, I still feel there are a lot of people who don't sit in this camp, who just love hiding and sniping unhelpful comments.



I hate people who do that.










nearly as much as people who start a fight when they dont like the advice then run to the mods, bleating.

same as Drpepper - most real posters know who I am by now.
 
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I don't think it matters at all what name you use. It's the standard of your comments which people judge you on.
My personal view is:
I have no wish to make contact with any member outside of this forum.
I have no wish to do business with any member of this forum.
I have no wish to give out my name and address on a forum.
I use the forum for what it was intended - quote from top of page General business discussion, advice and assistance .
Perhaps the dishonest and shifty ones 'hiding' amongst us are the types who continually use the forum to promote their insignificant enterprise to the rest of us who just want business discussion, advice and assistance
 
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I've come across a lot of forum members who seem to be hiding behind names that mean nothing and say nothing about them.

Now I can understand if you are currently in employment and are researching a new business venture in order to break away from that and become self employed. You wouldn't want your boss seeing posts on this forum with your name on.

But when it comes to people who already run a business, why not put yourself out there, business has changed it's more transparent. In all honesty hiding behind a meaningless name or avatar makes you blend into the background. I'm a human being you can even ring me up and talk to me (shock horror) :)

People relate to people so why not reveal yourself?

This is typical of someone that attends 4Networing meetings.

Being transparent is good to a certain extent, but discussing all your business dealings in a public forum is taking it too far. I'm not saying that you necessarily do this, but many 4N members do - I've seen it time and time again.

I refuse to do business with anyone that is part of this strange 4N cult. News flash - there is more to business than just 4N.

There are a number of reasons why people don't want to reveal who they are / what businesses they have interests in. Just because I won't tell you what colour underwear I'm wearing today, doesn't mean I'm trying to hide.
 
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Primarily I use this forum as a form of entertainment, I'm not trivialising the content of this website or other individual's reasons for coming here, just being honest.

I come here in the hope that I can help people out from time to time and maybe even learn a few things I didn't know before. For me this is a living and breathing industry wide business magazine.

I don't come here to promote myself or my business and for that reason I remain anonymous to the masses and known the the few.
 
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This is typical of someone that attends 4Networing meetings.

Being transparent is good to a certain extent, but discussing all your business dealings in a public forum is taking it too far. I'm not saying that you necessarily do this, but many 4N members do - I've seen it time and time again.

I refuse to do business with anyone that is part of this strange 4N cult. News flash - there is more to business than just 4N.

There are a number of reasons why people don't want to reveal who they are / what businesses they have interests in. Just because I won't tell you what colour underwear I'm wearing today, doesn't mean I'm trying to hide.

Ive been a member for two years I dont share Gareths views entirely and i've never had to dance the funky chicken or worship an alien it would be good if you could clear some of this cult business up
 
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I choose names which relate to the product I am selling because then when people see me for the first time, they get an instant idea of what I am about or they look into it for clarification.

In this instance it is thefore useless for me to use 'my name' as a user name on any forum. I am afterall...no one ;)

Most networking sites I join I tend to have the words 'cartoonist Uk' in the user name somewhere.

I chose 'unique gift' because I thought I'd be going more into the 'unique gift' type market with the cartoons but thus far most clients have been business clients.

I can't change it again though...it's been changed before.
 
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I think there are good reasons mentioned for those "hiding", and there should be no reason to question their decision. I don’t hide as a large part of my contributions are commenting on law, and I think it’s useful for readers to know where that advice is coming from – after all, anyone could (and does) pretend to be someone they’re not...


I briefly joined the MSE forums, following on a post on here. The clique that exists there couldn’t wait to point out that I wasn’t allowed to use my business name (the same name I use on all forums; oops, I concede I hadn’t read the rules carefully enough when signing up), and they were no happier (even though I approved it with the mods) when I changed it to my own name.

Many of the users on there were entirely uninterested in the fact that I had exposed one of their established members that posted regularly in the legal section (with dreadful advice apparently often being acted on); she claimed to be an employment law barrister, but nonetheless hid her true identity. As I established, proved, & pointed out, she didn’t know the first thing about employment law though, but a majority (certainly not all) preferred to try to bully me rather than have someone that had the audacity to be open about who I was in providing advice that would have helped the users on there. (I had not the slightest interest in their custom, as I try to maintain an employer-only customer base, but that wasn’t of concern to them.)


For many (albeit perhaps not all) of the established members on here, I have no doubt about their experience in their field, and I respect the advice they offer regardless of whether they choose to hide their identity.

I use the forum for what it was intended - quote from top of page General business discussion, advice and assistance .
Perhaps the dishonest and shifty ones 'hiding' amongst us are the types who continually use the forum to promote their insignificant enterprise to the rest of us who just want business discussion, advice and assistance

Actually if you click on the rules link at the top of all pages, you’ll find it states
Here you'll find like-minded members dedicated to helping each other solve business problems, find new suppliers, win new customers, share experiences and practical advice.
And it goes on to mention that
This forum exists to facilitate networking, support and the sharing of advice amongst its members – you make UKBF what it is, and at all times, please feel free to use the Feedback forum to tell us what you don't like, why, and how you think UKBF could be improved.
I’ve found new suppliers & won new customers from UKBF, as well as getting useful advice & assistance; rather than continually promote insignificant enterprises, I find most members use it in the spirit its intended, and if they gain the benefits that come from networking as a side-effect, I think that’s a good thing for them – make a genuine contribution, and get something back for that.


Personally though, my purpose in posting on this forum is not to promote an insignificant enterprise, but to provide the advice & assistance that I can. Just about anything I provide (and I suppose it goes for most of us) is available to anyone that cares to look, but as those with the knowledge in the respective field can offer/reference it much easier, I do.

As much as practically possible though, I avoid those ghastly "please PM me" replies, and I certainly never follow what bloody frustrates me about the 4N forum: post #1: "I need help/advice"; post#2: "nice talking to you". What use is that to anyone else searching the forums for a similar problem? I think hiding the advice behind PMs/phone calls/etc is a much bigger issue than hiding people’s real identities! (Gareth, if you are inclined to raise this point on 4N, I would welcome a PM, as I'm not active on that forum for this very reason.)



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'Beachcomber' isn't strickly anonymous as it relates to a sidelide I had on the go when I signed up.

If my dealings here were business to business / business to customer trade then I'd use my company name, but as it's more a social / professional mix then a non-descript user name allows you to give advice / comment freely without any personal views reflacting badly on your business.

Typical example - the various religious threads in the Time Out forum. You might want to make comments in those threads that are your own personal views but you do not want them to be perceived as the views of your entire company.
 
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Something like that..... ;)

I am actually a full-time athlete trying my hand at anything I can to earn me money. 4 jobs in 3 different industries! I might try that doctor thing though! :D

You would get on well with another member, Jason Fisher. His daily life consists of a half marathon in the morning followed by ludicrous ideas for his next business (ad)venture.
 
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Hehe, great thread.

I'm not actively hiding, plenty of guys and gals have my contact details. I'm with the guys who like to be able to ask questions and offer more frank advice that I would be able to if I was wearing my corporate hat.

As someone said also - I'm not here to actively tout for business.

Make sense?
 
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But your here to spam everyone to death with your sig of course you want to be easily reached!

Some of us perhaps sell something that none of you are likely to buy and it serves no real purpose to tell the world about what we do and ask some daft questions about!
 
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Well I'm on here as Movietub - even though the 'Movie Tub' is the smallest division of my business.

But it's also the sexiest bit, and theirin lies your answer. We don't hide, we pimp it up to make ourselves sound cooler and more interesting than we really are.

Except the accountants. These people have no imagination and normally just use their business or personal name. And they all have silly names, just like solicitors. For example, personal name 'Markus Fount' or 'Patrick Cuckit' Business name 'Cuckit & Fount'. No imagination or humour at all...
 
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