Anyone feeling creative, brand name needed!

mattley23

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Also, followiong on from my post ^^^^, which for some reason i cant edit??

Take these few brands, id say currently within the top 15 sold around the world:

Hayabusa Fightwear
SilverStar
Caged Steel
Bad Breed
Warrior Inc.

None of those names would really be associated with martal arts as a direct keyword search Yet are bestsellers.

You have on the other hand got top global brands who do have brand names that are easily linked with MMA and martial arts such as:

Full Contact Fighter
TapOut
Takedown Fightwear
Toe 2 Toe

Its about matching fight orientated words with a type of gang culture association to the sport to get the right name. And because name is everthink this is why its taking a while (and a long thread) to try and pick the right one
 
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The problem you have got here is that you are thinking for some very strange reason that the name itself is what makes these brands the success that they are in the world.

The name is just a small part of it. So as long as the name is OK and you throw a big bag a cash behind smart advertising and brand positioning you can pretty much use any name you like. I get the impression that once you get the name sorted your brand will be established and competeting. It won't be.
 
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Was not a crticism Mattley - just a comment.

BTW. Has anyone mentioned GLADIATOR yet. That was a worldwide success and got a cult following.

Then again if your really wanted to specialise how about WUNG-UN- LO

Pronounceed ONE-HUNG-LOW bound to be a hit for warriors with droopy tackle boxes or a hernia.:eek:
 
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No i didnt say they were my top 3, merely 3 more that id come up with.

Picking names purely for SEO searches isnt my game and definately wont work, the name of the brand has to have an association with the product its representing and industry its trading within.

Because it a name of a clothing line that is going to speak to a certain type of customer it has to have a credence with its audience and not come across 'commercialised' or 'fake'.

I suppose trying to explain this to someone who isnt familar with the scene is very hard as you may not undertand the relevance of the impact the name will have. But suffice to say that if the brand name isnt right the produce wont sell, people wont wear a brand that doesnt 'speak to them' and represent what they are about.

Intresting, you presume to know so much about me?

I have studied Karate and kick boxing

I bought the uniforms for both and I can tell you I don't give a flying fig what the brand names were as long as the clothing was good quality, standard and looked darn good on me.

Meanwhile if you knew something about marketing and ecommerce, you'd know a name that is also a highly searched keyword phrase is a great way to draw in high volume traffic which IS the bottom line.

Making sales and hence profit is the name of the game, not having a swanky name.

Dogi = karate uniform and is also a highly searched phrase. That would be my option if it were me.

Meanwhile if

alliance, federation and clitoris or whatever it was you suggested aren't 'fake' sounding, I don't know what is. :)
 
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mattley23

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Intresting, you presume to know so much about me?

I have studied Karate and kick boxing

I bought the uniforms for both and I can tell you I don't give a flying fig what the brand names were as long as the clothing was good quality, standard and looked darn good on me.

Meanwhile if you knew something about marketing and ecommerce, you'd know a name that is also a highly searched keyword phrase is a great way to draw in high volume traffic which IS the bottom line.

Making sales and hence profit is the name of the game, not having a swanky name.

Dogi = karate uniform and is also a highly searched phrase. That would be my option if it were me.

Meanwhile if

alliance, federation and clitoris or whatever it was you suggested aren't 'fake' sounding, I don't know what is. :)

lol, now now lets not get touchy just because i made a sweeping comment about knowledge!! The statement wasnt actually aimed at you directly, just a generalised comment aimed at people who arent familiar with the industry and wasnt meant to be a dig at all ;) Was just trying to make an excuse for my poor explaination of the 'scene' to people who might not know much about it and are trying to help!!

The reason Alliance, Federation etc were mentioned was because of the way he wants to develop this brand and take into the fight scene. He eventually wants to have a sponsored fight team with varying styles of TMA and MMA so the name was hopfully going to reflect a 'team, group, gang' mentality.

However your suggestion of clitoris fightwear might be a good one *yawn*!! But in all seriousness i did actually like the word Dogi, even if in the West we actually call it simply a Gi. However it sounds too much like Dogie and people might mistake the business for a dog business lol!!

Like ive said in my past posts, i agree with what your saying about choosing a name that is very search engine friendly and is a high searched keyword and ive already stated that this is being taken into consideration. However you also have to give it to me in regards to my reference to other global brands who picked their names NOT based on keyword popularity. I mean do you associate the word Hayabusa with mixed martial arts or TMA??? no......yet they are probabaly one of the biggest names in fight orientated leisurewear turning over millions a year.

I think Simon-M brings a very valid comment to the table, the actual name is a relatively small part to the brand (and dont forget its not me strating this business im just trying to help a friend out). Even if the name has to set a tone with the people who will wear it, its the designs carried on the garments and also the quality of garments that will have a bigger imapct on sales.

I think if money was no object then the name might not be such an important issue, however due to working capitol being relatively small i think this is the reason more focus has been put on getting the name spot on, which you cant really blame my friend for.

I get the impression that once you get the name sorted your brand will be established and competeting. It won't be.
Far from it Simon-M, ive actually set up and ran a brand new clothing brand before so know all to well the issues involoved hence me getting involved and helping with the set up of this brand. But thanks for the warning
 
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mattley23

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I bought the uniforms for both and I can tell you I don't give a flying fig what the brand names were as long as the clothing was good quality, standard and looked darn good on me.
sorry i forgot to mention something in my last post and cant seem to edit it now.

Can i make this clear...again, the brand isnt going to be manufacturing or selling TMA or MMA training gear/equipment, this is completely different to fight orientated leisurewear, unless you actually wore your Gi when popping to the pub that is??.

Majority of martial artists i know dont care what their unifom is like just that its comfortable and wearing so i agree with you there. However, what clothing they wear on the street is more of a lifestyle choice and there are millions of people that will wear certain brands because of that lifestyle choice.

This lifestyle choice also means they wont wear certain brand names too. Take Burberry for example, the once classy brand turned to sh*t by the chav nation, and how many people wont wear the brand because of what it seems to represent even though its in the same bracket as massive designer brands like of French Connection, FireTrap, Armani etc??
 
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