Any ideas how to prompt Google to re-crawl your site?

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Hi all,
Looking for some advice please. I have made some changes to the pages of my website (titles, descriptions and keywords updated) and wondered if anyone knew when Google might re-crawl my site? I tried through Google analytic to get it to "fetch" the page again in the hope that i could give it a nudge to but no joy.Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance for the advice.
Laura
 

Alan

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    Health > Fetch as Google > FETCH

    'fetch status' will go 'pending', when it becomes 'success' - hit <submit to index> button

    in the pop up
    select the unselected radio button - URL and all linked pages
    and hit OK
     
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    What incentive are you giving google to revisit the site?

    Are you creating new pages, adding images, rewriting content and so on. Google will reindex when it knows there is value added. All the WMT things does is let Google know you are waiting, it doesn't mean Google has to take any notice...
     
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    Alan

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    Whilst you are right, google can do what it likes, personally I normally can get a new post indexed in about 3 minutes using GWMT technique as opposed to an average of 8 hours.

    Google restrict the number of submissions with GWMT to 10 a month, there is a reason for that, in my opinion, because it generally does seem effective it would get abused if no limit was set.

    Changes to meta tags (titles description ) on pages that are already there seem to take on average 2 weeks to flush through. Thats why I asked how long has the OP been waiting, if it is lwesss than 2 weeks, I would recommend waiting.
     
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    It takes Google about 15 minutes to index a new post without WMT...

    Google likes new content to crawl. Pages titles and other metas are probably lower down the list than a picture of some celebs new dress.

    OP, put a picture of a kitten on the site. Google likes kittens. And no, this isn't a joke. If you add something to the site that adds value then there is an incentive for them to visit.
     
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    Hi all,
    Looking for some advice please. I have made some changes to the pages of my website (titles, descriptions and keywords updated) and wondered if anyone knew when Google might re-crawl my site? I tried through Google analytic to get it to "fetch" the page again in the hope that i could give it a nudge to but no joy.Any ideas anyone?
    Thanks in advance for the advice.
    Laura

    I wouldn't get too concerned with this, Google will recrawl it in time.

    However use fetch ONLY if you have made major changes as it will have a negative effect.

    You got any evidence to back up such a claim? Thought not because clearly it won't have a negative effect.
     
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    Dear John - if you ask a question - dont answer for me - If you did research you will find that Google actually tell you that (they ignore your fetch). Please read up on it.

    You got any evidence to back up such a claim? Thought not because clearly it won't have a negative effect.

    @llocally - yes that is spot on - I always do a 4 week cycle now (going off Google map turn around)
     
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    I have experienced this with over zealous use of fetch on two websites.
    It took 8 weeks for sites to achieve a similar result with sites which fetch was only used once. (similar non competitive)
    after speaking with a few other "credible" "respectable" and "authoritative" internet marketing guys (who i have built up relationships with and exchanged knowledge) we (not I) concluded that over use caused your account to be classed as spamming.

    You can feel free to carry on what you are doing JohnathanSEO - My advice is to only use fetch on a new page or if you have done major changes.


    Show me an example of the negative effect of using Fetch as Google. Or the article where you got this from.
     
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    I have experienced this with over zealous use of fetch on two websites.
    It took 8 weeks for sites to achieve a similar result with sites which fetch was only used once. (similar non competitive)
    after speaking with a few other "credible" "respectable" and "authoritative" internet marketing guys (who i have built up relationships with and exchanged knowledge) we (not I) concluded that over use caused your account to be classed as spamming.

    You can't over use the tool because it's usage is capped. You can only submit 10 URL's to the index per month. Clearly your "credible", "respectable" and "authoritative" internet marketing guys have lead you up the garden path with that one.

    The whole concept of the tool is to see how Google views your site.

    You can feel free to carry on what you are doing JonathanSEO - My advice is to only use fetch on a new page or if you have done major changes.

    Carry on doing what? I use fetch as Google as a diagnostic tool. Not as an indexation tool. It seems people think it's main use it to submit URL's to Google, it's not, it's use to spot crawlability or other issues such as hacked sites.

    If you have to rely on fetch as Google to index your site then you're doing it wrong.
     
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    What part of "You can only submit 10 URL's to the index per month" is wrong then?

    It its not wrong at all, then it seems a bit silly to say you can over use it, if you stick within their own preset limits surely...
     
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    you presume too much and assume in equal amounts - as I said feel free to continue. I will stick by the advice I gave.
    By the way when you use fetch it only adjust the preview you still have the same cache date and page (or had you not noticed that).

    Fetch as Google is a real time system. The minute you hit fetch, Google tells you what it sees on that page. So if you've just discovered that a dodgy wordpress plugin is injecting links to dodgy sites and you want to check that you have removed it, you could use fetch as Google to see what Googlebot now sees.

    Not sure what you mean about cache date and page. If you mean does Google update it's own index when you hit fetch, then no, because that's not a real time system.

    As I said previously, I think you are confused as to what the Fetch as Google tool is actually for.
     
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