Am I on to a winner?

[simplesimon86]

I have just achieved a patent - would just like to see others thoughts whether i should pursue it further.....

these days cars have GPS trackers fitted in the event they are stolen, right?

i have developed a micro chip that emits a gps signal - now my idea is to install these into high end electrical goods and watches etc etc

think about it that huge plasma TV that can cost upto £15k these days - which if stolen could only be retrieved once the police have found it....if they do.

the same for watches...a rolex is how much?? again the owner will only get it back if the police find it?

yay or nay - what do you think?

 

[smo]

You have a patent for this already, and the product (chip) is in existance??

 

[simplesimon86]

yep have a tested and proven prototype - ready to be manufactured if chosen to.

the concept and technology are both patented to stop others using the same idea with slightly different technology

 

[firstmarket]

yep have a tested and proven prototype - ready to be manufactured if chosen to.

the concept and technology are both patented to stop others using the same idea with slightly different technology

Well done on achieving the patent - A minefield in itself

I like the sound of this, I bring new inventions to market. Do you have an indication of the associated costs of producing this product on a decent scale and more importantly how wide is the patent protection.

 

[vvaannmmaann]

Have you ever seen inside a Rolex watch? Not that much spare room in there.
Likewise what will stop a villain from taking the back off and removing it?
Will you be supplying every police station,HMRC and Border Agency office with a detection device?

 

[Multi-store]

Sounds ok,

Like vanman says there aint no space inside a watch for dust, let alone a microchip

other thing is I've never seen a TV for 15K - maybe in the "footballers only" shop that us normals cant see without special vision.

it would have to be cheap enough for people to buy one to go with everything, but again you have the problems of space.

Id buy one for a Playstation 3, that'd have space. But if it was more than £1.99 it wouldn't be worth it, it hasn't been stolen after 6 years so im not too worried.........

 

[Barnie]

could work but need more info on the device, how do you recieve a signal or who receives it.

also gps sucks juice so watches may be a bit of a struggle

 

[Psl]

I think it is a great idea. Next step contact LG or Apple? or even Arm Technology to talk about a licensing deal?

 

[simplesimon86]

Have you ever seen inside a Rolex watch? Not that much spare room in there.
Likewise what will stop a villain from taking the back off and removing it?
Will you be supplying every police station,HMRC and Border Agency office with a detection device?

your missing the point - it has a tracker- so the customer or police informs us its missing - we then find its location using GPS and inform the police

 

[simplesimon86]

could work but need more info on the device, how do you recieve a signal or who receives it.

also gps sucks juice so watches may be a bit of a struggle

thats why this is so unique -

it has technology to get round this issue

 

[simplesimon86]

Sounds ok,

Like vanman says there aint no space inside a watch for dust, let alone a microchip

other thing is I've never seen a TV for 15K - maybe in the "footballers only" shop that us normals cant see without special vision.

it would have to be cheap enough for people to buy one to go with everything, but again you have the problems of space.

Id buy one for a Playstation 3, that'd have space. But if it was more than £1.99 it wouldn't be worth it, it hasn't been stolen after 6 years so im not too worried.........

it will be aimed at the high end market aka rich gits

space isnt an issue.

 

[Posilan]

I have just achieved a patent - would just like to see others thoughts whether i should pursue it further.....

these days cars have GPS trackers fitted in the event they are stolen, right?

i have developed a micro chip that emits a gps signal - now my idea is to install these into high end electrical goods and watches etc etc

think about it that huge plasma TV that can cost upto £15k these days - which if stolen could only be retrieved once the police have found it....if they do.

the same for watches...a rolex is how much?? again the owner will only get it back if the police find it?

yay or nay - what do you think?

Just a thought - don't GPS tracking devices generally require line of sight to the sky?

Also, surely such a chip would emit a tracking signal not a GPS signal (that would be the job of the Global Positioning Satellites themselves).

Steve

 

[simplesimon86]

Well done on achieving the patent - A minefield in itself

I like the sound of this, I bring new inventions to market. Do you have an indication of the associated costs of producing this product on a decent scale and more importantly how wide is the patent protection.

fairly wide - it stops anyone using the same idea in the same products or even using different technology to conclude the same solution.

its mine and no one else can do it really.

id be interested to speak to you, please om me

 

[Barnie]

thats why this is so unique -

it has technology to get round this issue

who recieves the signal

mobile phones would advantage from this.

 

[popunder]

A GPS in a single chip? What is the power source? What's the patent number so we can check this astonishing device?

Currently the smallest GPS device in the world is the size of a box of matches; one built into a microchip would be an amazing product indeed.

 

[Spearmint]

Congratulations on being successful with your patent, and for such a good invention.

It sounds like there could be an opportunity in the near future for another business as well once your product takes off, for its going to need a dedicated Police force/security company to pursue all of the stolen goods that you eventually tag!

So, have you got any companies interested in it?

How does its price compare with the vehicle tracking systems that are available?

Is it a one off payment or do your customers pay for the monitoring service?

 

[vvaannmmaann]

Is it April the first already?

 

[giffgore]

This could work. Smartphones already have apps built in which use the GPS to let users log in and track them. Doing this for other gadgets, especially with a patent and a prototype, looks like a winner to me.

 

[firstmarket]

There seems to be a lot of negativity surrounding this post. Patents are very complicated things and also vulnerable to challenge especially in the technology sector.

It would be interesting to see the patent (it would save you a considerable time explaining it on the forum)

My initial concern is you're using the same tracking that is used in cars/vans and as a result issues may arise surrounding that.

I'd follow up on PSL's comment and say a licencing deal is the safest option for you.

There are some patent chaps on here that occasionally pop their head in that will be able to advise further regarding the potential legal pitfalls.

Personally I can see a market for it as long as all the patents hold up.
Good luck

 

[WHARTY]

If they are small enough and cheap enough then stick em in Sofa's, Bed mattresses and tyres least then when somebody fly tips the police will know who bought the thing in the first place and trace the person who dumped it.

 

[Floyd Pink]

If they are small enough and cheap enough then stick em in Sofa's, Bed mattresses and tyres least then when somebody fly tips the police will know who bought the thing in the first place and trace the person who dumped it.

Now that is a great idea.

 

[smo]

I know exactly the market this should be used for, myself and my dad have been discussing this for years now but neither of us are rich enough to pay for development, nor have the expertise to do it ourselves but IF this is genuine and it really works there is a huge market waiting to be snaffled up.

 

[Floyd Pink]

I know exactly the market this should be used for, myself and my dad have been discussing this for years now but neither of us are rich enough to pay for development, nor have the expertise to do it ourselves but IF this is genuine and it really works there is a huge market waiting to be snaffled up.

I would like to put it into my children's clothing, schoolbags etc. Should the worse thing happen, the Police have a head start.

Although I'm quite sure this would break the human rights laws/rules/regs etc.

 

[smo]

I would like to put it into my children's clothing, schoolbags etc. Should the worse thing happen, the Police have a head start.

Although I'm quite sure this would break the human rights laws/rules/regs etc.

lol - its not that I had in mind although its not a bad idea, that said ther are times I wish my daughter wasnt findable!! (I love her really)

 

[voyage]

Surgically implant them into criminals?
Kinda like the tag but a lot better according to your claims

 

[WHARTY]

Now that is a great idea.

Why thank you!

To be honest i had the idea several years ago after getting fed up of things being dumped in the country lanes where i live, but i never followed it up!

For beds etc you wouldn't need the GPS part, it would only need to be a chip with the contact details of the original owner on and where it was bought from. This could be scanned on to the chip at the point of sale some how.

Would make sure there were no metal parts too, so nobody could use a metal detector or something to find it before they dumped it.

 

[solarman]

is the chip a passive device which doesn't need to be powered?Or is it a sim card type chip that needs to be put in a powered product rather like the mobile phones and other devices?If the chip doesn't need power then it would be perfect for many applications.
Is there a link to your patent i would like to see this also.

 

[Ben8472]

How would you receive the location data?

GPS satellites do not provide any tracking capability, they just transmit a signal, there is no two way capability. GPS receivers work out their own location by calculating signal strengths from various satellites...

So the chip knowing its own location is useless unless it is able to transmit that location to a remote server somehow in order for you to be able to track it and provide that information to the owner/police.

How did you achieve this? Did you managed to put a 2G/3G transceiver in the chip as well? In which case where does the antenna go and who pays for the data usage? Not to mention the power requirements of both the GPS and data connection?

Interested in knowing more but at this point a tad sceptical - sorry to say


Ben

 

[simplesimon86]

as usual - lots of negativity around lol.

all i wanted to find out is if there is a market - and by the sounds of it - there COULD be huge potential.

i dont think i will aim this product toward being put into sofas etc - dont get me wrong - it will not be cheap hence why i plan to aim this at the high end market for very vaulable products.

the user - or company will pay a one off fee for the device / technology and also a small subcription fee per month / annum.

a third party security company may be used to track devices as and when needed. i.e when something is nicked !

or the computer programme along with bulk bought devices may be sold to companies - to then put into their own products.

its early in the process - ill be back to report!

p.s lots of etchy mumbo jumbo being asked - ill get my techy guy on here to answer questions if needed

 

[Posilan]

as usual - lots of negativity around lol.

Easiest way to solve that is to post the patent number?

Steve

 

[simplesimon86]

Easiest way to solve that is to post the patent number?

Steve

couldnt give 2 hoots whether the concept is believed or not - just wanted to see market potential

 

[Posilan]

couldnt give 2 hoots whether the concept is believed or not - just wanted to see market potential

Sure there would be market potiential, but there would also be for these

 

[simplesimon86]

Sure there would be market potiential, but there would also be for these

what the hell is that?!!

 

[Posilan]

what the hell is that?!!

Tsk - the youth of today

http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Hydrator

Steve

 

[simplesimon86]

Tsk - the youth of today

http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Hydrator

Steve

ah ha!! noiw i remember - well....id buy one!:redface:

 

[Moneyman]

If it is as brilliant as you say I might be able to help you get it to market.

 

[simplesimon86]

If it is as brilliant as you say I might be able to help you get it to market.

if this is meant to make me go 'well it is and i will show you and you can help' isnt going to work - if YOU think that YOU CAN help this to market then Pm me - im not one for reverse psychology

 

[Moneyman]

I am not offering a service. I simply invest in companies and assist them with high grade management etc if needed.

 

[Banned]

This is getting tiresome now. You have a self-proclaimed great product. All patented and ready to go and you want to know if it's a winner.

Well until you give us the exact details, or even better that elusive patent numbers, no one can say. At the moment all you have described it technology that doesn't exist as far as we know.

Why not give up the patent number, we can't steal the technology as I presume that is what the patent protects.

 

[JDX_John]

So what's the reason for not telling us the patent number?

Personally I don't see the great practical benefit though from a nerd perspective it's very cool.