Am I on to a winner?

I would be interested to see the patent too and see how you are achieving this in something that conceptually could be retro fitted inside a watch. I used to work in product development for military data acquisition, sensors etc so know most of the technology available.

A few assumptions that would answer some of the questions posted:

1. The device doesn't continually transmit its location via GPS, that would use a lot of battery power as mentioned. It's not a Sat Nav. It sits in a very low power 'receive mode' waiting for an instruction to wake up and transmit.

2. It doesn't need to transmit often to track down, the closer you get the more you request a position.

3. High value items depreciate fast, it is only likely to be worthwhile for the first few years of service. This is much more feasible now in terms of 'lifetime operation'.

4. Alternatively the value of the product would justify having it serviced at certain intervals, such as a watch, the cost/scope of this could be incorporated into the maintenance cycle.

5. There are power harvesters available, although the output is low they can supplement a very low power microprocessor requirement well when there is physical movement/vibration or regular temperature changes

Main flaw, you cannot reliably transmit/receive GPS data indoors.

I would be interested to know:

1. Does it use power harvesting (not readily available last time I was working on this stuff) or just good battery management and low power design?

2. Is it designed to work indoors (even if you won't say how)?
 
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Oi banned now you are getting picky.
If he can have one on a chip that lasts 20 times longer and is 10 times smaller than the current devices then he is onto a winner. There are millions of uses and hundreds of people who have been trying to build such a thing. He is lucky to have pulled off the holy grail.....i am a little sceptical to say the least.
but to sell a dedicated chip is probably the wrong way to go about it as there are so many variations needed. the suggestion of liscencing the technology is the better one.
 
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I would be interested to see the patent too and see how you are achieving this in something that conceptually could be retro fitted inside a watch. I used to work in product development for military data acquisition, sensors etc so know most of the technology available.

A few assumptions that would answer some of the questions posted:

1. The device doesn't continually transmit its location via GPS, that would use a lot of battery power as mentioned. It's not a Sat Nav. It sits in a very low power 'receive mode' waiting for an instruction to wake up and transmit.

2. It doesn't need to transmit often to track down, the closer you get the more you request a position.

3. High value items depreciate fast, it is only likely to be worthwhile for the first few years of service. This is much more feasible now in terms of 'lifetime operation'.

4. Alternatively the value of the product would justify having it serviced at certain intervals, such as a watch, the cost/scope of this could be incorporated into the maintenance cycle.

5. There are power harvesters available, although the output is low they can supplement a very low power microprocessor requirement well when there is physical movement/vibration or regular temperature changes

Main flaw, you cannot reliably transmit/receive GPS data indoors.

I would be interested to know:

1. Does it use power harvesting (not readily available last time I was working on this stuff) or just good battery management and low power design?

2. Is it designed to work indoors (even if you won't say how)?


Please pm me some details and we can chat?
 
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The military and the security services have been using tracking devices for years. Some are very small but none that I have seen that could get in a watch or anywhere near it.

As most if this tech has already been invented and sold and is in the market I would imagine that a patent conflict is going to ensue.

Market is potentially huge though so if you have done your homework good luck.
 
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Oi banned now you are getting picky.

This is why it's better never to lie or exaggerate. As they say the devil is in the detail. And if your making it up as you go along you leave a wake of inaccuracies and contradictions.

All of which I'm happy to point out :p

Until he provides the illusive patent of course, at which point I'll unreservedly apologise and admit I'm a plonker.
 
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banned, i see no reason to realease the patent number - when im happy with the development then i will, i thought it was ready but after reading others comments - there are other areas to explore and improve upon.

why?

because, what if i realease it - and some boffin out there see's a loophole for another idea that i have not yet included within in it?

or see's a gateway to do the same thing or similiar?

im not happy to at the moment.

jibe, jeer, take the piss all you want - i really dont care
 
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banned, i see no reason to realease the patent number - when im happy with the development then i will, i thought it was ready but after reading others comments - there are other areas to explore and improve upon.

why?

because, what if i realease it - and some boffin out there see's a loophole for another idea that i have not yet included within in it?

or see's a gateway to do the same thing or similiar?

im not happy to at the moment.

jibe, jeer, take the piss all you want - i really dont care

So you will be seeking a new patent for the changes then (I believe you can't "add to" an existing patent)? Isn't that going to be costly and time consuming?
 
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So you will be seeking a new patent for the changes then? Isn't that going to be costly and time consuming?


could be - depends on whether changes are viable to explore.

or whether other areas are already covered by the patent.

some ideas been posted on here worth looking into - and unsure whether they would be covered under the current patent - so even if i dont want to go into that area - i may still apply the patent - to form a 'monopoly'

so that others would like to do that - they would need to buy the rights to do so from me / us.
 
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So that's another four years or so before you can consider launching anything.

Come back then with the patent number, ta.


well, although you have been a pain in the arse - you have at least in some way given advice.


and erm no,if i feel the need to report back here, i will thank you.

its your choice as to whether you read it. ta
 
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I've found several patents for microchip gps trackers and variations thereof. As mentioned by another poster, I can see some challenges to this.

as the other poster indicated they cant find one.

probably has something to do with that it was granted this morning.......i dont know but may take a while to update the database?? ooo im just guessing
 
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Simon i,m not critisizing your idea or anything but can you tell us why your patent is better or unique in any way from other similar technology,does it have any outstanding feature or benefit other than being smal enough,or why would it be better than existing models,thanks,
Solarman.
As an example would it work below ground because if it did there would be lots of interest
in something that can rather than just tracking an item.
 
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great idea, but would the police initially back it and pay for all that running around ??

i personally would sell exclusive rights to a big company for a few years and then open it up to all companies.

Most definitely this would be the ideal way to move forward.

Sure, you may make a little less in the long run. What you do though (if done correctly) is keep ownership of your patent, whilst letting someone else who has the money and resources behind them push your invention out in to the wider domain.

You make a commission, plus you can only benefit from all the work they do prior to the end of the period of rights.

Good luck with it.
 
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just to update - looks as though selling the rights to a larger company is going to be the easisest and best way forward - even after selling the rights - the info i have been given is that i can write into the agreement that i can take a small proportion from each sale therafter too.

lets wait n see what the big boys say
 
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Don't worry here's another 2mins 50sec that you may find appropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU615FaODCg

What a fitting advert since we are in the subject! LOL

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i did the same when i looked at your website

that's a little personal since I have not said anything about you!

I was just stating wasting my time did not comment about anything to do with you!

I am not going to be drawn into childish games, takes me back to the Yahoo! chat days. Think you need to look back at some of your last comments before you go calling people tits.
 
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that's a little personal since I have not said anything about you!

I was just stating wasting my time did not comment about anything to do with you!

I am not going to be drawn into childish games, takes me back to the Yahoo! chat days. Think you need to look back at some of your last comments before you go calling people tits.
naaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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Someone mentioned mobile phones earlier. This has already been done. For example I can go to iCloud.com and instantly locate my iphone, lock it and display a message on the screen. A friend of mine left his phone in a taxi the other night when he was drunk and tracked it using a similar application. He turned up at the taxi drivers house the next morning, much to his surprise, and asked for his phone back. Which the taxi driver then pulled out of his pocket!

There are similar things available for cars. You see it all the time on those programs like watchdog and rogue traders when they are tracking fly tippers and airport car parking services etc... Loads here http://www.eyetek.co.uk/car-tracking

So what we are talking about is something that can be put in expensive TV's and watches. I guess this would really depend on the price of the device and service. I think most people who can afford a £15k TV will probably have some big gates and security cameras! But really I can't see people buying GPS trackers for their TV's on the off change that they are stolen. Wouldn't they be covered on house insurance anyway. As for watches... Hmm... maybe... If it was small enough, couldn't be removed and cheap enough. A watch is pretty hard to lose though, I mean it's strapped to your arm! I've worked in a pub for 7 years and nobody has ever lost their watch. Rings all the time - could it fit in a ring?
 
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