Set up a restaurant..?

[stiopa]

Hi everyone, i'm currently looking into the possibilities of starting a lunch restaurant and the fact that i may have to team up with someone to make this happen.
Myself i have an interesting idea and some knowledge about the market but i think what this needs would be someone with experiece and interest in food and restaurants. The idea would be about a busy lunch-style restaurant without rights in say a busy area like london. Mysef i'm living abroad at the moment, however i intend to come back in order to look into this.
If anyone finds this interesting or has any other opinions on this please drop me a line..

Kind Regards, stiopa

 

[sunnyzhao]

Selling only the lunch?

 

[stiopa]

Selling only the lunch?

Well, the main focus will be on the lunch and daytime since it's quite small and with limited seating. But it's not only the lunch, just a lunch-style restaurant. It's just not the place you go when you want dinner with wine.

Hope that answers your question, Stiopa

 

[gibby]

Im not saying it wont work but this is a very competitive market at the moment & the current financial situation is making it harder.

I know a few friends who have done really well over the last few years are finding it really tough.
they feel customers are taking packed lunches to work to save money & the evening trade has reduced by 50%. They have increased the early bird bookings but its not helping.

Business bookings have really dropped too for them.


G

 

[downsouth]

if you pick a copy of any of the freebie evening papers up in London you will see lots of the 'top' restuarants are offering serious deals to attract business,

Personally dont feel the time is right for business based on capturing the disposable income sector, if the big boys are cutting prices then ur hardly likely to have a unique selling point by just being cheaper than the others

 

[Cornish Steve]

Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Of that type? As a waiter? As a cook? Have you seen first-hand all the issue faced by the restaurant owner? For the restaurant industry, it's worth being able to answer each question positively. From what I've been told, owning a restaurant is not at all what you'd expect it to be.

 

[stiopa]

Im not saying it wont work but this is a very competitive market at the moment & the current financial situation is making it harder.

I know a few friends who have done really well over the last few years are finding it really tough.
they feel customers are taking packed lunches to work to save money & the evening trade has reduced by 50%. They have increased the early bird bookings but its not helping.

Business bookings have really dropped too for them.


G

Know what you're saying, business is hard for most people these days. Still there is also opportunities, say there's no worse time to open a restaurant than during a recession ok, but what better time to plan and set up a restaurant than during this time? And when the day comes and it changes you just open your doors. Setting up a restarant from scratch won't take just a few months anyway, which means that by the time everything is ready timing might be right.

At least that's the opinion of some of the people i've talked to who's job it is to advice on this.

As for steve. If you've read my first message you'd seen i was looking for someone to team up with. I could have been clearer here though. Must have forgotten this. The person i'm looking for is a chef. That is in fact the very reason I posted in the first place.

Myself I'm not a chef. But in order to make this happen i would need to find a partner who is. I've been in a similar environment in management for long time and thus have an insight in the day to day situations that occur. Believe that for a restaurant a good chef is #1 priority..

All the best

 

[shef26]

Hi everyone, i'm currently looking into the possibilities of starting a lunch restaurant and the fact that i may have to team up with someone to make this happen.
Myself i have an interesting idea and some knowledge about the market but i think what this needs would be someone with experiece and interest in food and restaurants. The idea would be about a busy lunch-style restaurant without rights in say a busy area like london. Mysef i'm living abroad at the moment, however i intend to come back in order to look into this.
If anyone finds this interesting or has any other opinions on this please drop me a line..

Kind Regards, stiopa

Hi Stiopa

I would like to suggest you something which could benefit your restaurant business remarkably. You can implement online food ordering software in your restaurant services. By making use of this software you can create a brand image of your restaurant in your customer's mind as you can provide them more faster and accurate services. You can try merosys.com They are the provider of a reliable and efficient online ordering software. Hope my suggestion could help you in your restaurant business.

 

[oldeagleeye]

First of you do not need a good chef. They are expensive and you wouldn't get one for a small operation anyway. Most work their way through the ranks in top class restaurants and hotels because they want the prestige of putting that on their CV.

You don't say what is in this for the partner you are seeking anyway. Only that you will have to 'team up with some' to make it happen. If that means that you have no money - then forget it. In fact I don't think that you have thought this through at all. A small sandwich bar in a busy part of London can cost anything from £50,000 - £100,000. As for any type of lunch bistro bar you need at least 40+ covers and about 3 sittings not just lunch to earn a basic living for one.

 

[Isabella_Smith]

Opening a resturant takes time, patience and plenty of work. Deadlines must be met, and your efforts must be set towards meeting your budget and creative specifications. But with the right planning, getting everything done in a timely manner can be accomplished with minimum frustration.

 

[stiopa]

Hi Stiopa

I would like to suggest you something which could benefit your restaurant business remarkably. You can implement online food ordering software in your restaurant services. By making use of this software you can create a brand image of your restaurant in your customer's mind as you can provide them more faster and accurate services. You can try merosys.com They are the provider of a reliable and efficient online ordering software. Hope my suggestion could help you in your restaurant business.

Hi Shef, I'll definately look this up.


"oldeagleeye" you must be joking. Setting up a restaurant without a good chef. You mean if I want to build a rocket I wont need someone who's good at rocket science..? Maybe if you know everything yourself you won't need this support but at least I don't so..

Opening a resturant takes time, patience and plenty of work. Deadlines must be met, and your efforts must be set towards meeting your budget and creative specifications. But with the right planning, getting everything done in a timely manner can be accomplished with minimum frustration.

It's definately a hard job from what I've heard. Think location may be one of the trickier parts as you say, getting the permissions and building. Probably a good idea to be prepared for the worst..

 

[imbbe]

Hi, Stiopa, I got the email alert from this web, but I did not see the chat that I posted. I would like to say; I love your idea to set up a restaurant, can we talk for detail? And what is the capital you are looking for? Tony

 

[westside]

Hello Stiopa! I'm interesting with your idea. I'm Sous Chef at that moment, used to be Head Chef in another country. You don't need VERY good Chef for your restaurant of this type. You need good organaiser and manager who can work fast and leed his team ( one or two chefs ). Where you from Russia? :| I have some ideas as well, so let me know please. Thanks!

 

[imbbe]

Is it a good idea to have few people joint this business as partnership for the capital?Then have someone to manage this restaurant?

 

[shef26]

Hi Shef, I'll definately look this up.

Hi Stiopa

Did you look upon my suggestion?

 

[sara_criss]

what i think ......u have to face a lot competition .......i mean .....i am not saying that u should not go for it ......but u have to show patience ......good marketing ,and good location will gives a lot of benefit in this kind of business ........

 

[Chris Kaday]

I set up my business in a recession so not daunted by the ecconomic climate but a restaurant in 2009 - never. If ever there was an overcrowded market it is catering - hold on to your cash - sorry
Chris Kaday
Business coach and mentor

 

[tony84]

I have thought about a good idea for this.
I work in Manchester town centre. There is a cafe in our work which is semi healthy but they are a bit tight with the portions for the price. If i choose to go out at dinner i have the choice of cafe's, chippys, KFC and Mcdonalds etc
The healthiest choice i have is either a pub lunch but there are none close by or Subway - which isnt ideal.

There is a lack of places offering decent food. Its either sandwiches, or something with chips.

 

[stiopa]

Hi Stiopa

Did you look upon my suggestion?

Hi there, yep I did.
Looks intereseting, only thing is it might be hard to find use for this in a lunch restaurant or what do you think..? Say I'll get two or three customers a day who wants to make a big order and could use this, would it pay off?
Interesting idea though..

I set up my business in a recession so not daunted by the ecconomic climate but a restaurant in 2009 - never

What kind of business? How did you manage the recession, and did they give you loans?? Know there's probably no worse time to set up a restaurant than during a recession but you say the whole 2009. When do you think it will turn?

Regards
Stiopa

 

[gibby]

I used to work with a free phone firm who were based in Manchester

we had massive success in offering a 0800- number and allowing firms to order on the phone -either to come in & eat or to deliver out

basically - if they could order in advance and not have to wait for food its a bonus, or the average delivery order was £40 to £200

we had to keep dropping menus in every week & once you have a customer target them too by post & email

we also found if you could offer a veggie & vegan menu as 20% of the customer were - its easier for the firm to order from there than using 2 or 3 places - they will pay more for good veggie vegan options although it should cost you much less with veggie vegan options as its cheaper than meat

we duplicated this all over the UK - making money from the 0800 revenue until the firm went bust due to a crooked director

Im not saying its going to be easy as so many firms are pushing for this market, but it is out there if you do the work & it will take time


G

 

[shef26]

Hi there, yep I did.
Looks intereseting, only thing is it might be hard to find use for this in a lunch restaurant or what do you think..? Say I'll get two or three customers a day who wants to make a big order and could use this, would it pay off?
Interesting idea though..]



Ya off course it will benefit you in this case also..the online food ordering system offered by merosys.com automatically records the orders placed by your customers in the customer database. With this, you can identify your customer easily, next time he/she places an order and offer him/her more dishes for lunch according to his taste and preferences.This will probably save your time and money incurred in updating the database each and every time an order is placed.You can get more information about this by going through the website.

 

[imbbe]

No matter what, my restaurant will be grand opened on April. I set it up as a low cost meal restaurant that I have plan for years. And now it is time to excute it. To sit there dreaming is not the way I use to be. Good luck to me.

 

[Emily_09]

Ya off course it will benefit you in this case also..the online food ordering system offered by merosys.com automatically records the orders placed by your customers in the customer database. With this, you can identify your customer easily, next time he/she places an order and offer him/her more dishes for lunch according to his taste and preferences.This will probably save your time and money incurred in updating the database each and every time an order is placed.You can get more information about this by going through the website.

It is quite true that incorporating an online food ordering software in your restaurant,s ordering services can help in proliferating your restaurant business, more importantly when you are going to start up a new restaurant. merosys.com offers an efficient and effective online food ordering system which acts as a catalyst in boosting up restaurant business.

 

[tony84]

It depends on the type of shop?

There is a place near where i live, they have a telephone (all hi tech stuff) you call them to ask if you can make an order, and they write it down, whilst your on the phone and tell you come down in 10 minutes.
Also Subway offer a service where you take a menu and next to each sandwich they do it has a box to enter how many you would like and any extras and it then has a number to fax it to.

I wouldnt really do the fax machine as your not sure whether they have received it and then have to chase it up with a call but i suppose if there are a load of people its easier to just pass it around for everyone to write what they want?

The type of business hes talking about (via PMs) i think its more likely to be a sit in type place witht he option for a take out? although i could be totally wrong.
Its all about cost, if the online system is cheap enough then it may be worth it i suppose.

 

[shef26]

When it comes to cost, online ordering helps a much in cutting the costs which a restaurateur often incurs in distributing paper/brochure based menus. Also it is much better than phone ordering as it does not leaves any chance of missing your order as the orders are sent via email to their mailbox

 

[Knife_fork_spoon]

Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Of that type? As a waiter? As a cook? Have you seen first-hand all the issue faced by the restaurant owner? For the restaurant industry, it's worth being able to answer each question positively. From what I've been told, owning a restaurant is not at all what you'd expect it to be.

The last comment i completly agree with! Silly hours, we work on average 100hours a week and its a high pressure job!

They reckon 50% of restaurants are going to shut this year due to the economic crisis. The F&B industry as a whole is suffering!

It's predicted the only restaurants to come out of the other end of this are the ones which are established, mid teir, loyal clientele who aren't effected as such by the economy.

Take it from me, there are some REAL bargains out there, we know a cometitor who would gladly take 5k for his pub lease - and its a VERY busy pub!

If you need any advice just shout, but I'd think VERY carefully before jump... you might just drown!

 

[huseye]

Nice report ,That is really good burger place i am like it ,And i just want to Share good information that related to delicious food ,That is really helpfully For all.
-

 

[td2011]

If you're opening for lunch in London you may want to think about the business lunch (depending on the area of course). I worked in a very popular restaurant in Bristol that didn't cater for the office workers in the area and it meant the place suffered and survived on it's evening trade alone.

 

[Getlivechat]

You could even have buffet lunch style which could be easily affordable. Have u thought about the cusine yet?

 

[xrange]

Your idea should be excellent compared to your competitors. Any business can grow if you have the right focus.

 

[maddisondobson]

Selling only the lunch?

I think this is a great idea. Haha

 

[intelligas_service]

Well, if you're looking for a company to provide FREE consultation and CAD design services for a new kitchen project then we can do this.
Just let me know and I'll do what I can to help.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

Hey this post is from 2009, wonder what happened to the OP,
99% it never happened

 

[steve2007]

I found a restaurant search site where you can add your business for free. Thought it was quite a good idea. It's a bit different to other sites. Anything that doesn't cost in the current economic climate is ok by me. It's called - great foodbook