Artificial Intelligence (AI): What are your thoughts?

[Joseph K]

Someone I admire said:

“There was a remarkable story on Artificial Intelligence (AI) on CNN in May that demonstrates the extraordinary potential of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Neuroscientists at the University of Texas have figured out a way to turn brain scans into words, using technology similar to ChatGPT. Whilst the team behind it were keen to call it ‘brain decoding’ rather than ‘mind reading’, I can imagine for some of us this breakthrough could be unsettling. But the heart-warming aspect of this story is that it could mean that patients who can no longer speak – such as those with “locked-in” syndrome or stroke survivors – could potentially communicate again.
What the CNN story neatly illustrates is a societal challenge currently being grappled with by AI leaders, businesses and governments alike: how do we get the best of AI, which has potential to do enormous good in the world, whilst mitigating some very significant risks? And whilst the international community gears up to put the right safeguards in place, are we ok to carry on in the meantime?”

I had the opportunity of using the ChatGPT for the first time recently, I can see that it’s a very advanced technology, but it will need to be properly regulated. I saw that some people are using AI in the wrong way. What are your thoughts about AI? Thanks in advance.

 

[ctrlbrk]

AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers​

AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers - Dexerto

An ambitious company that claimed to make apps using AI has been exposed as hundreds of human workers based in India.

www.dexerto.com

 

[fisicx]

I had the opportunity of using the ChatGPT for the first time recently, I can see that it’s a very advanced technology, but it will need to be properly regulated.

Regulated by whom?

 

[MikeJ]

Regulated by whom?

That post is almost two years old...

 

[ctrlbrk]

Regulated by whom?

Sorry @fisicx , you're replying to a thread started by OP in 2023.

It's probably my fault: I wanted to post that funny story and I thought I'd use an existing thread!

 

[fisicx]

I saw that story as well. There are others about the imminent collapse of the whole AI model.

 

[ctrlbrk]

I saw that story as well. There are others about the imminent collapse of the whole AI model.

Yes, it's a bubble, much like the dot-com one of 2000. There's upwards of thousands AI models.

It's unsustainable.

 

[Gecko001]

Yes, it's a bubble, much like the dot-com one of 2000. There's upwards of thousands AI models.

It's unsustainable.

I agree in general, except for teaching languages and translation.

AI has been used to for translating and teaching foreign languages for years, but the new ChatGPT voice feature, which is presently free, is on a different level for getting practice in speaking a foreign language. It is so good, that I cannot see it remaining free for very long.

 

[ctrlbrk]

I agree in general, except for teaching languages and translation.

AI has been used to for translating and teaching foreign languages for years, but the new ChatGPT voice feature, which is presently free, is on a different level for getting practice in speaking a foreign language. It is so good, that I cannot see it remaining free for very long.

I want to clarify: I am not suggesting AI it's not "good" (whatever "good" means).

I'm suggesting there are too many companies out there doing "AI" stuff, and there can't be that many for long.

Sooner or later the bubble is going to burst.

 

[fisicx]

And despite spending squidillions none of the big tech companies has come up with a way to make AI pay. Even worse, it’s being shoehorned into everything. Even good old windows notepad now comes with co-pilot.

 

[Gecko001]

I want to clarify: I am not suggesting AI it's not "good" (whatever "good" means).

I'm suggesting there are too many companies out there doing "AI" stuff, and there can't be that many for long.

Sooner or later the bubble is going to burst.

I used "good" in the context of the ChatGPT voice feature helping people to learn a foreign language. I meant that it can be used instead of a face-to-face tutor or a tutor using zoom, which could cost anything from £25-75 an hour. One advantage that ChatGPT has over a real tutor, is that it has almost infinite patience with their students, which is of great help for beginners and people with an intermediate level of fluency.

 

[ctrlbrk]

Yes, it's a bubble, much like the dot-com one of 2000. There's upwards of thousands AI models.

It's unsustainable.

The AI boom is more overhyped than the 1990s dot-com bubble, says top economist

Torsten Slok, chief economist at Apollo Global Management, recently argued that the stock market currently overvalues a handful of tech giants – including Nvidia and Microsoft –...

www.techspot.com

 

[Gecko001]

Some businesses see AI as a way of cutting costs, and maybe providing a better service, but only some do, I would argue.

As for governments, of whatever political persuasion, I am amazed that they often mention it regarding the NHS and other important services. I am even more amazed that they seem to see it as only providing benefits.

 

[ctrlbrk]

As for governments, of whatever political persuasion, I am amazed that they often mention it regarding the NHS and other important services. I am even more amazed that they seem to see it as only providing benefits.

Because who runs the government is often ignorant about technology.

Look at what's happening with encryption in the UK. Look at how most governments globally are letting social media hijack the political discourse.

AI is no different.

It will be decades before governments catch up with current technology trends. By then it will be too late.

 

[fisicx]

This just demonstrates the incompetence of government:

OpenAI and UK sign deal to use AI in public services

The US tech firm behind ChatGPT say it will work with the UK government to 'deliver prosperity for all'.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s essentially selling all our data with little in return.

 

[Gecko001]

Because who runs the government is often ignorant about technology.

Look at what's happening with encryption in the UK. Look at how most governments globally are letting social media hijack the political discourse.

AI is no different.

It will be decades before governments catch up with current technology trends. By then it will be too late.

I agree. If they cannot understand the technology, they run the risk that ministers will not be able to dig deep into the risks and the unexpected consequences of it
The cutting edge IT and computer companies, in a way, have had an easy ride. They have got used to not being held responsible when things go wrong. And government also seems to do nothing about the situation.

 

[ctrlbrk]

Just leaving this here

The warning signs the AI bubble is about to burst

Shock sell-off after study warns most investments in artificial intelligence get zero returns

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[numbersrule]

Just found this AI thread again nearly a year on.....

What do you good forum posties think now about the likelihood or otherwise of a boom to bust scenario?

 

[Ozzy]

It is about as likely to go 'bust' as the Internet.

AI isn't going anywhere. It is used by just about everyone; it is used by the military, the governments, businesses, and it's receiving trillions of dollars in funding, which isn't going away. There is a lot of conpiracy theorists about it, there are a lot of neh sayers too, and a lot of people fighting against it, but just like when the Internet was first introduced, it'll slot into everyday life and there will be a niche minority who'll hang on in there being 'anti AI' like there are some niche 'anti Internet' folks still around.

 

[fisicx]

What will happen is a price adjustment. It’s not paying its way right now and unlikely to make a profit for many years if ever.

There will also be a rethink on where and how data centres are built as the energy and cooling demands are unsustainable. Unless you as a consumer cough up to pay for all the new infrastructure.

 

[ctrlbrk]

It is about as likely to go 'bust' as the Internet.

In 2000 all you had to do to was to add a ".com" to your business and investors would throw money at you. It was a frenzy. Then the dot-com bubble burst.

It didn't end the Internet of course, but it did separate the wheat from the chaff.

These days every man and his dog want to sell you AI stuff. Even businesses who don't understand AI have jumped on the bandwagon - much like people used to do with "the cloud" bandwagon of 10 years ago.

The AI bubble won't bust the way you mean - but a correction is inevitable.