How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers

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I've recently developed a SaaS solution designed to empower organisations by enabling anonymous tracking of employee moods, offering insights into mood trends and underlying causes over time. The goal is to help organisations identify well-being issues early, enabling timely interventions that boost morale, productivity, and employee retention.

I'm at the point where it's time to market my product. Instead of casting a wide net, I aim to focus on a specific niche that could benefit from this tool to make marketing easier. My wife, who works in the education sector, believes that educational institutions, particularly those emphasising well-being, would find great value in this product. Given that the Further Education (FE) & Higher Education (HE) sector in the UK employs over 400,000 staff, the market size is encouraging (excluding schools and private training providers).

However, my hesitation stems from my limited familiarity with the educational sector, especially public institutions, which often operate on tight budgets. Additionally, the complex approval processes at universities could pose significant sales challenges. My limited understanding leads me to believe that financial decision making in Schools and Colleges may be an easier process, but I'm unsure.

Private training organisations are another potential avenue. There's over 12,000 of them in the UK, but only 5% of them employee enough staff for my product to be beneficial to them (I think).

So, my question to the forum is: How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers. Do you need to be registered on some sort of approved provider register? Is it best to avoid Universities to begin with and focus and Schools, Colleges and Private providers assuming that there are less layers to jump through?
 

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Very difficult.

In fact unless you are already a preferred supplier it’s almost impossible. The big players have pretty much got the whole education sector sewn up.
 
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Very difficult.

In fact unless you are already a preferred supplier it’s almost impossible. The big players have pretty much got the whole education sector sewn up.
I pretty much thought so.

Would that still be the case for something that isn't necessarily education specific? Obviously for any education specific software, you're 100% right. Through a 3rd party I do some work for one of the big education software providers in the UK, their solutions cover anything from finance, admissions, libraries, parent communications, timetables through to managing dinner money etc. They've pretty much got those areas covered off. While they also do HR software, there isn't any mention that it does what mine does.

I don't plan on conquering the education sector with my product, but I'm looking for a niche sector that I can initial market to so I can make the most of my marketing activities. Education was the first sector that sprung to mind, I know a little about it and it's big enough.

My initial thoughts though, are like you say, that it would be an uphill struggle and I'd be better off finding another sector to focus on.
 
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The problem you have is convincing anyone they they need your product.

How exactly do you monitor moods? Anything that requires any sort of input will fail at the first hurdle because nobody will ever report their mood.
 
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The problem you have is convincing anyone they they need your product.

How exactly do you monitor moods? Anything that requires any sort of input will fail at the first hurdle because nobody will ever report their mood.
We've been using it in a couple of businesses with over 100 staff, and we've seen good engagement rates so far. Obviously finding ways to improve and maintain engagement rates is something I'll need to work on going forward, but that's all part of the challenge.

It's a simply product, I've kept it that way on purpose. Once a week the tool sends an email to employees asking them to select their mood. There's 5 links in the email, click the relevant mood and you're done. There's an optional step afterwards where employees can select one or more reasons for their mood should they wish to do so.

The feedback I'm getting so far has been nothing but positive and HR departments have been impressed with the insights it's giving them.
 
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Good to hear it’s been a success.

How would it work in a factory where the majority of staff don’t have access to email?

How would this work in an organisation where internet access is firewalled?

How does a company intervene if 10% are in a bad mood but you don’t know who they are?

Really need to know a lot more before being able to advise on marketing strategies.
 
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My target market would be business where the majority of staff have access to the email, so that would be the services sector. I've purposefully limited the features of the app so that I can get something to market quickly and react to feedback rather than implement features that no-one needs. I realise this reduces the size of the market, but at this stage of the process I see that as a positive.

I've realised that in order to get people engaged and sharing their mood, the feedback they give has to be anonymous. This does pose some issues as you've pointed out, but on the flip side it makes people more willing to share their mood and give feedback. You find that many employees are reluctant to provide feedback, especially when it's negative, as they're concerned that it could be used against them and limit their opportunities within the organisation, so being anonymous is a critical feature. The app does however provide a breakdown of mood and well-being by team or department, which does provide some element of granularity. For example, in one organisation the tool highlighted that their sales department was stressed, and the insights showed that this was because staff felt overworked and undervalued, and that they were struggling with work-life balance. On the other hand, other departments in the business had a more positive outlook.

I feel pulled towards focusing on marketing the product to HR departments in organisations that have 50 to 250 employees. There's over 4.2 million people employed across 36,000 businesses in that group, but I would need to identify sectors within that where a large majority of staff have access to work email.

At this stage, I'm doing everything myself. Designing the app, building it. Designing and building the website and marketing it. So I'm aware that to reduce risk and get the best results, my approach needs to be focused and planned.
 
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It’s the marketing that’s the hardest part. The app is less important than your sales pitch.

Identifying prospective clients isn’t going to be easy. You may be better off engaging a marketing company to help with this.
 
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I've recently developed a SaaS solution designed to empower organisations by enabling anonymous tracking of employee moods, offering insights into mood trends and underlying causes over time. The goal is to help organisations identify well-being issues early, enabling timely interventions that boost morale, productivity, and employee retention.

I'm at the point where it's time to market my product. Instead of casting a wide net, I aim to focus on a specific niche that could benefit from this tool to make marketing easier. My wife, who works in the education sector, believes that educational institutions, particularly those emphasising well-being, would find great value in this product. Given that the Further Education (FE) & Higher Education (HE) sector in the UK employs over 400,000 staff, the market size is encouraging (excluding schools and private training providers).

However, my hesitation stems from my limited familiarity with the educational sector, especially public institutions, which often operate on tight budgets. Additionally, the complex approval processes at universities could pose significant sales challenges. My limited understanding leads me to believe that financial decision making in Schools and Colleges may be an easier process, but I'm unsure.

Private training organisations are another potential avenue. There's over 12,000 of them in the UK, but only 5% of them employee enough staff for my product to be beneficial to them (I think).

So, my question to the forum is: How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers. Do you need to be registered on some sort of approved provider register? Is it best to avoid Universities to begin with and focus and Schools, Colleges and Private providers assuming that there are less layers to jump through?
Since it’s going to be hard to break into the educational sector, I think it would be worth it to offer the application for free to individual educators that can then share the app with their colleagues. The teachers may find it valuable to them just to know what their own trends are.

Once you have 10-15 teachers using the service for free, you have clout to take to the school directors as well as advocates within the system.
 
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Since it’s going to be hard to break into the educational sector, I think it would be worth it to offer the application for free to individual educators that can then share the app with their colleagues. The teachers may find it valuable to them just to know what their own trends are.

Once you have 10-15 teachers using the service for free, you have clout to take to the school directors as well as advocates within the system.
That’s not going to work. It has to be centrally driven.

Note also we don’t use the word educator in the UK.
 
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    I've worked in a lot of schools.
    How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers
    Ans = very difficult in principle, but some have managed by providing a service that helps senior management meet some goal or other that Ofsted will look at. Actually scrub that, you need to help senior management *look* as if they're meeting a goal that Ofsted will look at.

    1. It's a crowded market. At one school I'm familiar with, they have a different SaaS for each of:
    - tracking special needs provision
    - logging student assessment data
    - registering safeguarding concerns
    - processing student work experience and university applications
    - setting homework
    - managing seating plans
    - 45 other SaaS for other things (including things like Quizlet & Kahoot)

    Note that all of the above directly affect students in one way or another: that's the core business of the school.

    2. There's a 20-page form to fill to get a new SaaS past the GDPR manager.

    3. Staff will have to learn yet another password.

    4. Teachers will have yet one more trivial thing to do each day / week / whatever at the behest of senior leadership, when each of them is already managing several hundred direct reports (=students), along with umpteen other stakeholders with competing agendas.

    5. Senior leaders generally don't care about staff feelings, and aren't incentivised to do so: teaching is an insanely intense job, and "resilience" is what they're looking for. Sure, at a system level this leads to system failure, but no senior leader who opens the floodgates to teachers expressing their mood is going to survive the deluge they've unleashed.

    6. Rank and file staff are intensely cynical of "initiatives" and will believe (almost certainly correctly) that nothing will be done with the data they submit.

    If you really want to make a go of it, I would:
    1. Target Multi-Academy Trusts
    2. Prioritise those with schools that have a recent poor Ofsted grade where teacher workload is mentioned.

    But honestly I don't think anyone cares.
     
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    In a nutshell, if you are addressing a specific edict or regulation, you can sell pretty much any old rubbish for any price if you are smart.

    If it requires them to use imagination or initiative, you will have an uphill struggle
    I have just created a SaaS for EDU which directly links to the new compliance keeping kids safe in the education framework and I'm still not able to get this in the door.


    In general the SaaS market for schools, I would say is probably one of the hardest to break due to funding and finance frameworks imposed on schools.
     
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    the SaaS market for schools … is probably one of the hardest to break due to funding and finance frameworks
    Most of it’s crap, too, and only results in more fragmented, more difficult work. “Do one thing well” is usually good advice, but tasks in schools are so varied what you really need is a consistent product across many areas.

    If anyone can make an AI that translates natural language instructions into inputs for 10s of different SaaS interfaces, I think they’d be onto a winner.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback everyone.

    I'm going to drop the idea of targeting education and focus on businesses with 50-250 staff where the majority are likely to have access to work email. Private education providers would fall under this, but I know there's less hoops to jump through here vs state schools and colleges.

    I don't have a preference of who I market to, I simply want to help businesses to create a positive working culture that improves employee well-being, while at the same time improving productivity and reducing staff turnover.

    I'm away now for a week, so it'll give me time to read some books and gain some knowledge ready for when I return.
     
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    I’m sure there is a market for you product, I’m just struggling to see how much use it would be. I know I’d just click anything to get rid of the email nag.
     
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    I’m sure there is a market for you product, I’m just struggling to see how much use it would be. I know I’d just click anything to get rid of the email nag.

    It's a one a week email, and staff are free to ignore it, so there's very little nagging.

    You do raise a valid concern though, and one I'll likely have to deal with. Monitoring engagement rates is going to be something I'll be keeping an eye on, and looking for new ways to maintain and improve engagement rates.

    In my mind, the key is getting across to staff that it's in their interest to participate, the whole premise of the application is to improve employee mood by highlighting their struggles and hopefully, help organisations to address those struggles to create a better workplace. Employees hopefully enjoy work more, and employers hopefully see savings from reduced staff turnover and increases productivity.

    I don't envision this generating massive sales, if it helps some businesses and penetrates a very very small percentage of the target market, enough to make it a full time job for me, then I'll consider it a success. I've been a freelance software developer/consultant for 18 year now, and I want to move away from that.
     
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    Once a week is still too much. Staff will just ignore if they see no personal benefit. If everyone is apparently happy then the whole exercise becomes pointless.

    I’ve been involved over the last 50 years of working in umpteen management initiatives all supposedly to help improve things. They rarely did. The ones that worked had management engagement with staff.

    Clicking a link in an email to report my mood isn’t going be helpful as it’s too subjective. The response is directly related to what happened in the hour before the email arrived in my inbox.
     
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    And (as my wife has just pointed out) this sort of thing is already built in to many CRM and HR applications.
     
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    Is your expertise in tech or in social research? If the latter you could try licensing your module to TES or C(r)apita or another big schools SaaS provider. (If the former, I wouldn’t buy from you, sorry.)

    Also check back after the election: there will be new incentives on schools and they may be more favourable to your product
     
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    I have just created a SaaS for EDU which directly links to the new compliance keeping kids safe in the education framework and I'm still not able to get this in the door.


    In general the SaaS market for schools, I would say is probably one of the hardest to break due to funding and finance frameworks imposed on schools.
    Things may have changed since "my day' but I suspect not much.

    90% of head teachers were promoted teachers. I'm not questioning their integrity or ability in teaching, but they has zero acumen and were incapable of making decisions outside of education

    Meanwhile, bursars simply gathered information and presented it in raw form

    Outcome - if you didn't 100% fit the edict, you would be procrastinated for ever. Meanwhile dodgy deals around copiers and whiteboards were abundant - clever packaged to tick the mandate box
     
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    My personal view, having worked in the sector from outside schools (and as a chair of governors at secondary level) is that you would seriously struggle to make a business out of this as a stand-alone product. I would recommend contacting a few of the SAAS HR software providers such as Breathe HR and see if they'd like to buy or licence your software. They won't be able to charge much of a premium, so I don't think you'll make a lot of money from it, but otherwise I think you'll struggle to achieve any traction. I'm generally of the opinion that "there's always a way...", but honestly I think you'd struggle with this more than it's worth it.
     
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    Is your expertise in tech or in social research? If the latter you could try licensing your module to TES or C(r)apita or another big schools SaaS provider. (If the former, I wouldn’t buy from you, sorry.)

    Also check back after the election: there will be new incentives on schools and they may be more favourable to your product

    I think eteb3 mentioned something quite important here.

    If you are targeting private businesses, they will likely be using the Microsoft 365 ecosystem at the 50 - 250 staff range, some will be Google or other platforms but a much smaller market.

    The reason why this is important is because most if not all of these organisations will be making use of the Microsoft License "Microsoft Business Premium" which bundles loads of products together such as Office Applications(Word, Excel), Microsoft Teams, Email, but also a product called Microsoft Viva Insights.

    This product does exactly the sort of thing I think your software is doing and from a technical standpoint, I'm not sure you will be able to match Microsoft with their massive budgets and high number of technical staff members.

    It's worth looking into Microsoft Viva Insights and the price points they have for additional features, they do have some upgrades you can buy and see how you compare against it.

    You may be selling something most organisations already have but don't know they have or have had a bad experience with it which puts you in an uphill battle to convince them it's worthwhile.

    I'm not a marketing/business person myself so the others in this thread probably have a far better opinion on it than me, as an IT guy for an organisation my feedback if I was asked about this type of software would likely be we have a product like this already and not turned it on, or we tried it before and people just marked the email notifications as Spam. - This will come down to individual IT department's knowledge of Microsoft 365 which is important.

    If I was to try and make this work, I would spend some considerable time trying to work out the best staff member in the organisations I want to target to get my foot in the door and then the next step which I think is harder, try and engage with them, or try RobPickerings approach (I think Rob's is the better option)

    The only other contribution I can add which I think others have mentioned but links directly to my own experience with the Microsoft Viva Insights product. I'm not sure about the psychological theory but Bruce Schiener in a few of his books (IT Security Author) talks about when systems produce false reports (False Positives and False Negatives) and the longer-term impact this has on the perception of your system/SaaS. I can't remember the exact figure but it was something like 1 in 4 times of being wrong and eventually, your software would lose its integrity (positive perception) this will likely have an impact if you plan to depend on long-term clients - Just something to note.
     
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    Thanks for all of the feedback so far, positive or negative.

    As mentioned, there's already a number of products that can measure employee mood, whether it's Viva Insights or existing HR software. Thankfully, the existence of those products simply serves to validate that there may be paying customers out there. The fact something already exists isn't a reason to drop your idea and move on. You have only to look at the number of todo apps, time management apps and note apps to see that. If everyone had the same needs, requirements and budgets, we'd all be using the same tools and software.

    I'll never be able to compete with those companies with big budgets, but I don't want to. My goal is to do one thing, and do it well through user feedback.

    The challenges I'll face don't put me off, but rather they challenge me to work around them and find solutions. It helps that the bar where I'll consider this a success is extremely low, along with any risks I'm being exposed to. Failure only serves as a opportunity to reflect and learn.

    Some will question why I'm doing this. I love my job, there's never a day that I wake and dread going to work. Yet, in the UK alone there's a huge amount of people unhappy and disengaged in their role. I want to do something about that, even if the impact is tiny. I'm not a psychologist and I don't work in HR, but I experience frustration when people and businesses neglect to see that their staff are unhappy or even identify why. I've seen it first hand, businesses offering employees an early finish in exchange for completing employee surveys that result in the company being voted one of the best places to work in the industry, yet the survey doesn't in any way reflect what's really going on at ground level or the feedback left by ex-employees on various job sites. The people at the top don't care though, despite high levels of staff turnover and inefficiencies. I know this isn't every business, but I see it often enough for it to bother me.

    Is this going to make me a millionaire? Unlikely. Is it the perfect solution? far from it. Is it somewhere to start from and learn from, definitely. Is it something that might open up further opportunities down the line, certainly.

    I'll face challenges, I'll receive negative feedback, and maybe I'll fail. That's ok.

    I'll end with asking one question. Have you praised someone for their contribution/effort today? If not, think about it, you won't believe how much of a difference it could make to someones day.
     
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    I've recently developed a SaaS solution designed to empower organisations by enabling anonymous tracking of employee moods, offering insights into mood trends and underlying causes over time. The goal is to help organisations identify well-being issues early, enabling timely interventions that boost morale, productivity, and employee retention.

    I'm at the point where it's time to market my product. Instead of casting a wide net, I aim to focus on a specific niche that could benefit from this tool to make marketing easier. My wife, who works in the education sector, believes that educational institutions, particularly those emphasising well-being, would find great value in this product. Given that the Further Education (FE) & Higher Education (HE) sector in the UK employs over 400,000 staff, the market size is encouraging (excluding schools and private training providers).

    However, my hesitation stems from my limited familiarity with the educational sector, especially public institutions, which often operate on tight budgets. Additionally, the complex approval processes at universities could pose significant sales challenges. My limited understanding leads me to believe that financial decision making in Schools and Colleges may be an easier process, but I'm unsure.

    Private training organisations are another potential avenue. There's over 12,000 of them in the UK, but only 5% of them employee enough staff for my product to be beneficial to them (I think).

    So, my question to the forum is: How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers. Do you need to be registered on some sort of approved provider register? Is it best to avoid Universities to begin with and focus and Schools, Colleges and Private providers assuming that there are less layers to jump through?
    You need to carry out your market research to understand whether your product is likely to be of interest with these sectors.
     
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    Viva Insights exists, but it's bundled free because it has little/no value to the customer. It tracks email usage, Office 365 usage, and team meetings, so it thinks it knows all about what I'm doing. It's like an all-seeing version of analytics.

    Applicable on a large scale for Microsoft - how much time do people spend on teams? - therefore, when we split it, how much can we charge for it

    They probably sell the data, too, and I suspect they're trying to do some clever AI analysis as well. Anonymously analysing the content of emails and documents.

    Asking staff to click a button is fairly pointless; they'll skip it, click the top link without reading, etc.

    If staff answer it honestly, then you're opening up a big can of worms around gender bias/sexism. Particularly, as you've said, you can identify teams/departments.
     
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    I've recently developed a SaaS solution designed to empower organisations by enabling anonymous tracking of employee moods, offering insights into mood trends and underlying causes over time. The goal is to help organisations identify well-being issues early, enabling timely interventions that boost morale, productivity, and employee retention.

    I'm at the point where it's time to market my product. Instead of casting a wide net, I aim to focus on a specific niche that could benefit from this tool to make marketing easier. My wife, who works in the education sector, believes that educational institutions, particularly those emphasising well-being, would find great value in this product. Given that the Further Education (FE) & Higher Education (HE) sector in the UK employs over 400,000 staff, the market size is encouraging (excluding schools and private training providers).

    However, my hesitation stems from my limited familiarity with the educational sector, especially public institutions, which often operate on tight budgets. Additionally, the complex approval processes at universities could pose significant sales challenges. My limited understanding leads me to believe that financial decision making in Schools and Colleges may be an easier process, but I'm unsure.

    Private training organisations are another potential avenue. There's over 12,000 of them in the UK, but only 5% of them employee enough staff for my product to be beneficial to them (I think).

    So, my question to the forum is: How difficult is it to sell a SaaS product to UK education providers. Do you need to be registered on some sort of approved provider register? Is it best to avoid Universities to begin with and focus and Schools, Colleges and Private providers assuming that there are less layers to jump through?
    What you are doing already exists - i saw at least 3 similar products running as mobile apps at the CIPD festival of work at Olympia last autumn. One of them i spoke to the developers, they had started with an all singing all dancing product and found that actually users/HR wanted a quick and dirty solution which indicated a trend rather than a full functioning diagnostic tool so theirs was literally a smiley face type thing like you get leaving a service station toilet. They told me how much time they had wasted adding in more and more options and functionality only to find the customers didnt want it - they wanted a quick indicator to highlight who needed actual intervention that could be done by a professional.

    Also remember most schools are now part of a MAT so it is actually the MAT you have to target not the individual school
     
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    I've recently developed a SaaS solution designed to empower organisations by enabling anonymous tracking of employee moods, offering insights into mood trends and underlying causes over time. The goal is to help organisations identify well-being issues early, enabling timely interventions that boost morale, productivity, and employee retention.
    How about starting with converting this to one sentence in plain English - it is MBA gobbledygook!
     
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    Its like those things with sad/smilely faces on that you see when you're leaving stores like Currys.

    Supposedly to see what you think, but mainly for little kids to tap the smiley face coz its fun, and then Currys can say we have high customer satisfaction.

    But in a email.

    You could make it yourself in 5 minutes if you didn't know how to program.

    I just asked chatGPT to make one, it took 6 lines of code - excluding the database connection which is pretty standard.
     
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    I just asked chatGPT to make one, it took 6 lines of code - excluding the database connection which is pretty standard.
    It is a really simple bit of code. Just about any business who wanted something like this could get their devs to knock something up without breaking step.
     
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    That might be why it's hard to sell.

    I can only see value if you include a whole bunch of analytics in the background like MS does, but I don't think schools want or need that information, and it would only be really worthwhile if you had it at scale.

    Of course that goes against the whole privacy side of things, so I can't see many schools agreeing to that.

    It might be worth giving it away free for the data and hoping no one notices how much you're spying on them.
     
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    Depends how you're going to market this. So I was EMEA head of talent acquisition of a multi-billion dollar software business prior to opening my video production business. This means I was part of the HR decision-making committee when we bought this stuff. In reality, I was a really minor part but I was part of the conversations.

    Firstly, the education sector? I don't know enough about it to comment.

    Secondly, I can see you're really early on your marketing journey. Stuff like anonymous employee analysis will have legal, HR, risk management etc... departments having heart attacks and I can't see that playing out in schools or Unis. And I can see potential recruits turning down a company because they don't want to be spied on.

    So you have to figure out a way to position it. The ones I've seen have been labelled as employee well-being tools and sold in through HR departments, mostly with comps & bens (wellbeing) being the primary champions. And if you are niching down, that means you can hit wellbeing departments of large companies or sell through HR consultancies selling wellbeing solutions. Albeit, a wellbeing solution which allows companies to improve productivity.
     
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    Its like those things with sad/smilely faces on that you see when you're leaving stores like Currys.

    Supposedly to see what you think, but mainly for little kids to tap the smiley face coz its fun, and then Currys can say we have high customer satisfaction.

    But in a email.

    You could make it yourself in 5 minutes if you didn't know how to program.

    I just asked chatGPT to make one, it took 6 lines of code - excluding the database connection which is pretty standard.

    I've got it!

    This isn't a place for like minded business people to get together and help one another, it's somewhere you go for a good windup, because your comment and the other from fisicx are simply laughable. Literally, I've read them and almost fell off my chair. I didn't, but I still managed to pull a muscle. Where's that Ibuprofen.

    You are literally pulling my leg, whilst at the same time dismissing the time and effort that someone has put into their work. I could just as easily criticise the work of others, but I'd rather approach it more constructively and provide feedback that an individual or business could build upon. For example, I'd maybe describe to someone how having a visually appealing website can greatly improve conversion rates, and I could provide research and evidence to back that up, then it would be up to the individual/business to decide what to do with that information. I wouldn't tell them that their website was as visually appealing as a skinned cat.

    By all means, feel free to pick holes in my idea, and my target market, but please don't dismiss someone else's work.

    I've received some good advice in this thread, but there's been that have been less constructive, and harming to this community. If these are the comments and suggestions that someone might receive, then I'd be surprised if they come back. From a moderator of a forum, I would expect better.
     
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    The problem you have @rsshep is the basic concept of a mood indicator is easy to code. I’ve built plugins that do just this. Adding a dashboard that collates the responses isn’t complicated.

    Maybe your product has some additional features but that’s not enough to convince a company that’s it’s worth investikng. Especially if their existing HR software already has a survey addon or extension.

    It all comes back to marketing. The app itself isn’t important, your skills as a salesperson is all that matters.

    Nobody wants an app. What they want is more profits, lower costs, better productivity, less churn. If you can show your app can fix any of the above and convince them it’s worth doing a trial you might get some leads. But I’d make it stand alone. Far more desirable than SaaS.
     
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    The problem you have @rsshep is the basic concept of a mood indicator is easy to code. I’ve built plugins that do just this. Adding a dashboard that collates the responses isn’t complicated.

    Maybe your product has some additional features but that’s not enough to convince a company that’s it’s worth investikng. Especially if their existing HR software already has a survey addon or extension.

    It all comes back to marketing. The app itself isn’t important, your skills as a salesperson is all that matters.

    Nobody wants an app. What they want is more profits, lower costs, better productivity, less churn. If you can show your app can fix any of the above and convince them it’s worth doing a trial you might get some leads. But I’d make it stand alone. Far more desirable than SaaS.
    Thanks Fixicx, I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

    You've highlighted that potentially I'm not accurately getting across what I'm trying to achieve, and that will impact the effectiveness of my message.

    I'll start with this. The product that I've developed is literally, an MVP. It's purpose is to get a foot in the door of the market/industry. From there, I want to get people using it, get feedback about what works, what doesn't work, what's missing, and then gradually work to fulfil those needs. This will happen during a beta phase were it'll be completely free to use, with incentives once the beta period has ended (I'm talking 6 - 12 month).

    I agree that it's a fairly simply product, but then so are most task management and time tracking apps. I'm not trying to re-invent the wheel, but rather offer an alternative that might be suitable for a small part of the small-medium business market. As with any app, there's a certain level of complexity that goes on behind that scene that most people don't see, such as UX design, research, unit testing, continuous integration, resource scaling etc. Those things don't directly impact the saleability of the product, but do help improve quality and customer retention.

    At the most basic level, the purpose of the app is to enhance employee well-being and organisation culture by quickly and regularly tracking and analysing anonymous employee moods and the reasons behind them. It focuses on mood rather than employee engagement, because while they are somewhat intertwined, they are separate, but complimentary. Improving employee mood can improve employee engagement, and improving engagement can in improve employee mood.

    There's a few key points in the purpose, the first is 'anonymous', because even when engagement surveys say they're anonymous, there's always a concern from participants that their IT department will be able to identify individual feedback through their IP address and various logs. The feedback provided will be completely anonymous and neither myself or customers will be able to track down feedback to an individual employee (unless someone is watching over your shoulder or remotely monitoring you).

    The second point is 'regular'. How regular, I don't know yet. Currently it's weekly, but that will be refined based on customer feedback and potentially made available as an option. Some, including yourself, would argue that weekly is too often, and that is a valid concern and something I'm keeping an eye on. Feedback will decide the best schedule. I've gone with regular feedback because I want the app to focus on actions that are reasonably quick to implement and see results from. As you know, many organisations perform employment engagements surveys yearly (some more often), but what they're doing is comparing results to the year before. More regular and less intrusive feedback could help organisations identify some issues early so they can take immediate action rather than waiting until the end of the year. By regularly monitoring employee mood and the reasons for the mood, you could quickly identify that last month a particular department experienced low mood because they were concerned with workload and work-life balance, then implement something quickly to address that. There's various algorithms in the background that rate and score mood in the organisation and on a per team basis.

    The app will hopefully enhance employee mood, by given organisations some insights into how to address feedback. For example, it might identify that your sales department is generally unhappy because they're feeling undervalued and overworked, and will provide some suggestions on how you 'could' address that, or further steps you could take. Once someone has selected their mood, they're given a selection of carefully crafted statements that they can select that best represent the reason for their mood. These short statements cover 6 areas which are known to impact employee mood (and engagement), and insights in the app will identify areas that need attention, whilst also highlighting the positives so organisations can continue doing what they are doing in those areas.

    I've also put a lot of effort into making sure that participation time is as short as possible, I'm talking 2-3 seconds to select your mood, up to 30 seconds if you give a reason for mood (optional). I'm aware of issues surrounding survey fatigue and such, and I'm constantly trying to evaluation how I can reduce that and increase/maintain engagement (this isn't a finished product).

    As I said earlier, this is literally a foundation, and where it goes from here is going to be determined by the feedback I get from users. I have a number of ideas that including blog posts to educate people and organisations on employee mood and it's impact, to customised insights advice/book/reading suggestions to employees after mood selection to encourage them to take action themselves.

    I'm going for quick setup, easy to use, no complicated reporting or analytics. I don't believe you should have to take a course or online training to understand how employees are feeling.

    As with everything, some don't believe in well-being and think that giving your employees access to a pool table and a snack bar sticks a tick in the employee well-being box. I'd like to do my bit to address that if I can. I want employers to understand the difference between engagement and happiness, that employee engagements tracks how much employees care about work, but monitoring employee mood and well-being shows how much you care about your employees. They're humans after all, who spent on average 1/3rd of their life at work, which also has an impact on the other 2/3rds of their life, and all for the grand total of £1.5m (based on average UK salary).

    I'll be first to hold my hands up and say there's some uncertainty here, but I hope through getting something out there and getting feedback, I can address some of that uncertainty.

    Finally, happy employees + engaged employees = improved retention + improved productivity + enhanced creativity + attract top talent = more profit. This is going to be a key part of my marketing message.
     
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    Totally understand what you are trying the achieve. But as I said the app and all its features are irrelevant.

    It’s marketing that matters. Good salespeople can sell junk. They convince people to buy things they just don’t need and will often never use.

    You need to be that person. You need to be a salesperson and convince clients they really need your app. Nobody cares about you or you ideas. All they care about is WIIFM.

    All of which means you need to start knocking on doors, spend on advertising and show people how it can transform their workplace.

    Better still, show how it integrates with their existing HR application.
     
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