Car parts supplier for online trade

suna

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Hi everyone,

Trying to do research on how I can sell car parts on online retail. The question I have, where UK motor factors get their stock from. Is it directly from manufacturer or some distributors linked to manufacturer.

Has anyone had any experience with selling car parts online.
 

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    Some experience yes.

    There is a lot of drop-shipping happens in the car-parts niche, partly due to the size and weight of components, and partly due to low margins and competitive nature.

    A quick google search will reveal lots of wholesalers who drop-ship anything from brake pads to batteries.
    Take a look at Euro Car Parts. They have this space absolutely nailed...and almost monopolised. You would need extremely deep pockets to replicate their online functionality, stock or delivery process.
     
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    Some experience yes.

    There is a lot of drop-shipping happens in the car-parts niche, partly due to the size and weight of components, and partly due to low margins and competitive nature.

    A quick google search will reveal lots of wholesalers who drop-ship anything from brake pads to batteries.
    Take a look at Euro Car Parts. They have this space absolutely nailed...and almost monopolised. You would need extremely deep pockets to replicate their online functionality, stock or delivery process.
    Well, I wouldn't plant to grow as big as Euro Car Parts but who knows ;)

    I don't think dropshipping is an answer as profit would be tiny.
     
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    I am not in the industry BUT

    I repair my own bike and need parts
    I have a mate who is a back street mechanic
    When i was growing up my stepdad mended cars over the winter when not farming

    So i have some thoughts

    All of the above want stuff quick, if my clutch slave seal goes (an issue on my bike) i want a new ASAP

    If someone rocks up at my mates, same - they want their car fixed fast.

    I will pay a couple of quid more to get it the part from a small shop in Reading called "Motorcycle Parts Centre" than wait a day or 2 for Yambits to send it.
    My mate uses various factors and places like Euro Car Parts to get stuff quick for a similar reason. For him a car sat blocking his space whilst he waits for a bit is lost revenue opportunity. A customer is not going to quibble over a part costing £65 not £60 if it means they get their car back a day sooner. They will complain if he says "it will be done end of Tuesday" and he is still waiting for a part Wed morning.

    That is what you have to compete with - you have to be able to ship that part to my mate quicker than he can get it locally or with more reliability than a big boy in the internet space. A tall order
     
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    JEREMY HAWKE

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    Aim to supply quality parts as a lot of stock on the market is utter crap
    I would be a customer If the quality is good. It is not always about the price
    Also being able to hold stocks of parts that are not in the country is also an advantage ie on Friday we had to wait a week for a clutch return spring from German for a Renault Master
     
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    Aim to supply quality parts as a lot of stock on the market is utter crap
    I would be a customer If the quality is good. It is not always about the price
    Also being able to hold stocks of parts that are not in the country is also an advantage ie on Friday we had to wait a week for a clutch return spring from German for a Renault Master
    You are absolutely right here. After brexit everything is slow so my idea would be to use local UK based manufacturer products and not products stored in Germany. Also, I agree on quality, as of my own experience parts from Ebay tend to not fit .
     
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    Question I had in my mind was where motor factors get their stock and not how hard is to compete with big boys.
    Many years ago I worked for Automotive Products. (Borg &Beck, Locheed) supplying the after market.
    Time has passed and names have changed. But here is one supplier for you

    Even in those days, forty years ago, when a part was needed urgently, in many cases we could ship and deliver same day using Red Star parcels. There is nothing new about fast deliveries.

    The chain used to be Factory - wholesaler (which could be the factory) - motor factor - garage. The key demand from the customer (the garage) was have you got it and how fast can I have it. Still applies.
     
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    Well, I wouldn't plant to grow as big as Euro Car Parts but who knows ;)

    I don't think dropshipping is an answer as profit would be tiny.

    The problem you will have if you don't drop ship is stocking. To be relied upon, you will be expected to stock a rare part just as you would a brake pad for a ford Fiesta.

    The answer to avoid this problem is to specialise
     
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    Question I had in my mind was where motor factors get their stock and not how hard is to compete with big boys.
    They get stock from a range of places. They employ buyers whose whole job is sourcing stock. They have all the contacts and know where to find items.
     
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    They get stock from a range of places. They employ buyers whose whole job is sourcing stock. They have all the contacts and know where to find items.
    Nail hit firmly on head. Most general motor factors work on incredibly low margins as the competition is intense. It is not a business that is easy to start in unless you have knowledge & experience from within the industry.

    Having said that, there are many profitable opportunities to specialise within the industry if the broad focus can be narrowed down.
     
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    Nail hit firmly on head. Most general motor factors work on incredibly low margins as the competition is intense. It is not a business that is easy to start in unless you have knowledge & experience from within the industry.

    Having said that, there are many profitable opportunities to specialise within the industry if the broad focus can be narrowed down.
    I would be targeting the modern boy racers that stick pipes and colourful radiator hoses on their Honda Civics and knackered BMWs
     
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    Well, I like taking on challenges and it seems this is one BIG challenge to deal with.
    Got the list of manufacturers who are stocked up in UK and emailed some of them. Got some reply already which sounds promising. No middle man is the way forward. Will give it a go without putting myself in debt ;)
     
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    There's an old saying in business circles . . . . "If you want to make £1million in this job, first you need to invest £5million in premises, stock, staff, marketing etc etc etc".
    Not necessarily, not always everything is about millions. If you have skill set technical (understanding of car parts), IT (web design, e-commerce, car parts compatibility intigration), accounting (dealing with taxes) and communications skills, you can do it as good as big boys ?
     
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    I would agree with the specialise in a particular car those are the sites I turn to now, and I have to say I find Euro Car Parts crap these days
    I don't rate them but I use Motor Parts Direct because they are the only ones with a warehouse here in Cullompton the quality is very good but stock is only run of the mill and often problems with vans are not run of the mill!
     
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    I would agree with the specialise in a particular car those are the sites I turn to now, and I have to say I find Euro Car Parts crap these days
    100%

    As i said i use Yambits for parts for my xjr1300. Not only do they know the weak points so always have fuel tap rebuild kits and clutch slave cylinder seal kits but they know the standard tuning things people like to do. So they have sourced quality FJ1200 clone carb inlet rubbers (which when fitted to the xjr allow the engine to breath better) even though that is a bike that stopped being built in 1998. Also 4 degree advance ignition timing plates.

    If you buy an xjr1300 and end up on the facebook group you tend to first ask "i just got one of these, anything i should look carefully at or improvements i should make" and you will get told those things and to look at yambits.

    I am sure every other bike and car model with a following has similar websites and so find the one /s without a supplier that you know enough about to become their trusted source of parts. Be that a difficult to source grommet or a bright red inlet manifold for the car cruise fraternity.
     
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    This is my industry. I handle European marketing (with links into sales & product management) for a huge international car parts manufacturer.

    I am not sure if you want to sell online why you are asking where factors buy from, it's not necessarily going to help. But the answer is it varies, based on the factor size but also the product. You will generally find it split as follows for key product groups - braking, filtration, batteries, steering & suspension etc.

    - HUGE Chains - e.g. Euro Car Parts. These are part of a multi-billion $ group (LKQ). They have their own UK distribution centres and have direct supply deals with all of their suppliers either direct from factory or via the suppliers UK or EU warehouses. The buying is being done more and more on a European level rather than by UK buyers. They will also usually have their own brands (cleverly branded up to look like some German or Italian brand they they are "exclusive" on when in fact they have branded it themselves out of China).

    - Larger Independent Chains - Perhaps 20 or 30 branches, an example could be Arnold Clark Autoparts. Or MPD as mentioned above, until very recently they were the largest independent in the country but have been bought by a South African company. These will generally also deal directly with manufacturers but will probably have some UK based national distributors supplying them with infill stock as well as lower value/low running product groups. FPS are delivering multiple times a day into factors, offering same day delivery and are the biggest national distributor by far. Others are available mainly offering next day delivery. These usually also won't have a separate distribution centre like ECP do although they may designate 1 or 2 or 3 branches as "hubs" where they receive most of their deliveries and then farm it out to their other branches from there.

    Then with the smaller independents (generally single branch or a couple of branches) they will be independently owned but will be part of a national buying group (A1, IFA, GAU, CAAR, etc). Apologies if I'm teaching granny to suck eggs but a buying group is basically where all these independents club together and get the suppliers to tender for their combined business. So in theory they have a direct account with the supplier but technically it is the group, rather than the factor, that has the account. So lets say a member in A1 is buying NGK spark plugs directly from NGK. If they leave the group and to go IFA, if IFA don't have an agreement with NGK then they won't be able to continue buying.

    The situation then gets even more complicated because there are two types of buying group - some have their own warehouse, in which case the suppliers deliver in bulk only to the warehouse and then the warehouse splits it out to the individual members. In other cases there is no warehouse and the supplier has to send it directly to each branch which is not always possible if a supplier is only geared up for bulk pallet orders, not single box/single item picking.

    These smaller independents won't necessarily have agreements with suppliers for ALL products. They will rely much more heavily on the UK national distributors such as FPS mentioned above and others. These can offer more rapid service, lower MOV's, and a much bigger basket of goods. Rather than dealing direct with a battery manufacturer, a wipers manufacturer, a spark plug manufacturer etc. you could place a £200 order with a distributor for one wiper, one battery, one spark plug, one set of wheel trims, half a dozen air fresheners and get it all delivered next day if not same day.

    Even the larger chains up to the size of ECP will use the national distributors in SOME cases. Usually for very distress purchases or for consumables, generally very low value items with high SKU count. Think for example things like key fob batteries (each blister packed in a single pack), hose clips, fuel filters, fuses, battery terminals etc.... it's just not a key product line worth investing time and stock in and it's easier just to buy from a distributor who focuses more on those products.

    As somebody said above, historically there was a clear hierarchy:
    MANUFACTURER > NATIONAL DISTRIBUTOR / IMPORTER > LOCAL DISTRIBUTOR > FACTOR > GARAGE > CONSUMER

    This has just been eroded away really and become more and more complex. People have completely skipped the chain in both directions - e.g. ECP are a factor, but they will buy directly from a manufacturer so potentially cut out the two steps in before them, and then also sell directly to a consumer so cutting out the step after them. It's somewhat chaotic! And that's before we even mention e-commerce. Which brings me round to my first point....

    I'm not really sure how any of the above helps you wanting to sell online, but maybe it will. There are already some people doing excellent business online whether it's on their own sites or Amazon/eBay. Some of the sites that appear to be independent are far from it, behind the scenes they will have been set up by, or bought by, a much larger group.

    Believe me when I say you are not the first to come along and say or think that you can "do things differently" to make an impact. I'll be honest - you probably can't. Most people start either dropshipping (and you have to have a VERY convincing case to get a supplier involved with doing that for you) or buying from the National distributors at least to begin with then trying to build to a level that they can buy direct from the manufacturer. Trust me, if you go knocking on the door of a manufacturer expecting to open an account without your ducks in a row about exactly how, what, and when you're going to do things, they will brush you off and point you in the direction of an existing distributor. And even they may take some convincing. To give you an example, we sell a low value product (typically £3-£5 invoice price), we sell in full carton quantities only (5 or 10 pieces per SKU), the full programme requires you to stock 200 SKU's, So your initial stock order might be 5 grand, and your MOV subsequently will be £2000. And we wouldn't entertain you unless you could show easily that you'd be spending an absolute minimum of around £50k a year.

    I haven't even started on the issue of cataloguing and part identification yet, that in itself can be make or break for you.

    I'm more than happy to answer further questions. I could put you in contact with many potential suppliers - ourselves included - covering most product groups. But without wishing to sound arrogant (In fact I think I'm about to sound like Clinton! :)) that wouldn't be without understanding your position, how serious you are and what you think you can achieve. And it would be me passing your details to them rather than the other way round.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Thank you for your amazing answer to my question. This is excellent way describing the automotive parts market and lots information in one answer.

    I am already in contact with huge manufacturer who is willing to work with me and can directly deliver parts to customers with extra cost for delivery of course. This will be a good starting point to grow and become more serious business in all other manufacturer eyes of my company.
     
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    Thank you for your amazing answer to my question. This is excellent way describing the automotive parts market and lots information in one answer.

    I am already in contact with huge manufacturer who is willing to work with me and can directly deliver parts to customers with extra cost for delivery of course. This will be a good starting point to grow and become more serious business in all other manufacturer eyes of my company.
    Hello Suna, could you provide me with the name or contact of the supplier?
     
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    suna

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    manufacturers policy? It should be the first time in UK, you can do it privately in the message I sent you many hours ago, I understand that you come looking for help but you don't want to help.
    I would suggest you to make a list of manifacturers you think you would like to work with and write each of them an email asking if they would want to work with you. If you are going to sell products on your website, they will want to look at your site first before anything else.
    I was told to not to share information they gave me with anyone. They usually don't do the way I mentioned before but really liked my online store to which I gave them access.
    I asked this question on here, just to do the research on ways other companies resource their products in general and not asking direct links to suppliers.

    BusterBloodvessel gave me the best answer above all which gave me insides and hard work this type of industry involves. I don't trade yet but instead preparing my business plan and list of potential suppliers. It will take me minimum of year before I will sell my first product. PLAN WITHOUT PLANNING IS PLAN TO FAIL.
     
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    I am already in contact with huge manufacturer who is willing to work with me and can directly deliver parts to customers with extra cost for delivery of course.
    This is pretty much a fulfilment or dropshipping model.

    But good news for you as it gets you started.
     
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