SEO for Websites

[ukdude859]

Hello

I am new to the forum.

Is there anyone struggling with SEO for their website. I have being doing SEO for a while and would ideally like to turn it into a business.

 

[WebDesires]

Hello mate,
We are not exactly struggling with SEO knowing quite a bit ourselves - but would love to get your feedback on a few sites, and can also share some knowledge back also.

We might also be able to get you some work perhaps as we have a bunch of clients who want an SEO but we primarily focus on tools and the structure SEO more than the nitty gritty stuff which I'm sure you do.

Finally we also have an SEO expert in our partnership from Germany who I can put you in contact with (hes really unwell at the moment but once hes better) and he loves to share his wealth of knowledge too which might be useful to you.

Add us on skype or if you have discord drop me a line on there deano1987#6962

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Hello

I am new to the forum.

Is there anyone struggling with SEO for their website. I have being doing SEO for a while and would ideally like to turn it into a business. I can offer free advice in return for feedback.
Thanks for reading

Have you completed any industry recognised SEO courses?

 

[ukdude859]

Hello. Thank you for your message. I would love to assist and provide feedback on your Websites. Ill send you a dm

 

[fisicx]

Have you completed any industry recognised SEO courses?

Are there any? As there isn’t a professional or regulatory body not really sure there could be a recognised seo course.

Which qualifications do you have?

 

[ukdude859]

You pick things up as you go. There are many courses on SEO out there. However As Fisicx Mentioned I am not 100 percent sure as to whether there is an official SEO course to follow

 

[SEODEV#338055]

I have being doing SEO for a while and would ideally like to turn it into a business.

There are many businesses who need SEO help so you have demand, the question is one of can you consistently supply results in tight timeframes?

Not as easy as one might initially think

Some key factors to building a successful SEO business are

1. Building your own SEO friendly business website
2. Ranking your business website for competitive terms
3. Winning customers searching for these terms
4. Achieving the agreed upon SEO targets with new customers
5. Gaining positive tesimonials from those customers for new customers
6. Lifelong learning, keeping your SEO skills razor sharp

I'm sure @fisicx will have some additional key factor suggestions, rather than simply critiquing my list

Are there any? As there isn’t a professional or regulatory body not really sure there could be a recognised seo course.

Doesn't need to be a regulatory body for industry to recognise a relevant qualification, as far as I'm aware, especially as Google run the SEO show and run a multitude of available SEO courses

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[SEODEV#338055]

You pick things up as you go. There are many courses on SEO out there. However As Fisicx Mentioned I am not 100 percent sure as to whether there is an official SEO course to follow

No official SEO course?

There is an official Google SEO course and Google runs the SEO show

So unless your clients are all coming from Bing, Yahoo or QuackQuackYo.....

 

[ukdude859]

There are 2 really great courses I Been through in the past.
Not sure if there still available.

Kelly Felix - Bring the Fresh
And Google Sniper course.

Both explain SEO Really well for ranking on google.

I hope this helps

 

[SEODEV#338055]

There are 2 really great courses I Been through in the past.
Not sure if there still available.

Kelly Felix - Bring the Fresh
And Google Sniper course.

Both explain SEO Really well for ranking on google.

I hope this helps

Better than official SEO courses direct at Google?

 

[ukdude859]

Yes they go into detail. Step by step for onpage and off page seo.

 

[UKSBD]

There are many businesses who need SEO help so you have demand, the question is one of can you consistently supply results in tight timeframes?

Not as easy as one might initially think

Some key factors to building a successful SEO business are

1. Building your own SEO friendly business website
2. Ranking your business website for competitive terms
3. Winning customers searching for these terms
4. Achieving the agreed upon SEO targets with new customers
5. Gaining positive tesimonials from those customers for new customers
6. Lifelong learning, keeping your SEO skills razor sharp

I'm sure @fisicx will have some additional key factor suggestions, rather than simply critiquing my list


Doesn't need to be a regulatory body for industry to recognise a relevant qualification, as far as I'm aware, especially as Google run the SEO show and run a multitude of available SEO courses

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learndigital.withgoogle.com

Enroll in Analytics Academy courses on Skillshop - Analytics Help

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analytics.google.com

Other SEO courses for specific software

I did the main Digital Garage one a few years ago - https://www.uksbd.co.uk/the-google-digital-garage/

They say it takes 40 hours, in reality it's more like 2

You do get nice badges and a certificate though

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[Deleted member 335660]

Hello

I am new to the forum.

Is there anyone struggling with SEO for their website. I have being doing SEO for a while and would ideally like to turn it into a business.

Hi Dude,

I think everyone struggles with SEO and it’s so boring.

I have a Wordpress site and a free plugin called Yoast that helped me start to understand it. But now I am doing an online course by Ray Field at Freshbananas.

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The good thing for me is his course is quite straight forward and he uses examples and when I got stuck he spoke to me on the telephone.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

I think everyone struggles with SEO and it’s so boring.

I don't stuggle with SEO any more than I struggle making a cup of char

SEO isn't boring if you love the challenge

In how many other UK trades can anybody who can use a computer or smartphone of any age, lifestyle or background and in any country directly compete with the world's biggest corporations straight out of the park, without any prior training or money, and win based purely on commitment?

SEO is one of the best jobs in the UK, highly under-rated and often misunderstood

 

[ukdude859]

If you know what your doing then Seo Can be fun. It is far better to create Quality content rather than spam worthless backlinks. I would recommend a website like "the Content Authority" for High Quality Writers. I highly doubt however that you can compete with High Authority websites in any niche. Its just not worth the effort.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

I highly doubt however that you can compete with High Authority websites in any niche. Its just not worth the effort.

Wrong

You can compete with many high authority websites in many niches with SEO

Just have to think strategically

These big companies often don't update all parts of their pillar content

That's where you can go in at night time and take out the sleeping guards

 

[Deleted member 335660]

I don't stuggle with SEO any more than I struggle making a cup of char

SEO isn't boring if you love the challenge

In how many other UK trades can anybody who can use a computer or smartphone of any age, lifestyle or background and in any country directly compete with the world's biggest corporations straight out of the park, without any prior training or money, and win based purely on commitment?

SEO is one of the best jobs in the UK, highly under-rated and often misunderstood

Yes, bit like when I was a salesman. We were underrated and misunderstood but I made good money at it.
I find it boring, but glad you enjoy it. I find football boring, but a lot of people seem to like it.

 

[japancool]

Is it @Tin who has a website that explains SEO?

 

[fisicx]

Is it @Tin who has a website that explains SEO?

That’s the bunny.

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[SEODEV#338055]

I find football boring, but a lot of people seem to like it.

Depends which team you support

Some teams are more boring than others

Take Arsenal, Reading or MK Dons for example

 

[SEODEV#338055]

That’s the bunny.

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There is no website or course that explains Google SEO better than Google

No other website is kept more up-to-date about Google SEO than Google

All other websites and self-proclaimed Google SEO gurus are less relevant than Google about Google SEO

 

[S Isaac]

If you know what your doing then Seo Can be fun. It is far better to create Quality content rather than spam worthless backlinks. I would recommend a website like "the Content Authority" for High Quality Writers. I highly doubt however that you can compete with High Authority websites in any niche. Its just not worth the effort.

Have you used these before?

Two things worry me about them, a PO box address and not UK based.

I've just sacked my local SEO company after about 4 months all they manged to do was tank our hits, calls and get awfully written articles posted, completely incorrect details in the article and written in American English.

I'm now looking to step in and do it myself and outsource the parts I need (content writing, technical programming/coding etc).

 

[fisicx]

@S Isaac - maybe step back a bit and rethink what you want to achieve. What sort of visitors do you want? What do you want them to do when the land on the site? How do you plan to market your products and services? It may be that you only need to promote the site to a very narrow niche or specific location.

You probably don’t need content writers. If someone asked you a question down the pub what should say to them? Your answer is what you put on the site. If you use a speech to text app you don’t even need to write anything.

 

[S Isaac]

@S Isaac - maybe step back a bit and rethink what you want to achieve. What sort of visitors do you want? What do you want them to do when the land on the site? How do you plan to market your products and services? It may be that you only need to promote the site to a very narrow niche or specific location.

You probably don’t need content writers. If someone asked you a question down the pub what should say to them? Your answer is what you put on the site. If you use a speech to text app you don’t even need to write anything.

I agree, and most of the site is written that way. However, it seems armature and I need more & better content for link building.

We've been slowly getting more hits and calls for the last couple of years, but it all seemed to die off in July/August 2021.

 

[fisicx]

Why do you think you need link building? Ranking is now heavily dependent on your site plus reviews, citations and endorsements. Get your site sorted and most of your work is done. Amateur writing can feel more real than something polished and professional.

 

[S Isaac]

To increase ranking.

I've got a lot to do...........

Keyword research
Revamp the website (going for GeneratePress Pro)
New/additional content
Build up some back links

 

[fisicx]

To increase ranking.

I've got a lot to do...........

Keyword research
Revamp the website (going for GeneratePress Pro)
New/additional content
Build up some back links

Why revamp the website? What’s wrong with the current one. Why new content? Just update the existing content. Why backlinks? They often aren’t necessary.

 

[S Isaac]

Because it's all dated and pretty naff.

 

[fisicx]

Because it's all dated and pretty naff.

Rather that change everything it might just need something changing. Small changes can make a huge difference.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

If someone asked you a question down the pub what should say to them?

This is exactly right

It hits at the very heart of SEO and is the reason you should not outsource copy writing

Write your articles first and foremost as if you were having a conversation with a customer or propective customer

Afterwards you can polish your grammar a little

Final step is SEO which means make human-looking changes to your content so that it is understood by Google, and for this you can use a number of tools depending on your choice of CMS

Try to use a regular template for your articles so that it becomes less and less time consuming, and for this you can also use a content creation checklist

 

[ValenDigital]

Is it @Tin who has a website that explains SEO?

A very good resource you can chck out is: https://learningseo.io/ by alydia solis a highly respected and well known individual in the SEO Industry..

Have you used these before?

Two things worry me about them, a PO box address and not UK based.

I've just sacked my local SEO company after about 4 months all they manged to do was tank our hits, calls and get awfully written articles posted, completely incorrect details in the article and written in American English.

I'm now looking to step in and do it myself and outsource the parts I need (content writing, technical programming/coding etc).

Take a look at brians skyscraper technique: https://backlinko.com/skyscraper-technique which is great for creating content to use in outreach etc. We do it regularly and its great (combined with digital PR works a treat) The hub: https://backlinko.com/hub/seo has all kinds of great info for those that are eager learn because they are sick of being ripped off!

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Be first - create fresh content

Be better - skyscraper technique

Or cheat - paid backlinks

 

[lesliedocherty]

Wrong

You can compete with many high authority websites in many niches with SEO

Just have to think strategically

These big companies often don't update all parts of their pillar content

That's where you can go in at night time and take out the sleeping guards

I agree, if you search for 'Nike History' (pretty competitive & and brings a lot of traffic) we are 4th the same with Adidas History, Carhart and Fjallraven etc.

This is SEO and it's taken us 5+ years of creating great usable content, having faith in rewriting older pages, updating the site, changing the load speeds etc and all the other boring stuff.

We do no outreach at all and do not chase links, but it's a slow long term process

 

[Trapbarn]

Surprised that no one has mentioned the benefits of having a FAQ page and "How to" pages.

They work for us.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Surprised that no one has mentioned the benefits of having a FAQ page and "How to" pages.

They work for us.

FAQ pages are a must for service and product websites

Sadly too many sites list all their FAQ answers on one page

Whereas for maximum SEO effect each question will have its own page and its own H1 title

How to pages are also helpful and the power lies in embedded how to videos from YouTube

 

[Trapbarn]

Thanks for the advice on dedicated pages for each Q/A. We had all 25 of our questions in one page so will take your advice and make 25 new pages tomorrow!

 

[fisicx]

Thanks for the advice on dedicated pages for each Q/A. We had all 25 of our questions in one page so will take your advice and make 25 new pages tomorrow!

But… if the questions relate to specific products you may be better off putting the information on the related product pages.

And if you suddenly change site by splitting all the questions onto separate pages you may lose something google really likes and your ranking drop.

Also: If you have 25 questions there is something wrong with your site. There should never be more than a few FAQ.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Also: If you have 25 questions there is something wrong with your site. There should never be more than a few FAQ.

???????

• 15 x https://retail.yorkshiredales.org.uk/pages/online-shop-faqs
• 19 x https://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/pages/FAQ/ (individual pages)
• 20 x https://www.homebase.co.uk/customer-services/resources/faqs/shopping-faqs.list
• 28 x https://www.poppyshop.org.uk/pages/faqs
• 37 x https://www.blackwellsfarmproduce.co.uk/faqs-new/
• 96 x https://www.tesco.com/help/in-store-faq/
• 123 x https://www.hotelchocolat.com/uk/help/FAQs.html

 

[fisicx]

Those aren't FAQs. They are just dumps for all the stuff they can't be bothered to add in the right place.

For example. The yorkshire dales has their returns policy in the FAQ. Tesco has a 'contact us' section in their FAQ. A well structured site doesn't need a huge list of FAQs. I'd put money on them not even being FAQs. It's just a dump of stuff.

Why would Blackwells hide their delivery area on the FAQ page? Surely this should be on the homepage: we deliver to the whole of the UK.

Forget SEO, this is about user experience.

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Those aren't FAQs. They are just dumps for all the stuff they can't be bothered to add in the right place.

For example. The yorkshire dales has their returns policy in the FAQ. Tesco has a 'contact us' section in their FAQ. A well structured site doesn't need a huge list of FAQs. I'd put money on them not even being FAQs. It's just a dump of stuff.

Why would Blackwells hide their delivery area on the FAQ page? Surely this should be on the homepage: we deliver to the whole of the UK.

Forget SEO, this is about user experience.

So are all these sites badly designed?