Harbour Club: any views or opinons

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I strongly suspect it’s lots of hype and bluster, much like these ‘how to become a property millionaire’ schemes.

reality. The type of skills they are offering take time and experience to build.

Most of their supposed case studies use singular stats in a fairly meaningless manner

if it’s cheapish, could be an interesting punt. But don’t expect and miracles!
I totally agree it takes time and experience (that you only get from doing) I would disagree with 'if its cheap do it' if it is cheap they are just going to hard sell you the next big course you have to do (you know the gold platinum thingy !) find someone who genuinely has a long career in what you want to learn and is sharing the stories warts and all and pay them you will short cut a lot of bumps on the head
 
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I know Jeremy Harbour, owner of the Harbour Club. He was the original proponent (in the UK) of the whole nonsense of buying a business without using your own money! This time next year you'll be a millionaire.

Jemery was followed by Carl Allen and various others all running courses telling you how you can become rich without having any money to invest.

The latest is Jonathan Jay & his Dealmakers' Academy. He goes one better and says he'll teach you how to buy, for just £1, a profitable, established business (not a distressed one).

I know all of the above. and more, and have met most of them in person. Many are smart and savvy operators, but full of BS. That doesn't seem to stop a million people treating them like gurus and following their every word.

Oh, there are also plonkers like Moran Pober teaching the same BS (a guy who attended Jeremy Harbour's course a few years ago and figured there's more money running these courses than in implementing the BS they teach).

If you've had the good sense to follow me in LinkedIn :) you'd have seen my numerous posts over the years calling these people out.

Here's something you may want to watch before you go for one of the free (or low cost) introductory events by any of the characters above.

When I started the Harbour club in 2009 it was the only course of its kind, unfortunately my students who have previously run seminar (hard sell) type businesses have decided it is a format they could use in the 'contreprenuer' type vein. Very unhelpful and zero to do with Harbour club, which is one price and a community not just a course.... oh and we also do lots of deals and teach from experience.
 
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A quick question - maybe you know the answer @Cinton -

It is what I didn't find that is interesting.

I looked at three companies that Harbour claims to have 'turned around' and his name appears precisely (counting carefully from left to right) nowhere. He owns nothing, is not a director and there is no connection with any company with his name on it anywhere that is of any substance. There would appear to be a big collection of failed companies (dormant, struck-off, etc.) but nothing of substance.

On his website, he mentions very proudly MBH Corporation PLC but I could find no connection whatsoever to Harbour, neither as a director, a former director or at any time his having been a person 'of significant interest'. The chairman's report for 2018 seems to indicate similar figures to the ones quoted by JH but the layout is amateurish, to say the least and once again, of comrade JH - no mention.

I can attach JH to only two companies that are still active and they are Popular Palma Properties Spv Limited (net assets -3k, too small to register TO) and Grandose Limited (dormant).

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One thing I did find was an indication that JH seems to have started believing his own hype. The only time JH seems to have run anything larger than a whelk stall was with the launch of 'The Marketing Group' in Singapore.

Mumberella Asia: "it quickly began to unravel, with previously-announced acquisitions, including a deal for three other Australian agencies, collapsing along with the share price. It led to question marks about management ethics and claims the growth strategy was more smoke and mirrors than an attempt at genuine sustainable expansion."

Full article here -

The adult CEO that took over to pick up the pieces, Adam Graham, stated - "It’s very important when running a public company to under promise and over deliver and I think my predecessors got very excited. They are very ambitious and optimistic people and they haven’t run a public company before. As such perhaps expectations were not managed as best they could.”

Which is a nice way of saying that JH didn't have a clue and didn't really know what he was doing.

So I suppose my question would be, have I missed something? I have been deliberately specific in what I have found in just a few minutes and I am making no accusations of misrepresentation of the facts by JH or anyone else, but the 'icky' feeling of 'smoke and mirrors' as is unequivocally directed at JH in that article really is very pronounced.


Hi Jeremy here,

I am afraid you wont make it as a private investigator.... when looking at MBH did you see it was founded by and 100% owned by Unity Group (my company) it a licensed user of the Agglomeration governance structure (all over its webisite, prospectus and very public disclosure) IP invented by me (book published and registered trade mark) and that IP is registered to Unity group (100% me and I am the sole director). I am still a major shareholder and again listed in the prospectus as such.

Regards TMG, that is a great lesson we teach in Harbour club, the quote you have chosen is from the new management who drive it to bankruptcy 2 years after I stepped down by borrowing money, rebranding and investing all the borrowed money in blockchain and big salaries for management. I have done over 100 deals and on the Harbour club we digest the ones that worked and the ones that didn't, its the best way to learn
 
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Clinton: Thanks for the free advice - wasn't really what was asked but you clearly wanted to demonstrate your "knowledge" so there you go. Re Numpty, lovely - I was actually very polite till you starting talking down to me. Cheers, best of luck.

Yeah Clinton can be a bit patronising,

His business tag line.... and I am not joking is 'sell you business for more than its worth'
or Fraud as we call it.

but remember axe to grind... Clinton tries to hoodwink buyers, and I educate them... we are on the opposite side of the table so of course we will always joust.
 
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Quite right! After seeing said accounts I'm racking my brains about what I could run training courses on...
I started my course back in 2009 as something to do with people who wanted me to consult or become a non exec, it was a fair exchange of time for money, it has since grown quite considerably, we dont do any teaser events, upsells or mastermind programs or the usual BS we teach all the info warts and all and then have a supportive community to help people do deals, there actually is not a huge amount of profit in the training looks great from outside as people look at the numbers and the ticket price, but we invest in marketing and sales and we include food & accommodation in the price. A single deal is worth more than the profit on 1000 students, but because people see how busy we are (after 9 years of success to lean on) they think copying the idea but with all the bulshit 'rush to the back of the room, only one place left on the 25k gold platinum mastermind etc is the way to financial freedom. Most of the people doing this come from that world, so thats a model they understand I buy and sell companies, have done for decades, that is my area of expertise, i am a one trick pony, but the only one who shares how its actually done good and bad.
 
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    Jeremy, nice try me old son! :)

    But I think you'll find that the members here aren't like the muppets you've got around you at LinkedIn or at your own business who think you're Christ reincarnated. You won't find a flood of them rushing to your support. Here you'll find people who've actually run businesses and are a little less naive.

    The "this is not a get rich quick scheme, you have to put in the work" is what every seller of Get Rich Quick schemes says of their plan / program! That's part of appearing credible and getting aforesaid muppets to sign up. "If you are willing to put in some work, you can become a millionaire". And, the muppets think, I'm willing to put in some work, so this time next year I'm going to be a millionaire.

    Logical, right?

    I get your point about the limited info at Companies House. I understand because I, too, have very little history there given how I've operated over the last 35 years. But it's easy to make all kinds of claims about dozens of done deals and talk about millions of pounds. BS is easy. It's a lot more difficult to actually answer questions and demonstrate your expertise (and have it torn apart when you put forward bullsh*t)!

    I'm sure you have the balls to do that. Hang around and answer some threads!

    Yeah Clinton can be a bit patronising,
    A bit? C'mon. Give credit where it's due!

    See what I did after typing that exclamation mark? I hit "Enter". It creates a new para. Try that sometime. It makes your posts easier to read. Full stops work great, too. Use them liberally.

    His business tag line.... and I am not joking is 'sell you business for more than its worth'
    or Fraud as we call it.

    Clinton is well known on these forums for telling people who have worthless businesses that he can help them sell for more than their business is worth. He sells a course teaching them how to fraud buyers.

    What an absolute plonker!
     
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    Jeremy, nice try me old son! :)

    But I think you'll find that the members here aren't like the muppets you've got around you at LinkedIn or at your own business who think you're Christ reincarnated. You won't find a flood of them rushing to your support. Here you'll find people who've actually run businesses and are a little less naive.

    The "this is not a get rich quick scheme, you have to put in the work" is what every seller of Get Rich Quick schemes says of their plan / program! That's part of appearing credible and getting aforesaid muppets to sign up. "If you are willing to put in some work, you can become a millionaire". And, the muppets think, I'm willing to put in some work, so this time next year I'm going to be a millionaire.

    Logical, right?

    I get your point about the limited info at Companies House. I understand because I, too, have very little history there given how I've operated over the last 35 years. But it's easy to make all kinds of claims about dozens of done deals and talk about millions of pounds. BS is easy. It's a lot more difficult to actually answer questions and demonstrate your expertise (and have it torn apart when you put forward bullsh*t)!

    I'm sure you have the balls to do that. Hang around and answer some threads!


    A bit? C'mon. Give credit where it's due!

    See what I did after typing that exclamation mark? I hit "Enter". It creates a new para. Try that sometime. It makes your posts easier to read. Full stops work great, too. Use them liberally.



    Clinton is well known on these forums for telling people who have worthless businesses that he can help them sell for more than their business is worth. He sells a course teaching them how to fraud buyers.

    What an absolute plonker!
    Happy to answer peoples questions, I don't think I have people leaping to my defence on Linked in, you made a nonsense comment to a post saying you shouldn't look for motivations from a seller and a bunch of people called you out on it because it was nonsense.

    However we have lots of people happily doing deals, you can keep telling us its impossible and we will just keep doing the deals. It really doesn't affect me, but when you try and lump me and the harbour club in with the charlatans out there, of course I am going to reply.

    I would have happy to answer any questions here on how buy and sell companies, especially without capital. Its a great entrepreneurial tool to have in the box. Most information out there is all about building customer value, leadership, marketing sales etc not so much on building share holder value and basically getting time and money back.
     
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    Excellent, I look forward to those contributions. Let me clear, I do think you have a fair bit of experience and can make some useful contributions here. Maybe start a thread about seller motivations. I'll stay out. Let's see what the members think about whether you're taking unfair advantage of sellers by playing the games you play ;)

    I know your view on business brokers. It's a view you share with the "charlatans" you mention. This tells me that, like them, you've only ever dealt with the low-end stuff i.e. small deals handled by the likes of business transfer agents - KBS, Intelligent Business Transfer and the like.

    Nothing wrong with having experience only in that end of the market but that's where you find a lot of crap advice, bad brokers, exploitative contracts, exaggerated valuations, whatever.

    If you've only dealt with the riff-raff it would be natural to come to the conclusions you've reached on intermediaries.

    However, when it comes to mid-market (above a few million in EV) the UK, as the investment bank of the EU, is served by some of the world's top talent. They don't even call themselves brokers. They have all kinds of other names - corporate finance firms, M&A advisories, boutique investment banks. They are filled to the brim with ICAEWs, lawyers, tax experts etc., they are FCA regulated, they are mega savvy. These are serious firms each with more expertise than all you gurus put together. And there are hundreds of them.

    You'll find some of them in my list of 100 intermediaries under the letter "c". You seem to have no experience dealing with this type of broker, the firms who handle the best deals coming to market.

    Nothing wrong with that. But your views about intermediaries give away to me that some of the claims you make about big deals are a little bit on the bullsh*t end of the patter as you seem to have only dealt with dodgy business brokers selling micro and small businesses.
     
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    Excellent, I look forward to those contributions. Let me clear, I do think you have a fair bit of experience and can make some useful contributions here. Maybe start a thread about seller motivations. I'll stay out. Let's see what the members think about whether you're taking unfair advantage of sellers by playing the games you play ;)


    Of course I am aware of and deal with many corporate finance firms (boutique investment banks), that is pretty much how my firm in Singapore is structured, it morphed from pretty much a family office style operation, legal, finance and investment advisory (but just for me) to capital markets and deeper DD function, so we can cut out a large chunk of the external fees and move more dynamically in transactions.

    My point is the one man band dirt poor useless advisors who think they are more important than the buyers and add precisely no value. If they did they would be clearly more successful as the free market rewards people adding value.

    I personally have not bought a loss making or turnaround business for probably 5 years, they have all been profitable usually aim for 500k to 5m profit, occasionally little smaller or a little bigger. Never with cash from me, all win win deals that work for both parties and designed to create value for all concerned.

    The great thing is since 2018 we actually show our pipeline and closes on our company site so you can see the deals we are working on, names hidden obviously, and the deals completed, names published.
     
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    Of course I am aware of and deal with many corporate finance firms (boutique investment banks),
    I call bullsh*t.

    Two reasons:
    1. Your public utterances display your utter ignorance on the topic.
    2. They wouldn't deal with the likes of you trying to get something on the free.

    They're there to get their clients a big chunk of money, otherwise they don't get their six figure fee. They'll laugh at your "win-win" deals if you don't have a big chunk of your own cash.

    I personally have not bought a loss making or turnaround business for probably 5 years, they have all been profitable usually aim for 500k to 5m profit, occasionally little smaller or a little bigger. Never with cash from me, all win win deals that work for both parties and designed to create value for all concerned.
    I call bullsh*t again.

    Anybody can make big claims. This isn't a sales pitch for your course, and the poster you find in this forum isn't your average idiot. Impress us with your knowledge, not with the bullsh*t.

    Now go start a thread or two, or reply to a thread or two and actually contribute something useful as you said you'd do. Stop talking about you, start helping others by answering some questions.

    I'm guessing you'll just fizzle out here and stop posting when you realise there isn't a pool of gullible wannabe millionaires. But I'd be delighted if you prove me wrong.
     
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    There are thousands of such firms. Literally!

    Most of these firms are owned by people who think that they, too, can buy an established, profitable business for £1 and become millionaires by next year.

    The courses out there encouraging these people advise them to use words like "private equity" and "capital" in the name of the Ltd company to give the impression that they are serious players. Companies House need to add "private equity" and "capital" to the restricted list of words that can be used in company names!

    Jeez. It's like a compendium of red-flags. Topped off by 'serial entrepreneur'.
    Play the game for a bit and you'll soon learn to recognise from the copy on the page which "buy a business without investing money" course they attended - whether Jeremy Harbour's, Carl Allen's, Jonathan Jay's, Moran Pober's, Shane Stamford's etc etc. And this month there's a new kid on the block - Sebastian Amieva of Big Ben Venture Partners Ltd. Sebastian seems to have been a student of Moran Pober's, the Moran Pober who was once a student of Jeremy Harbour's who was a student of, perhaps, people like Dan Pena.

    Lots of venture capitalists out there without any capital.

    I speak with numerous corporate finance firms - that's my day job - and many of them moan about these characters, muppets who have ideas way beyond their liquid capital and who think corporate finance firms will entertain their money-less "win-win" propositions.
     
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    Happy to answer peoples questions...

    I would have happy to answer any questions here on how buy and sell companies, especially without capital.

    Am looking forward to those answers ;) but haven't seen any over the last month or so. You're leaving these all to me to answer. That's not fair!
     
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    Play the game for a bit and you'll soon learn to recognise from the copy on the page which "buy a business without investing money" course they attended - whether Jeremy Harbour's, Carl Allen's, Jonathan Jay's, Moran Pober's, Shane Stamford's etc etc. And this month there's a new kid on the block - Sebastian Amieva of Big Ben Venture Partners Ltd. Sebastian seems to have been a student of Moran Pober's, the Moran Pober who was once a student of Jeremy Harbour's who was a student of, perhaps, people like Dan Pena.

    And there's a new kid on the block, discovered today - Ethical Empire Enlistment. He charges £596.40.

    It's getting cheaper & cheaper to become a millionaire.

    It used to be that you joined some club in the harbour & paid a silly £10K to learn how to buy a million pound business without using money.

    Yes, without money! Just two glasses of tap water, some garden soil and half a teaspoon of table salt. Voila!

    Then came cheaper become-a-millionaire courses, new & improved versions.

    And they claimed you could do it even do it without the table salt!

    Just tap water & garden soil (& you only need ONE glass of water).

    But the "Dealmakers Academy" and other new playas still charged several grand.

    Now you can get those same skills for just £596.40!

    In the words of the maestro involved:

    "your life could change in an instant"
    "You could be completely broke and still become the owner of a million dollar company."
    "capitalise on the GREATEST transfer of wealth in the history of the planet. And you can do it even if you're dead broke!"

    All for less than £600!

    £596.40 to be exact.

    It used to be £597, but there's a sale on now. Hurry!
     
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    Given the amount of, in my opinion, unfounded hatred towards Jeremy Harbour and the Harbour club, as someone whom has completed the course, I felt compelled to write a review in their defence. I don’t know anything about the other courses so can’t comment. It does seem though, that people are frustrated with other courses and some of that frustration is now unfairly tarnishing Jeremy and his course, since the feed was supposed to be about just that.


    For the record, I did the Harbour Club course in September 2018. I appreciate that I am jumping into the ring here with people who might choose to give me grief or question my own successes or integrity. So I will keep my own personal involvements and successes out of this. I shall simply say I am very pleased with my decision to attend the course and do not regret it at all. I learned many valuable new things on the three day course, gained several valuable contacts and made some close friends in the process. The course has helped me bolster my own personal existing investment strategies and also taught me some really powerful, unconventional and creative ideas that I can use on my own company or companies that I work with or invest in. I know that the investment was worthwhile. It is the most expensive course I have attended, but it has also provided me with by far the most value.


    Like any course that you might go on, you need the right mindset. Anyone who interprets the marketing of HC as a get rich quick ‘scheme’, they will be disappointed. Those that see it as potentially fantastic knowledge, experience, on-going support and encouragement to put serious work in, and THEN be rewarded significantly; you sir, will find that the course over-exceeds your expectation. The time frame of those rewards depends on the time, skill and commitment that you are willing to put in. If anyone goes to any of these things and believes their life will change as a result of just attending a course, then the joke is on them. And Jeremy puts huge emphasis during the course towards taking action, holding each other accountable, creating action plans etc. All success takes hard work and tenacity to keep going until you master it.


    As with all these courses, naturally there are a proportion of people who do nothing with the new knowledge they have gained, or give up too early. But I know many people who have benefited hugely from the Harbour Club. Indeed, many of these people come back to the Harbour club to present and share their recent success stories, of which there are plenty to choose from. This is anything but 3 days of listening purely to Jeremy. It involves a large number of other speakers and teachers. I know I have gained the value back and much more. And I will continue benefiting from this course and from knowing Jeremy and many others that I met, along the way.


    Jeremy has achieved massive success through his own creative business genius and his hard work. The fact that he is willing to share that creative genius, albeit for a price, I think is a great opportunity for the rest of us. The course covers so many aspects, including buying and turning around stressed businesses, as well as acquiring profitable businesses, business mergers or the creation of groups of businesses for the greater benefit of everyone involved. It even covers the best strategic options and skills required for selling a company.


    Just because these deals don’t involve large bags of cash (which are so few and far between these days for small business sellers), doesn’t mean that it isn’t still the right opportunity or the best opportunity for a business seller. There are many structures that allow businesses to sell and realise good value for that business in the process. I know of business owners whom have transacted such deals and are very happy with the outcome. In fact, I think it is to the detriment of many business owners that are struggling to sell their business, that some brokers instantly write off these people, instead of engaging with them and trying to understand how it might work for both the business owner and the broker. The way that this forum describes some of these structures is simply not true, at least for the Harbour Club ones. It just shows a lack of understanding. Better to take an open mind for a potential gain and then decide on an individual basis whether there is mileage and value in further conversations. Vet them as a potential acquirer by listening to them and engaging with them, and you just might find a win-win, instead of another failed business selling process.


    I didn’t see any of the shady or immoral tactics on the course, that have been mentioned in this feed.


    Bare in mind that this feed will look one sided because most successful investors are too busy to even find this feed, and many will be nervous about sticking their neck out on a feed that has so many criticisers. So I hope that this review evens the score for anyone who is trying to work out whether to do the course, or for that matter whether to work with someone whom has completed the Harbour Club course. If you have an interest in business, believe that Jeremy’s knowledge will get you a long way towards achieving much greater things, and understand that success doesn’t come without some hard work thrown in, then I believe attending this course will be a great investment for you.


    Thanks,


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    ... most successful investors are too busy to even find this feed, and many will be nervous about sticking their neck out on a feed that has so many criticisers....
    I think you'll be surprised at how many people have read this thread. I've had a least a dozen connection requests in LinkedIn from people who've mentioned that they heard about me from this thread (I don't accept most connection requests I get in LinkedIn, but that's a different story).

    For every person so contacting me there must be several others who've read this thread and just gone away quietly.

    I'll say again, Jeremy's content is better than the content of people like Jonathan Jay. But Jeremy shares blame with the Jonathans and Moran Pobers of this world for the vast number of numpties out there bothering people like me, not to mention bothering business brokers and business sellers, hoping to get something for nothing.

    It is difficult to exaggerate just how much of a problem this has become in the industry. There's a flood of £1 Charlies about, muppets who are wasting everybody else's time (and their own time).

    Sure, there's the odd business that would benefit from an arrangement like the one you describe. What most of the £1 Charlies don't realise is that for every business like that around there are probably 1,000 other £1 Charlies interested in it. That's thanks to the numerous courses around.

    People who've attended a JH, or other course, often come to the table with their top USP being "deal structure", the ability to talk a lot of bullsh*t around structuring the deal for a "win-win" solution. They're not bringing cash, or contacts, or talent. They're bringing "deal structure". That's not a great USP.

    "Win-win" is one of the key red flags. When someone starts talking win-win, my bullsh*t detector goes off and makes this awful noise audible in neighbouring counties. Almost every Jeremy Harbour candidate mentions win-win at some point. It almost like they need to convince the business seller out of that deep seated feeling that he's being screwed.

    The latest kid on the block who'll teach you how to become a millionaire by buying businesses is Michael Kohler. If you don't have time to watch the whole video, do spend 30 seconds to watch from 7:00 to 7:30. Comedy gold!

     
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    So I just need to buy 10 companies making £1m each and fire loads of people and do the work myself + some better marketing and they could be making £50m very quickly.

    Let me put it in the calendar.

    I see you are sceptical. That's not unusual.

    Come to the seminar and meet Jason. Jason was a nobody and now he owns two Ferraris and a holiday home in Monaco. That can be you!

    This is not a get rich quick scheme. You have to put in the work. But if you're willing to work, you can become a millionaire.

    Sign up for the seminar, pay your £5,997, get on the road to financial freedom and taking control of your life.

    Do it today so you don't forget.

    (Bonus: You'll get hot babes desperate to sleep with you. But that's only if you register NOW.)
     
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    The latest kid on the block who'll teach you how to become a millionaire by buying businesses is Michael Kohler. If you don't have time to watch the whole video, do spend 30 seconds to watch from 7:00 to 7:30. Comedy gold!


    But he’s a CEO, so he must be good.

    Actually it’s strangely similar toRBS’s plan.

    Which went well.
     
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    Hello all,
    I was looking for a new business to invest in, and as I was googling I came across a blurb for the above business.
    They offer training to provide services to businesses that are "distressed", in order to turn them around, re-jiggle their set-up to make them a bit more buoyant.
    They don't seem to be offered on franchise sites, but their set-up appeals to me.
    Does anyone have any insights or experiences of these people?

    I can't seem to find any reviews of them anywhere. They recently held a 3-day seminar in London.
    (just as a background, I am already working as a freelance software developer, and am looking for additional skills to expand my repertoire.)
    The only thing that fussed me was the long lead-times to getting any income. Also, the fact the businesses to be approached would be distressed. Also that Harbour Club seem to have so few reviews anywhere.

    thank you for your consideration.

    I joined The Harbour Club little over a year ago and it has literally changed my life. At a first glance the price may seem a bit high but after having taken the course I can confirm: it is worth every penny. There is a ton of free info on the web site if you are not ready or able to sign up - enough to get started. This is not a "get rich quick" trick though. I got all the tools I needed at the event but the tools are not effective if you leave them sitting on the shelf, you actually have to use them to get results and I definitely got results. The best part about HC is access to an incredible network of high quality individuals and new content constantly being added to the toolbox. Added bonus - there is no up-selling of any kind, you get all you need for the price of one ticket.
     
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    Any chance of a mod checking some IP addresses here?

    I hope you’re not suggesting that these 2 kind people who took time out on the same day to put us right on HC are somehow related?

    @lanac @Simon_B it would be really useful if you could identify yourselves and your various business interests so we can better understand what we are missing out on.
     
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    @Mark T Jones this seems to be @lanac 's site: http://www.coronadoresults.com/ - at least its the only thing I can find that matches the company name in his profile.

    I had a look at Jeremy Harbour's website for the first time. Apparently "Coutts Entrepreneur of the Year" runner up three times. No one else seems to have won that award (try Googling), although some people have won this: https://aboutus.ft.com/en-gb/announ...ncial-times-launch-women-in-asia-awards-2010/ - only for Women in Asia.

    He is also apparently an "Shareholder and Advisory Director for The Mint National Bank", a tiny American - but he is not on the board or mentioned in the site: https://www.themint.bank/About-Us/Board-of-Directors

    He is also apparently a DBS Business Class Advisor - but apparently not a "star advisor": https://www.dbs.com.sg/sme/businessclass/advisors.page
     
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    Apparently "Coutts Entrepreneur of the Year" runner up three times.
    That's nothing. I won the British National M&A Entrepreneur Award. Note, I wasn't runner up. I was the winner. And I've won it now for 367 years in a row.

    But, well spotted @gpietersz ;), I never thought to check on that Coutts award thing. So, thanks, that's been useful.

    This is not a "get rich quick" trick though.
    Duh, I already said that! Please stop nicking my lines.
     
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