Why are the Government threatening to make mask wearing in shops compulsory ?

[simon field]

I wear something called a seat belt in the car. Been injured in many car crashes over the years - never had a head injury while wearing a seatbelt.

Then consider body armour, even the knee & elbow pads that bmx’ers wear, they can all help prevent the injuries that a seat belt can’t, if you want to be really safe.

 

[Mr D]

Then consider body armour, even the knee & elbow pads that bmx’ers wear, they can all help prevent the injuries that a seat belt can’t, if you want to be really safe.

To be safest simply be somewhere else.

Have avoided more accidents than I have been in. Full suit of plate armour would be too hard to move in - have enough trouble wearing steel toecap boots for gardening.
Perhaps some sort of safety cocoon for passengers in a vehicle? Ummmm.... Wonder if that has been done yet.
Thanks for the tip about preventing injuries, will see if one of my ideas can be altered a little to meet your requirements. Not as if safety is a small cash cow.

 

[Nico Albrecht]

With diabetes type 2 taking a much bigger death toll than Covid maybe the masks will stop people putting cake in their mouths.

 

[Mr D]

With diabetes type 2 taking a much bigger death toll than Covid maybe the masks will stop people putting cake in their mouths.

Is cake a leading factor of death among those diagnosed with type 2?

Got a sister with type 2, never eats cake. She cannot stand the taste of gluten free cake and regular cakes will make her very ill.

 

[Bob Morgan]

Have avoided more accidents than I have been in.

How many have you caused?

 

[Bob Morgan]

With diabetes type 2 taking a much bigger death toll than Covid maybe the masks will stop people putting cake in their mouths.

Along with Polio and Tuberculosis, which in some parts of the world have a greater daily death toll than COVID!

 

[Bob Morgan]

Q: Why are the Government threatening to make mask wearing in shops compulsory ?
A: Apparently 'Cake?'

Can we have have the Budgies, Charlie?

 

[Mr D]

How many have you caused?

Let's think - 3.
One turned out the little boy had just fallen over. Car had not hit him. I did not know that at the time I stopped the car though.
One the car slid on a patch of ice at a few MPH.
And one the car stopped a runaway car that had slipped its handbrake.

 

[alan1302]

With diabetes type 2 taking a much bigger death toll than Covid maybe the masks will stop people putting cake in their mouths.

Why do people feel the need to compare illnesses and the number I'd deaths

Along with Polio and Tuberculosis, which in some parts of the world have a greater daily death toll than COVID!

Being old had a greater death rate as well - what is your point?

 

[Nico Albrecht]

Why do people feel the need to compare illnesses and the number I'd deaths

You might wanna lookup definitions of Illness, disease, and sickness. Diabetes type 2 is easily preventable and can be reversed but cost of 90 billion for the NHS.

 

[Ian J]

You might wanna lookup definitions of Illness, disease, and sickness. Diabetes type 2 is easily preventable and can be reversed but cost of 90 billion for the NHS.

The only way that type 2 diabetes can be eradicated en masse is to ban all high calorie food and sugary drinks which is never going to happen.

Sometimes it can be reversed bit it requires a drastic diet plus loads of exercise which probably rules it out for most people.

 

[Mr D]

The only way that type 2 diabetes can be eradicated en masse is to ban all high calorie food and sugary drinks which is never going to happen.

Sometimes it can be reversed bit it requires a drastic diet plus loads of exercise which probably rules it out for most people.

Indeed - especially as plenty of people who have high calorie food and sugary drinks will not get it.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

This thread has well and truly deviated from the point, and needed closed about 16 pages ago.

@fisicx PLEASE!!

 

[Mark T Jones]

Sometimes it can be reversed bit it requires a drastic diet plus loads of exercise which probably rules it out for most people.

Being pedantic, it doesn’t require loads of exercise, it does require more movement and a change of lifestyle, which probably leads to the same conclusion.

We can follow Gordon’s advice and close the thread now.

 

[billybob99]

Am I late to the party.

 

[alan1302]

Diabetes is an illness - lots of illnesses can be cured

 

[simon field]

Hey everyone, don’t forget - it’s absolutely fine to wander around the shops today or tomorrow with your face out for all to see, but suddenly at the stroke of midnight tomorrow something’s happening which means you must wear one in the shop!

(but not if you wanna go get hammered in a pub)

Incompetence at it’s best!

 

[Interestedobserver]

Hey everyone, don’t forget - it’s absolutely fine to wander around the shops today or tomorrow with your face out for all to see, but suddenly at the stroke of midnight tomorrow something’s happening which means you must wear one in the shop!

(but not if you wanna go get hammered in a pub)

Incompetence at it’s best!

Don't worry Simon. Based on everywhere else around the world. Soon enough we will all have to wear them inside pubs and restaurants soon. Either that or we aren't allowed in them again. And they are shutdown again.

All the news headlines today are about new surges all over the world. And lockdowns being re-imposed.

Melbourne now threatening to increase their 6 week lockdown as cases continue to rise and people are taking any notice of the rules.

I can't see anything we are doing different to other places around the world that means that aint going to happen to us as well.

 

[alan1302]

Hey everyone, don’t forget - it’s absolutely fine to wander around the shops today or tomorrow with your face out for all to see, but suddenly at the stroke of midnight tomorrow something’s happening which means you must wear one in the shop!

(but not if you wanna go get hammered in a pub)

Incompetence at it’s best!

Is that not the same for any new law/rule that comes into place?

You don't need one for th pubs because you can't wear a mask and drink at the same time.

 

[simon field]

Is that not the same for any new law/rule that comes into place?

You don't need one for th pubs because you can't wear a mask and drink at the same time.

No, the government is just incompetent.

 

[Mr D]

Diabetes is an illness - lots of illnesses can be cured

Some are merely treated.
Not cured.

 

[Mr D]

Is that not the same for any new law/rule that comes into place?

You don't need one for th pubs because you can't wear a mask and drink at the same time.

Give it time, some enterprising person will come up with a method of using a paper straw and a mask without breaking seal.

 

[alan1302]

Some are merely treated.
Not cured.

That's what I said

 

[Ian J]

You don't need one for the pubs because you can't wear a mask and drink at the same time.

Oh yes you can

 

[Mr D]

Oh yes you can

One ineffective mask..

 

[simon field]

One ineffective mask..

No it isn’t. She’s drinking through a straw, sucking liquid in, whilst keeping the nose covered.

It’s perfectly effective, you just like trying to be contrary the whole time, for effect.

 

[Forgot password]

Mr D are you a Russian spy?

Yes?
No?
Niet?

On a more serious note re this thread and I genuinely mean this - how are turban wearers going to wear a mask ?

 

[simon field]

Mr D are you a Russian spy?

Yes?
No?
Niet?

On a more serious note re this thread and I genuinely mean this - how are turban wearers going to wear a mask ?

Many muzzles have that stretchy elastic, some of them are probably stretchy enough to encompass the large girth of even the most bulbous turban!

 

[simon field]

I’m interested to see what people do with their muzzles when they’re in between shops.

Leave them on, take them off, Put them in a grubby handbag, wear them on the head like a hat, keep touching it?

Ah, here’s a cafe - take it off! Ok into the next shop, muzzle back on again, then up the street with muzzle off till the next shop which has a grubby door handle. Muzzle on, open door, buy a 2020 Nicky Minaj calendar, leave the shop, muzzle off again.

Utter nonsense, and the end of many innocent businesses.

 

[Forgot password]

I meant more the no ears bit.. never mind.

 

[Forgot password]

Si, you know it’s all to give the impression this thing is serious as how can the government now just say - right that’s it we’re all good now back to work everybody and all can carry on as before - utter BS.

They couldn’t risk the backlash of the supposed care home deaths so they need to hang it out longer.

 

[RobinBHM]

supposed care home deaths

What was supposed about it?

 

[RobinBHM]

Si, you know it’s all to give the impression this thing is serious

It is serious.

In the UK 60,000 excess deaths despite lockdown.

Covid is currently raging in Miami and in India. Do you think the UK should allow flights to those regions.

 

[RobinBHM]

Along with Polio and Tuberculosis, which in some parts of the world have a greater daily death toll than COVID!

So presumably adding Covid to the mix will mean more deaths.
I don't think it's an either or option

 

[RobinBHM]

The only way that type 2 diabetes can be eradicated en masse is to ban all high calorie food and sugary drinks which is never going to happen.

Sometimes it can be reversed bit it requires a drastic diet plus loads of exercise which probably rules it out for most people.

Perhaps the solution is to look at the cause.......capitalism.

"De Vogli pointed specifically to the U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK as countries with capitalistic economies and high rates of obesity. He also noted that Norway, Japan and Switzerland all subsidize small farmers heavily and have relatively thin populations"

 

[Mr D]

No it isn’t. She’s drinking through a straw, sucking liquid in, whilst keeping the nose covered.

It’s perfectly effective, you just like trying to be contrary the whole time, for effect.

And the protection the hole gives against water droplets reaching the mouth is what?
The protection the zip gives?
Exactly.

May as well not wear the mask. Hence me saying its ineffective as a mask.

Use it for decoration only. Don't use it to reduce your chances of breathing in water droplets containing the virus.

 

[Mr D]

I’m interested to see what people do with their muzzles when they’re in between shops.

Leave them on, take them off, Put them in a grubby handbag, wear them on the head like a hat, keep touching it?

Ah, here’s a cafe - take it off! Ok into the next shop, muzzle back on again, then up the street with muzzle off till the next shop which has a grubby door handle. Muzzle on, open door, buy a 2020 Nicky Minaj calendar, leave the shop, muzzle off again.

Utter nonsense, and the end of many innocent businesses.

Wear gloves.
Wear the mask once - wash hands after taking it off and wash the mask before using again. Can sterilize the mask instead but not everyone has the equipment at home to do that.

Oh by the way, next time you are in hospital, rip the masks off the medical staff. Utter nonsense as you say.

Or are you being a hypocrite?

 

[Mr D]

Perhaps the solution is to look at the cause.......capitalism.

"De Vogli pointed specifically to the U.S., Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the UK as countries with capitalistic economies and high rates of obesity. He also noted that Norway, Japan and Switzerland all subsidize small farmers heavily and have relatively thin populations"

Not following how the subsidy of small farmers leads to thin populations. Both are effects.

Capitalist economies and high rates of obesity - again not seeing the link.

 

[Mr D]

It is serious.

In the UK 60,000 excess deaths despite lockdown.

Covid is currently raging in Miami and in India. Do you think the UK should allow flights to those regions.

We apparently did not want to cut back on flights into the country from other places that had the virus.

While there was reduced numbers of people flying there wasn't a cessation.

The virus appeared in November in China?. We cut off flights from China the same day? No?
Then too late.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...nas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

 

[simon field]

And the protection the hole gives against water droplets reaching the mouth is what?

Total protection. Lips are sealed around the straw, or do you drink through a straw with your mouth wide open?

The protection the zip gives?

Again, complete protection. It’s a zip.



May as well not wear the mask. Hence me saying its ineffective as a mask.

What a dense argument!

Use it for decoration only. Don't use it to reduce your chances of breathing in water droplets containing the virus.

What water droplets? You mean her drink? Stop pretending to be thick!