Lockdown Review on Sunday
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I haven’t seen a list - I think it’s a case of not everyone waits or needs to be told what to do by the government, they just take sensible precautions and get on with it.
Different round your way is it?
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B&Q though? Sure, they sell essential repair equipment but they also sell...plants...and paddling pools...and mirrors. I assumed they'd limit the aisles to essential only but no, ours still lets you buy anything you want.
B&M is another one, they sell 'essential food' so can stay open. There's only one food aisle though, the rest is gardening/homeware and non essentials but you can still buy all of that.
As for the review, I expect they want people back to work ASAP. Clubs/Pubs and events places will remain closed for the foreseeable, nobody will want to go to them anyway but office spaces will start opening and possibly places that can serve customers outside, if they queue 2 metres apart near a service window or drive-through. No different to waiting outside of a supermarket.
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I think they will loosen the restrictions, a bit at first, with more to come in the future and see what happens to the infection rate. For instance they're talking about allowing people to visit close family members and go for picnics in the park. When it comes to getting workers back to work,the trouble is most of their plans revolve around London where it would be virtually impossible to have people socially distancing themselves when commuting on public transport. However in more rural areas it would be much easier to get people back to work, so really there need to be a phased re-opening, but phased due to demographic and well as business sector.
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I'd say that face masks and either disposable gloves or handwashing/sanitising facilities will be a must for all public transport.
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All the garden centres around our way are closed with one exception as they are primarily an animal supplies centre with a garden centre attached. They have however closed the garden centre element and have had at least 2 visits from the police to ensure they weren’t selling plants.
The list of what can and can’t be open is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...her-businesses-and-premises-to-close-guidance
However, I don’t really feel that some shops (and garden centres are the obvious candidate) should have ever been forced to close.
Garden centres in particular would be fairly straightforward to implement social distancing measures as they usually have a lot of space and big car parks.
On Sunday I’m expecting to see an announcement on the relaxation of the rules to allow ‘big shops’ to reopen within a week or so - those on the retail parks etc, and by the end of the month all shops can reopen and most coffee shops etc will be re open for takeaway. I’d expect Furlough to be extended but only for specific businesses such as Cinemas, eat in restaurants and hotels etc as they will likely be closed for at least another couple of months.
Not sure on schools - possibly the end of May as they would have ‘post half term’ with a shorter summer holiday and would have to thin the classrooms out a bit. I originally thought they’d wait until September but don’t think they will now.
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Yep - plus we’re used to pulling carrots and sugar beet out of the ground with our bare hands so we tend to wash our hands quite a lot anyway, without being told to by the headmaster!
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B&Q are a garden centre. That's my point!
If they only opened the hardware aisles and had the rest taped off, I would understand. They don't. You're not allowed to go to your local garden centre to buy a shrub but you can go to B&Q and get a basket full.
Again, B&M is barely a food shop, it sells sweets and a couple of tins of tuna. The floorspace dedicated to food is around half or less than the non-essential area selling paddling pools. You can go there and buy cushions or a dog bed, there's no requirement for you to purchase food.
Wilko/The Range - the same. They have a couple of aisles of food items, the rest of the stores are painting bits, cushions and plastic stuff.
If an independent garden centre had an aisle of baking stuff, some choccy bars and a few tins of beans, would it be allowed to open?
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B&Q is a DIY shop that sells some garden stuff.
I do agree that garden centres should probably be allowed to be open - but based on current rules they can't - wether or not they would get away with selling a small ammount of food but nothing else I don't know - the chain Dobbies must think they can't be open.
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Schools are likely to reopen anytime after the 25th May I'm guessing Monday 1st June to allow for staff/school prep. The return will be based on age and year groups in relation to exams etc. I think primary schools will have all ages/years returning with social distancing by reducing class sizes. I would think students will spend shorter days in school with some starting early and some later and finishing early/later. Social distancing will also be factored into school transport as well. Contracted vehicle sizes will be increased to allow for social distancing and routes may be run twice in one school day to allow for social distancing.
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I've got a friend who's a primary school teacher. Her school are open for kids from frontline workers and vulnerable kids etc. She's working 1 week every 3 weeks.
maximum 11 kids in each classroom. She says the school has been sent no sanitizer etc and they are still using normal liquid soap to wash hands
And no masks etc for the teachers
She's got kids from as young as 4 to 11 to look after in the same classroom
And she spends all day trying to keep them apart from each other
maximum 11 kids in each classroom. She says the school has been sent no sanitizer etc and they are still using normal liquid soap to wash hands
And no masks etc for the teachers
She's got kids from as young as 4 to 11 to look after in the same classroom
And she spends all day trying to keep them apart from each other
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If that's correct, the only benefit of having it open is to provide a nurse-type environment for the kids, which I can fully understand and support.
I just do not think it should be used to show that schools can operate effectivelly under social distancing rules.
For clarity, I know that interestedobserver was not saying that!
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Apparently Ikea are planning to open some of their stores from 18th May, not quite sure how they plan to do this as they are non-essential stores.
My personal view is that rules will be relaxed from next week for more than one form of exercise a day, family picnics within a certain distance of home and then schools open early June along with small retail shops. Furlough payments reduced from July.
My personal view is that rules will be relaxed from next week for more than one form of exercise a day, family picnics within a certain distance of home and then schools open early June along with small retail shops. Furlough payments reduced from July.
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Reducing restrictions will only start the death rate to start climbing again in two to three weeks , but thats what the government want, herd inoculation .
With regards to the virus nothing has changed , its still as virulent as ever and theres still no cure or vaccine , I`ll be avoiding everyone like er er the plague .
With regards to the virus nothing has changed , its still as virulent as ever and theres still no cure or vaccine , I`ll be avoiding everyone like er er the plague .
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The "rules" seem to vary depending on who is informing them. A vape shop near us got bread and milk in them argued he was allowed to open. The police shut him down!
I think Sunday all they will announce is their guidance for businesses to trade with social distancing; extended to further industries. I suspect 3 more weeks Lock down to allow companies to get prepared.
I think Sunday all they will announce is their guidance for businesses to trade with social distancing; extended to further industries. I suspect 3 more weeks Lock down to allow companies to get prepared.
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Bank of England have just predicted that with or without lockdowns consumers will be cautious and self isolate/stay safe to mid 2021 at least.
That exactly backs up my own thought processes re what to expect when planning for any business that involves social contact
Lockdown or no lockdown people are going to be changing the way they interact, the way they work and how and where they travel
That exactly backs up my own thought processes re what to expect when planning for any business that involves social contact
Lockdown or no lockdown people are going to be changing the way they interact, the way they work and how and where they travel
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NZ have already said they will not allow international travel. I suspect many other countries will be closing their borders as well in the coming months.
By the time we can go on holiday again most airlines will have gone bust or their aircraft no longer functioning.
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I think that people are starting to panic I am one of the ones that are OK and even I am worried about it . 
You don't have to be a bunch of morons We have been busy and still managed to avoid too much contact
Here are the precautions we take .
Hand sanitizer and gloves in each van I have always had a good supply as I have 20 boxes of workshop gloves but that was just luck
Fuel pumps disposable gloves at all fuel pumps and pay with a fuel card don't hang around chatting
Unloading /loading Where a load is on a loading bay where we can the site load and unload and close contact is avoided
Delivery to offices Items to be placed 2 meters away from the person signing . ! We have scraped real signatures and we just record the person name and if anybody does not like it I am here most days
Private addresses knock on the door take some steps back and leave item outside door .Again take down their name
Don't hang around at any location including our own talking to each other ! . Go home !
You don't have to be a bunch of morons We have been busy and still managed to avoid too much contact
Here are the precautions we take .
Hand sanitizer and gloves in each van I have always had a good supply as I have 20 boxes of workshop gloves but that was just luck
Fuel pumps disposable gloves at all fuel pumps and pay with a fuel card don't hang around chatting
Unloading /loading Where a load is on a loading bay where we can the site load and unload and close contact is avoided
Delivery to offices Items to be placed 2 meters away from the person signing . ! We have scraped real signatures and we just record the person name and if anybody does not like it I am here most days
Private addresses knock on the door take some steps back and leave item outside door .Again take down their name
Don't hang around at any location including our own talking to each other ! . Go home !
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I believe only the minority will be cautious for that long. Open the pubs, restaurants and shops this weekend and I reckon they would be packed out. The facts and figures will be coming out stating the groups that have been most affected and will emphasise those much larger groups that largely get mild or very little symptoms. The message will be that for most of us it will be a cold and not to worry. Just don't pass it on to those who are more vulnerable will be the key detail.
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