Youtube Copyright - audio on PRIVATE video

paulears

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Not come across this before. We know that youtube is very good at identifying audio in the background of essentially video projects. I don't normally use youtube for my business because loads of my pictures have some kind of audio in the background - it was just playing with the images were shot. They identify these and slap on an advert - for many things this is fine, but occasionally a client wants something put on youtube as a private video, and you send them the link, and nobody else can see it without knowing the link url.

I got this morning, two copyright notifications - these were one year old clips from a body building competition we shot here in the UK. The audio was simply the music played at the event when they were doing all that muscle stuff. The finished product was created and used by them with the appropriate licensing of the audio - what we do fairly commonly for limited distribution products, we have a nice scheme here that allows this to be done fairly paperwork light.

This clip was a problem clip - submitted to the client to look at due to some issues. I'd forgotten the clip was even on the youtube account (we normally use Paid for Vimeo).

So it seems Youtube are going through private videos looking for music use that could be used to generate payments for copyright owners, then starting the system off. This one was solved with a very simple delete, as it's not important - but what about people who share their wedding videos with their family, where the DJ is playing tracks for the first dance - that kind of thing? This seems a bit harsh when by the private status, it patently is NOT public, which triggers the copyright.

Anyone care to comment?
 
If it can be viewed by anybody, it's not private!

There seems to be much misconception around these social media sites. They are totally public. If you put some embarrassing details or pictures on FaceBook, or any other SM site, you've told the World.
 
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Alan

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    As mentioned, YouTube don't have a real 'private' option, it is public to anyone with the link.

    I had this when I put up a 30 year old digital rendition of a family VHS, and in the background on the TV, 'The Snow Man' ( flying in the air ) was playing. Got a copyright notification, so had to remove the soundtrack from the video, no big deal but seemed overly silly, but within their rights I guess.
     
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    paulears

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    I'm usually very supportive of rights - but I did raise my eyebrows at this one. Foolishly, I did assume private, in this case, did mean NOT public.

    The amusing thing was they removed audio on one a month or two back, but my own music composition - which is registered and administered by PRS and PPL, yet they attributed it to Arista Records! It took some time to get that one put right.
     
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    As the video is hosted on YT servers, technically it's in the public domain even if it's "private" - which really means "restricted viewing". The moderators can only tell what the audio is by listening, so if your music sounds similar to another tune by a published musician, they're going to err on the side of caution just in case the copyright holder sues.

    I had a similar problem a few years ago with a promotional clip I put up on YT. The soundtrack was library music - which I'd paid for and obtained all the necessary licences and filled out all the MCPS stuff - but they clearly didn't believe me. They said it was copyrighted and even included the track name and artist they were accusing me of using. I managed to find the track on Spotify and it didn't sound anything like the track I was using. I tried to point this out but they wouldn't budge. In the end I took the clip down and re-cut it to a music track that had come free on the resources disk that was included with my video editing software. They didn't have anything to say about that. Go figure (as they would put it).
     
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