Would you stay in a hotel?

[jules1970]

Within the Uk, I have no qualms at all about staying in a hotel. Whether I will or not, remains to be seen.

Worldwide though, especially in Asia where I tend to travel for business, I modt certainly wouldn't. Far too many risks.

What areas of the hotel are you most reluctant to go to. And would a more tech system where you can go straight to your room be of help?

 

[Mr D]

I have to do 30 posts before I can put the link on. Will do once I get there.

Copy it onto page, break it up with a couple of spaces so its not seen as a link by the website , and its posted for someone else to post the link.

 

[jules1970]

No idea what risk check in would give - my experience of check in suggests that would be the least problematic area.
Bedroom, bathroom, lift, doors. Eating area.

What if you are in a area which people are waiting and queuing for a considerable time?

 

[Mr D]

What if you are in a area which people are waiting and queuing for a considerable time?

Bit like a supermarket eh?
I'd be masked and gloved anyway.

Can't say I've ever come across queuing much in a hotel besides the breakfast bar one morning - 6.30am the fire alarm went off so all had to evacuate. Then when we were allowed back in suddenly a few hundred guests descended on the breakfast area at 7am on a Sunday morning.

Other than that the queueing I've found is one or two people. Only used hotels in this country a few dozen different times.

 

[ecommerce84]

What areas of the hotel are you most reluctant to go to. And would a more tech system where you can go straight to your room be of help?

This is what Premier Inn have been doing for some time - a self checkin where it prints your keys and you can head to your room.

Seems to work well, although I think there are dozens of things hotels can implement before this that would be more useful.

 

[menetworkjadaltd]

No concerns (other than that the cleaners should change their gloves between each room), but I think hotels should offer room service as standard (no tip necessary) for the next six months

 

[Mr D]

No concerns (other than that the cleaners should change their gloves between each room), but I think hotels should offer room service as standard (no tip necessary) for the next six months

Yes, room service as standard could be offered.
You would pay about 70 percent more per room than otherwise and the wait time could exceed 2 hours at busy periods. But could be done.

It's more labour intensive for the hotel, considerably more.

 

[menetworkjadaltd]

Yes, room service as standard could be offered.
You would pay about 70 percent more per room than otherwise and the wait time could exceed 2 hours at busy periods. But could be done.

It's more labour intensive for the hotel, considerably more.

Obviously, Ts & Cs apply

Less menu options, timeslots offered, less rooms available

It's all about compromise in the meantime I think.

 

[Lucan Unlordly]

Looking reading through some of the suggested pitfalls of staying in a hotel, I fear for the cruise industry

 

[Mr D]

Obviously, Ts & Cs apply

Less menu options, timeslots offered, less rooms available

It's all about compromise in the meantime I think.

It's staffing, it's facilities - hence increased price for the room.

 

[Scalloway]

I fear for the cruise industry

Some of the earliest headlines about corona virus were about passengers stranded on cruise ships while the virus raged. Not a great advert.

 

[Mr D]

Some of the earliest headlines about corona virus were about passengers stranded on cruise ships while the virus raged. Not a great advert.

While many would like a cruise, one that lasts roughly forever in one place that cannot run a quarantine on a cruise ship.... No, too risky.

 

[Ian J]

Some of the earliest headlines about corona virus were about passengers stranded on cruise ships while the virus raged. Not a great advert.

I can't see anyone booking a cruise for quite a long time and expect that some of the big names to go bust as they will be unable to service their huge marine mortgages

 

[Darren_Ssc]

I can't see anyone booking a cruise for quite a long time and expect that some of the big names to go bust as they will be unable to service their huge marine mortgages

Mot of the big names are owned by Carnival. I'm not sure how solvent they are at the moment but I'd expect a significant contraction in business rather than them going bust?

It also wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a flurry of bookings though, once things return to normal and they start heavily discounting. I don't work far from the main route towards Bournemouth and for the past 3 days I've never seen so much traffic. If people will sit in a 4-hour tail back just to get to Bournemouth for a few hours then you can't rule anything out.

 

[Mark T Jones]

Personally I’d stay in a hotel f necessary for purely practical purposes

However I wouldn’t choose one for holidays or weekend breaks. For me, social skills interaction is a big part of the hotel experience. Without that I’d rather a cottage

 

[Deleted member 59730]

Mot of the big names are owned by Carnival. I'm not sure how solvent they are at the moment but I'd expect a significant contraction in business rather than them going bust?

Hasn't Carnival put some ships up for sale recently. Apparently the cruise ships problems were made worse by spending on air-con rather than ventilation which made a perfect way to spread a cold loving virus.

 

[Darren_Ssc]

Hasn't Carnival put some ships up for sale recently. Apparently the cruise ships problems were made worse by spending on air-con rather than ventilation which made a perfect way to spread a cold loving virus.

I believe they have put some up for sale but it's a huge company and they enjoy the benefit of legalised slavery when it comes to crewing their craft.

No doubt they will have make some expensive modifications though.

 

[Ian J]

Mot of the big names are owned by Carnival. I'm not sure how solvent they are at the moment but I'd expect a significant contraction in business rather than them going bust?

It also wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a flurry of bookings though, once things return to normal and they start heavily discounting. I don't work far from the main route towards Bournemouth and for the past 3 days I've never seen so much traffic. If people will sit in a 4-hour tail back just to get to Bournemouth for a few hours then you can't rule anything out.

The sort of chavs that are willing to risk infecting themselves and others by ignoring social distancing to crowd onto a beach probably can't afford a cruise anyway

 

[Stas Lawicki]

The only spotless hotels I've ever stayed in was the Missonni in Edinburgh (because we happened to be some of the first guests when it opened). Same with our honeymoon hotel in Mauritius.

We've got a postponed stay at a trendy cotswolds place (wife's idea) which I am debating cancelling all together. The logistics of cleaning every lounge, room, dining room and loo to ensure it's cv free I can't see is possible. But as I started saying, most hotels posh or cheap are hardly spotless anyway.

I have no desire to spend my free time in a mask, gloves or indeed around others looking panicked or uneasy about being in close proximity to others. I don't like be told how to behave or what to do so would rather wait until next summer to relax. Either that or get on a boat and spend some time on the sea... Ah, bliss...

 

[Deleted member 59730]

The sort of chavs that are willing to risk infecting themselves and others by ignoring social distancing to crowd onto a beach probably can't afford a cruise anyway

Dear Ian

We all know that nothing would be good enough for you except a converted fisherman's cottage on an unspoilt Greek island. Complete with whitewashed steps leading up to a blue painted door. Having stepped over the village cat you open the door to reveal the 70" screen tuned to Sky Sports while your wife sips her Martini in the Jacuzzi in the rear garden.

 

[Mr D]

The only spotless hotels I've ever stayed in was the Missonni in Edinburgh (because we happened to be some of the first guests when it opened). Same with our honeymoon hotel in Mauritius.

We've got a postponed stay at a trendy cotswolds place (wife's idea) which I am debating cancelling all together. The logistics of cleaning every lounge, room, dining room and loo to ensure it's cv free I can't see is possible. But as I started saying, most hotels posh or cheap are hardly spotless anyway.

I have no desire to spend my free time in a mask, gloves or indeed around others looking panicked or uneasy about being in close proximity to others. I don't like be told how to behave or what to do so would rather wait until next summer to relax. Either that or get on a boat and spend some time on the sea... Ah, bliss...

No guarantee that next summer will be any different virus wise than this summer.

 

[Stas Lawicki]

No guarantee that next summer will be any different virus wise than this summer.

I'll be sailing

 

[ecommerce84]

Evidently plenty of people are itching to get away as holiday bookings have ‘exploded my according to this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53206148

It was inevitable, the majority of people are willing to take the risk.

 

[Ian J]

Dear Ian

We all know that nothing would be good enough for you except a converted fisherman's cottage on an unspoilt Greek island. Complete with whitewashed steps leading up to a blue painted door. Having stepped over the village cat you open the door to reveal the 70" screen tuned to Sky Sports while your wife sips her Martini in the Jacuzzi in the rear garden.

My first cardinal rule on holiday is that the TV is never switched on as we all watch too much of that at home. Four years ago we rented the most beautiful ultra modern villa in Madeira and when we arrived the huge wall mounted television was already switched on showing the Test Match and it was with a huge amount of regret that I switched it off.

Anyway 70" is overkill as I find my 65" 4K OLED screen quite big enough for my needs

Whilst I won't book a villa anywhere for a summer holiday that doesn't have it's own pool I do stop short of a jacuzzi. I recall many years ago looking at a quiz titled "Are you a chav" and one of the questions was "Do you own or do you know anyone who owns a jacuzzi" It was a very unfair question as whilst I don't own one my next door neighbour does and I was deemed to be guilty by association

 

[Nick Walsh Studios]

No hotels for me.

"Earlier this month, two researchers from Harvard Medical School argued in JAMA that, beyond washing hands and wearing masks, “air disinfection” has been a largely missing element of the strategy to prevent coronavirus transmission.

The airborne spread of the coronavirus has been well documented. Famously, outbreaks have emerged from choir practices and other indoor gatherings, with infection rates so uniquely high that it’s unlikely everyone got infected by touching the same surface. Over a long period in an enclosed space, it seems, singing can spew virus into the air until it accumulates to the point of danger for people who are well over six feet away.

Once a virus is hanging in the air—and we know that the coronavirus can linger for hours—it will travel with air currents. One ominous study of a restaurant in Guangzhou, China, documented how air-conditioning appeared to spread the virus between tables at opposite sides of the room. The issue wasn’t that the virus was traveling through the air-conditioning unit, but that it was getting pushed around the room by the stream of air. The takeaway is that while airflow is good when it’s coming from open windows, it could make things worse when it’s coming from an AC unit that’s blowing air around a closed room.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/is-air-conditioning-safe-pandemic/613438/

 

[Lucan Unlordly]

Lots of people already have cruises booked for next year, many using the credit they've received from this years no sail adventure!
Carnival have put half a dozen ships up for sale with the expectation that they will go to scrap rather than a competitor. P&O have a new ship on the way, but I believe the build has been slowed down?
The widening of the market by encouraging younger cruisers on bigger (cheaper cost per person) ships may have to be put on hold in favour of reduced passenger numbers paying an awful lot more to jump aboard as they have in the past.