Wood Burning Stove Help

[YoungMoneyChina]

Hi,

My dad is looking into a wood burning stove, they seem expensive locally but quite cheap on ebay. He is getting old now and i want to make sure what he gets is safe. Are there any safety standards these stoves must comply with?

I only ask as im sure someone on here must deal in them.

Many thanks.

 

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Wood burning stoves like any gas fire must have a chimney liner attached,some are expensive but like anything else you get what you pay for. If your going to have it done, have it done by a professional they are messy like the the open fires of old and you will need a good stock of wood unless your going to use alternative fuel. my brother has one in his lounge, i must admit they throw some good heat out .

 

[estwig]

Lot's of regulations surrounding wood burning stoves, they fall under building control regulations. You need to speak to your local building control.

 

[Watford Courier Company]

You can find some good stoves in countrylife magazines and the compnies that provide them can assist you with their legislation, there is a firm in there that have a royal standards mark and came across as very proffessional, take a look.

 

[reggiemental]

From experience, I'd say pay particular attention on how you expect to get the smoke up and out of the chimney. My son bought me a multi-fuel, pot-bellied burner for Christmas, as we have an Inglenook in a back room. He bought a 5ft flue, (5" diam. I think) which will not get rid of the smoke properly when windy outside. (Smoke blows back down into the room). I think my options are to extend the flue right to the top of the chimney, (expensive I should imagine), or, I'm looking to source a builder who can fit a hidden plate inside the fireplace, that will stop fumes coming back into the room.

So I'd suggest you look at how you will deal with smoke extraction, if you're fitting the stove yourself which, by the way is very easy. My son's supplier ommitted to tell him that certain parts of the stove will need cementing-in. Again, easy to do, but in retrospect I'd be inclined to have the stove professionally fitted as suggested earlier.

 

[Minnsy]

Best by a mile (and UK made) are clearviewstoves dot com.

Have the chimney lined - top to bottom. Liner then goes though plate and into top of woodburner.

Draw on woodburner should be fine if chimney is lined.

Cost - depends how big a stove he needs. Ours fitted was a shade under £1500. Do not buy a cheap woodburner, and suggest the Chinese imports are fine to look at, but not too good at providing heat.

 

[Business News]

As with anythin - quality costs. I've just fitted a Clearview stove in our old farmhouse and its the bee's knees. Does warmth and water too. All the other companies lost interest in quoting as soon as they heard the word Clearview muttered. That speaks volumes. They run a site survey before fitting so ensure everything is in order with placements and linings.

Hope this helps

Barry

 

dont buy this kind of thing on ebay ,you get what you pay for ,my mate has one from wenlock-stoves.co.uk and it is top quality and not that dear
use dry logs or your chimney will block up fairly quick

 

[Minnsy]

As has been said, essential to have your chimney lined. Coal smoke and wood smoke very different properties... Wood smoke can 'tar up' a chimney and be a bit of a hazard. If lined, no problems at all. As to burning non seasoned wood - this is fine in a wood burner... use seasoned wood to start the fire, and when going, pretty much put on what you want...

 

[asapearce]

Interesting as Just installed a Westfire Uniq 5 stove in my house yesterday, was not too expensive to buy approx £700 in VAT, I was recommended to have my Chimney lined which was done last week. Installastion was easy and the fire was burning away the cold very quickly.

Beware the outside of these stoves do get very hot


Andy

 

[JADEMEDIA]

Hi OP. My father loves the old real fire and went into the wood stoves quite lot because he always likes an independent heating source. There are as other posters have pointed out 2 problems - the chimney and keeping those logs dry and they can be very expensive if you buy small parcels. It is all a lot of hassle in the end Ole Eagle Eye as he is known on here came up with a solution as usual.

It is a flueless calor gas fire with what tey call a 'living flame' that actually looks like wood burning stove so it looks good. It throws out just a much heat when you need it and your probaly talking a new gas cylinder every 3 weeks at about £15 quid. Just found the link where I think my father is going to order one from. Cost I think is £315 with free delivery. Hope the info helps. Jade
http://www.mobilegas.co.uk/mobileheater/provence-stove/index.htm

 

[dp0848]

Yes, do get the lining work done, it really is worth the money. We've got a Dovre 250 and love it.

 

[reggiemental]

Interesting as Just installed a Westfire Uniq 5 stove in my house yesterday, was not too expensive to buy approx £700 in VAT, I was recommended to have my Chimney lined which was done last week. Installastion was easy and the fire was burning away the cold very quickly.

Hi Andy,

Could you give me a ballpark figure on how much it costs to get the chimney lined?

Cheers

Paul

 

[Faulty Towers]

I have just installed a Dovre wood burning stove, very nice casting and enormously heavy.
Had to have a flue liner fitted - this is essential for wood burning stoves. The thing is you must use dry logs, preferably kiln dried, if you don't you won't get much heat out of it!
The moisture content of the logs is best at 12%. You can order in bulk to get a good price.
They are very clean to use - just open the door and put a log on - great and when using dry logs - stonking hot!
One word of warning do not use unseasond logs as this will burn with a very low heat and deposite creasotes onto the flue lining which can cause a fire in the chimney!

Dave

 

[UKSBD]

The cost isn't in the stove, it's in the lining.
I recently enquired and the cost of the stove was £700 but the cost of
the lining was £1,800

 

[dp0848]

That sounds about right. The lining is not cheap. I've got a figure of about £80 per metre in my head but its a few years since we had it done.

 

[CKG]

There are alot of regs for wood stoves.

It isn't really just a case of buy one, stick it in the gap and light it.

You need the advice of a HETAS registered installer.

Basically the regs state.

If the output is over 5KW you need 550mm2 of permenantly open to outside ventillation for every KW over 5KW

The hearth must project 300mm beyond the front of the appliance and 150mm from the sides and must be non combustable. The thickness of the hearth depends how hot the applance gets. The regs range from 12mm to 125mm I think.

The flue system is pretty much down to what the installation instructions tell you to do. Manufacturers instructions transcend all published British Standards full stop.

As a rule for wood a liner one size bigger that the appliance outlet is fitted with a commercially available adapter (commercially available is the key here. You cant just bodge it together with fire cement and duct tape).

Last of all you need a chinmey data plate fitted indicating the chimney has been converted for use with whatever stove you have in place.

 

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We have had an excellent experience through ebay buying the stove and liner and having someone local to fit both. I think it cost around £800 for a chimney liner (including fitting costs). We bought through ebay but the shop was fairly local so we could visit them and have a look at their stock and ask questions etc. Can't remember the name of them now..sorry