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NuBlue
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- #3
Personaly I think expresion engine is propably the best CMS on the market if you can take the time to learn how to use it properly. Good for anything from a small 5 page site to the biggest site on the internet.
It has a great community, is very flexible (more of a framework then a CMS really) so your limited by what or how you want to content manage as the system can be moulded to fit pretty much any scenario.
Movabletype is also worth checking out for the same reason. Personally I dont see 'free' as a selling point for any product.
It has a great community, is very flexible (more of a framework then a CMS really) so your limited by what or how you want to content manage as the system can be moulded to fit pretty much any scenario.
Movabletype is also worth checking out for the same reason. Personally I dont see 'free' as a selling point for any product.
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ozbon
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- #6
I've used CMSMS on a few sites now, and find it really quite powerful and good to use.
But for the question "What's the best CMS", I think the real answer is always "It depends". That judgement is based on what your site requires, what the users require, what platform you're using, and many many other things.
All CMS's do *basically* the same thing - you can run a site using Wordpress as a CMS, or MovableType, or Joomla or Drupal or Expression Engine or Typo3, or... or... or... . The list is endless.
But for the question "What's the best CMS", I think the real answer is always "It depends". That judgement is based on what your site requires, what the users require, what platform you're using, and many many other things.
All CMS's do *basically* the same thing - you can run a site using Wordpress as a CMS, or MovableType, or Joomla or Drupal or Expression Engine or Typo3, or... or... or... . The list is endless.
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I'm quite a bit Joomla fan, and it's worth remembering that Wordpress can be used as an effective CMS for many small sites (a few big ones, too: I seem to recall reading that the New York Times uses a customised version of WP for its site.)
My favourite CMS all round is Sitekit, though it's 100% commercial and the licences are priced in the corporate/larger SME range.
My favourite CMS all round is Sitekit, though it's 100% commercial and the licences are priced in the corporate/larger SME range.
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Expression Engine is a great CMS and like NuBlue said it's flexible to fit any type of website.
With CMS like Wordpress you may need to install various plugins to get it to work exactly how you want, expression engine had loads of features built in.:redface:
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Jo-WHG
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- #11
From what I've gathered, Joomla is a great free CMS, which is easy to get up and running. I have actually been dabbling with it for a personal project of mine with the add-on virtuemart shopping cart and so far so good; simple to use, looks professional,FREE and plenty of support. I've also tried Drupal, but for me Joomla got the vote.
Expression engine is potentially the most robust and scaleable, but the free version is limited - so only an option if you want to spend money. Saying that though it's not a lot of money (about £125 for a commercial licese).
Wordpress, Moveable type and others are great for blogs or simple sites.
This is really simplified, but considering I started the thread that shows you my level of or lack of expertise and this is what I've gleaned so far....
no one has mentioned CMS made simple yet, anyone got experience of it?
Expression engine is potentially the most robust and scaleable, but the free version is limited - so only an option if you want to spend money. Saying that though it's not a lot of money (about £125 for a commercial licese).
Wordpress, Moveable type and others are great for blogs or simple sites.
This is really simplified, but considering I started the thread that shows you my level of or lack of expertise and this is what I've gleaned so far....
no one has mentioned CMS made simple yet, anyone got experience of it?
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Really the only answer to your question is... It Depends.
After all, if you're doing e-learning you'll want Moodle. If you're creating a blogging platform for multiple users you'll want WordPress MU.
No solution is perfect. WP is a great system (and one we specialise in) but it's not great for everything and people who try and shoe-horn it that way get into bother. Similarly, Joomla is great but end-users can find it confusing and tricky. CMS Made Simple is... simple - which limits what can be done.
Some of the hooks in WP for developers to use are simply brilliant and currently dramatically under-exploited by most themes out there - commercial or otherwise. We're fixing that
I suspect similar is true for Joomla - an experienced expert with it can probably make it do anything.
After all, if you're doing e-learning you'll want Moodle. If you're creating a blogging platform for multiple users you'll want WordPress MU.
No solution is perfect. WP is a great system (and one we specialise in) but it's not great for everything and people who try and shoe-horn it that way get into bother. Similarly, Joomla is great but end-users can find it confusing and tricky. CMS Made Simple is... simple - which limits what can be done.
Some of the hooks in WP for developers to use are simply brilliant and currently dramatically under-exploited by most themes out there - commercial or otherwise. We're fixing that
I suspect similar is true for Joomla - an experienced expert with it can probably make it do anything.
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have you got an address for 'it depends'/ I have googled it and can't find it anywhere. Is it new
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achilles
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- #17
I run a social club website as a freebie (I am a member). I have already written a basic CMS which works well for a basic layout designed for a 'What's New?' section and RSS feed. However, I now need the steward to be able to write the content for her own food-menu page - using basic Word-like WYSIWYG (a bit like the message box used in this forum to create posts). I haven't the time to code this - so would like to use some existing form of CMS. Any recommendation?
I am happy with the existing site skin, and merely want the content to go into an existing div. The site is coded in HTML 4.01 strict, and I would prefer to keep using this - but if need be I will re-code the skin into xhtml.
I am happy with the existing site skin, and merely want the content to go into an existing div. The site is coded in HTML 4.01 strict, and I would prefer to keep using this - but if need be I will re-code the skin into xhtml.
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In my humble opinion, Joomla is well written, but I just don't like how you have to store content in the admin. It doesn't make it easy to build organic websites.
But then I'm a massive fan of drupal so I'm going to be biased.
http://drupal.org I'm still using v. 5 as v 6. still doesn't have all of the plug ins I need.
http://drupal.org/project/Modules Hundreds of modules
http://drupal.org/project/Themes Plenty of starter themes, but it's easy to create your own, or adapt others.
Finally there is loads of help and documents to get you on your way, plenty of pod casts and screen cast on sites like Lullabot
Matt
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F1SEO
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- #20
To add my favourite one into the mix I'll suggest MODx.
We've begun using it to development client sites and it's very powerful under the bonnet. Great for SEO, with MOD-Rewrite and Meta Tags management built-in.
For simple sites CMSMS, or WP would be good. We have a 400 page website to build with pages inherting properties from parent pages and hierarchical MOD-Rewrite (/category/range/page.html) and out of these 3: Drupal, MODx, and EE .. we took MODx because it's straightforward in the admin panel (unlike Drupal) and it's very fast, and templates for pages can be built - great for standardising layouts throught a website.
It also can do a bridge to forum, either VB or SMF. It's got pretty much everything.
I would recommend MODx, at least try it out and see how you get on.
We've begun using it to development client sites and it's very powerful under the bonnet. Great for SEO, with MOD-Rewrite and Meta Tags management built-in.
For simple sites CMSMS, or WP would be good. We have a 400 page website to build with pages inherting properties from parent pages and hierarchical MOD-Rewrite (/category/range/page.html) and out of these 3: Drupal, MODx, and EE .. we took MODx because it's straightforward in the admin panel (unlike Drupal) and it's very fast, and templates for pages can be built - great for standardising layouts throught a website.
It also can do a bridge to forum, either VB or SMF. It's got pretty much everything.
I would recommend MODx, at least try it out and see how you get on.
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