Which business I can start online

[Patel.wali]

I need to help can anybody guide me what type of business i can start online with little amount starting amount currently I have a hosting company but I don't have customer if anybody can help me in generating money and getting the business start we might help each other or we will sort out

My aim is to start a online business without money because I am already ripped in few business so i will be glad if some can help me
Thanks

 

[FIZIX Agency]

What kind if business? What do you want to do?

Btw, good businesses start from a passion for something or a good idea that hits you, rather than "I want a business, lets try this".

 

[Patel.wali]

Thanks for your reply dear i want to start online selling business but needs a good idea mainly in IT field something thanks

 

[FIZIX Agency]

Dear? :redface:

Ok... darling, how about selling something?

 

[Oakley7]

In your situation I think it's important that you do something in an area that you understand fully and not try to go into something new that you have no idea about.

Back in the 1980's I thought it would be a good idea to go into the video hire business as it was an up and coming market (then...). However I didn't know anything about that specific industry. So I went and got a job as a video shop manager. After about 8 months I had made loads of contacts and had also acquired loads of knowledge. That gave me the foundations to start my own business which probably would have failed otherwise.

It troubles me that you already have a hosting business which isn't working. Is this on a reseller basis ? I'd be inclined to concentrate on building that up if it's something you've already invested in.

 

[Trust Malcolm]

As has been said, go for something you love doing! I love working with people and I also love computing. I get real pleasure from helping someone out of a hole. As I spend most of my time at work doing that the business is a success. Remember it's not just about the cash, it's about living your life.
Whatever you decide, good luck with it!
Malcolm

 

[Patel.wali]

I have already invested in hosting services now if any body can help me getting customers

 

[Alan]

How much did you invest?

 

[Paul_Rosser]

How much did you invest?

Think he means that he's paid for some webspace.

 

[Alan]

Yes, we can guess the OP has paid for a reseller account and has come on to this forum hoping to resell some hosting accounts. I was just trying to tease it out. .........If only it was that easy. Oh did I mention I have tons of spare capacity on my servers, any one want to help me sell some hosting ..... didn't think so

 

[Patel.wali]

Yes I have paid for reseller webspace which i can sell to others and i am paying around £30-50 per month and i am not getting my money back else i m a website developer but i m not getting the customers i don't know much about SEO and i need assistance in generating revenue and having some customers

 

[Patel.wali]

Yes, we can guess the OP has paid for a reseller account and has come on to this forum hoping to resell some hosting accounts. If only it was that easy. Oh did I mention I have tons of spare capacity on my servers, any one want to help me sell some hosting ..... didn't think so

Dear mainly i didn't come here to sell mine i come here to get some guidance on how to sell and get my business running.

 

[Paul_Rosser]

Sadly reselling webspace is a very oversaturated market and the margins are very tight so I would look at doing something else.

 

[Alan]

I have already invested in hosting services now if any body can help me getting customers

Sorry, I misunderstood your English.

It isn't easy getting pure hosting accounts, as the big players have the market quite tight and bidding on Adwords will cost you around £10 per click.

Most resellers make money by designing and building websites for clients and then providing the hosting for those websites.

If you are just starting out, and don't know much about anything except website development, I suggest you sign up to some of the freelance websites out there and then you can bid on web development projects. You can bid so low that you will eventually win some clients.

Good luck.

 

[Paul_Rosser]

If you are going to try and get work doing web development for sites in English then you will also have to improve your linguistic skills I'm afraid as otherwise you won't be very successful.

 

[mattearlycom]

i am not getting my money back else i m a website developer but i m not getting the customers i don't know much about SEO and i need assistance in generating revenue and having some customers

Dear mainly i didn't come here to sell mine i come here to get some guidance on how to sell and get my business running.

I'm not a big fan of the "buy the cow first then work out whether to milk it or to sell its rump" strategy of building a business, but seeing as that's what you have done, lets look at what you have already and then work out how to create revenue.

Web Hosting : CHECK
Web Development : CHECK
Web Design : NULL

Step 1 : Get in contact with a web designer.

SEO Expert : NULL

Step 2 : Get in contact with an SEO expert (If you feel its important)

Step 3 : Contact local, small, bricks and mortar businesses and sell them the idea of you designing, developing, hosting and optimising them a website that will rank high on Google and will get lots of likes on Facebook and spread the word on Twitter.

For every taker, you have a new customer.

In fact... you are actually outsourcing the majority of the work.

Not only are you reselling web hosting, you are also reselling web design and search engine optimisation.

Keep the prices low for the first few, and as the word spreads (because small business owners do talk to each other) you will be the flashest, middlest man (or woman) of them all.

 

[threenine]

Yes I have paid for reseller webspace which i can sell to others and i am paying around £30-50 per month and i am not getting my money back else i m a website developer but i m not getting the customers i don't know much about SEO and i need assistance in generating revenue and having some customers

Firstly, what I would suggest is that you stop paying the £30 - £50 per month and close down that buisness. You're not going to make it. It's time you take time to reflect on your failure. What went wrong? What can you do to make sure this doesn't happen again?

As far as I can tell, you embarked on some kind of idea, without clearly formulating what you would like to achieve. Your main problem here is that you can't find customers? Then you have a problem with your Sales and Marketing. This is a key area of business! You need to take time to learn and master this area.

A web developer, who doesn't know much about SEO? That's a little worrying if I'm perfectly honest. This is a key requirement in any web based business! You need to learn about this area

 

[Anastasiya]

You can start with e-commerce (or probably m-commerce which is very popular nowadays http://www.techi.com/2012/11/m-commerce-statistics-and-trends/ ) - resell any things, be a mediator between the wholesaler and the end user. You do not need to have all those stuff available, you can deliver products within 2-3 days by sending request to manifacturer. If you currently have no money for building a good e-commerce website, you can start on eBay or forums. One more idea is to start with services. You can offer business consulting, coaching - anything you are good enough in. Organize webinars, online workshops etc. Browse some ideas how to make business online http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/20-ideas-to-make-money-online/1/12603.html


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[mattearlycom]

Hello Every One !!!
I am not really a massive enthusiast with the "buy this cow first after that workout regardless of whether to be able to dairy the item so they can advertise it's rump" strategy of creating a company, although since that's that which you have done, lets take a look at that which you previously then workout how you can produce revenue. what I recommend can be that you end paying the precise dollars each month in addition to in close proximity straight down of which company.

Haha, is this a rewrite of my post? ^

 

[Alan]

lmfao ^^^^ what now we have forum post spinners

 

[SuffolkDesigns]

Selling hosting services is not that difficult.

Can I ask how many doors you have knocked on & how many phone calls you have made?

I am guessing the answer is close to zero.
You must go to the client, they won't come to you.

 

[internetspaceships]

Selling hosting services is not that difficult.

Can I ask how many doors you have knocked on & how many phone calls you have made?

I am guessing the answer is close to zero.
You must go to the client, they won't come to you.

Exactly. I have to be cynical and suggest that I read the OP as "what can I set up online and leave running that makes me loads of money without having to do much in the way of work?"

 

[monica123]

I think, e-commerce business is better for that.

 

[threenine]

Exactly. I have to be cynical and suggest that I read the OP as "what can I set up online and leave running that makes me loads of money without having to do much in the way of work?"

I hear you can do that stuffing envelopes, or there is a guy who leaves business cards on my car windscreen claiming I can earn £1000 a week in my spare time doing something! Maybe I can forward the OP on the number to call

 

[neil@CamisOnline]

I never realised how much of a huge task starting an online business is. I agree that web space and hosting is a very saturated market with little or no returns for a small business.

We've just been through the process of converting a Windows application into a web based offering and hoping to launch over the next few weeks. I never realised at the time how much of an undertaking it was and how much effort is involved with managing developers and deciding on a revenue model.

Platform as a service is great if you know a bit about servers as you can install and configure your web environment how you like; most of the time ISPs host the operating system for you on a virtual server environment, which is brilliant for getting you up and running. It's great as you can just rent what you need without investing in expensive hardware and you can usually cancel after a year. My virtual server cost just over £300 per annum for a Windows OS.

One of the hardest things to consider is your revenue generating model. I have friends that run free sites such as eCards and Fitness sites that do ok out of Adwords, but it just seems to be a bit of extra money for them for the traffic that they get - eCards dont seem to do as well as they used to with social networking. To get good Adwords fees, you need to have some good content on your site.

I put together a blog of my journey on our site..Just search google for CamisOnline blog (i'm new so can't post URL's yet). I hope it helps others consider the effort involved as I'm not so sure I'd do it again!

 

[Alan]

Exactly. I have to be cynical and suggest that I read the OP as "what can I set up online and leave running that makes me loads of money without having to do much in the way of work?"

Have you ever looked at elance, it is full of people wanting something for nothing.

To paraphrase a recent one "Build me 20 websites that earn $10 day each from Adsense, you need to do everything. Budget, under $500. No payment until income proven" Hmmm, so if I could build $73,000 p.a. revenue for a day or two's work (or even a months work) why on earth would I do that for that person!

 

[eventdomain]

Until you find a business you enjoy (eg: lifestyle) and seeing as you may enjoy a I.T based biz - suggest you set up a website that can pull in some revenue to cover future biz start-up costs with little effort ONCE its set up.

Propbably best way is to start an affiliate site, pack this out with text information by category/titles, photos. images, other links to information - even video (at some stage later on).

Easiest way to do this:

1. Buy a £200 blog software tool

2. Decide on subject matter (you want something that's Hot/popular, but not saturated and become the best at it!).

3. Place adsense adverts on it, also some targeted affiliate links

4. Pack it out big-time with loads of content - one single type will do for starters. Get about 1000 content pages added, some links exchanges, Twitter and it should get some ranking. This will only work if you have tons of content, you will need a lot with good writing.

I'd brainstorm the idea first - you need that great idea (its best) as copying something saturated is fatal - so try and be original. If you really cant be original, then select an industry thats quite popular and change the type of content/idea to offer different content/service.

Its best to get some content first eg: 100 pages, put on adsense, then test. Don't build 1000 pages to begin with, just incase you get the idea wrong.

Hopefully, you'll make a few hundred here and there, which will help seed your main idea.

 

[Alan]

So 1,000 pages at approx £50 per page for quality copywriting = £50,000.

No small investment.

 

[eventdomain]

So 1,000 pages at approx £50 per page for quality copywriting = £50,000.

nooooooooo! that's insane I think you know I wasn't suggesting that.

Point is they do this themselves, eg: finds content, writes some personally, then tests it first without risking major effort or spend. The adsense acts as a guide to whether it will make money or not.

 

[Alan]

OK do it yourself.

Assuming that you have the ability to write decent copy, which you could charge £50 per page, then 1,000 pages = £50,000 is lost opportunity.

Either way it has the same value. So agreed you invest £50k (of your own time) in a 1,000 page website, what is the expected Adsense revenue, I would hope at least £20k p.a. or it wouldn't look like a good investment, would it?

 

[eventdomain]

OK do it yourself.

Assuming that you have the ability to write decent copy, which you could charge £50 per page, then 1,000 pages = £50,000 is lost opportunity.

Ok - enough! as you are now suggesting the premise of setting up v-expensive corporate websites, which my suggestion wasn't based on.

For a blog - there's nothing wrong with self-generated content, as long as its accurate, helpful content, its perfectly ok to do and can probably be monetised - as long as its plentiful to keep visitors returning.

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So agreed you invest £50k (of your own time)

But its not really spending £50k - you aint writing a cheque as its just personal time at stake. So in reality you wouldn't spend thousands of hours writing content to start things off and test. Maybe later YES! - but only when the blog/site has proven itself to work.

That's why I said 'Test content'.....

 

[Alan]

I'll give you that you did say test with 100 pages. Lets say a well composed page take 90 minutes. So that is 150 hours of effort.

You might not put a value on time used to create a business (or even test a business) that is your choice, it is just not the way I think.

 

[eventdomain]

Lets say a well composed page take 90 minutes.

mmmm, this won't apply as the content needed for a blog post to work won't require 90 mins work. So, a good properly done blog, well designed and content-rich should do well eventually. But 90 mins work? I could probably wack up about 30 blog posts in that time-frame.

Posts will soon fill up a blog quite quickly @ 4 or 8 posts per day - its not much time really is it. Place a Twitter link direct to each post and you just doubled your SERP placement.

I dont think copywriting the info is necessary, as the subject matter will sell itself, and you aren't charging people to read are you? ....the blog is supposed to be free, and earn from the affiliate ads.

 

[Alan]

You are on. I'll have 30 well composed, meaningful, unique blog posts, 500 words each. Drop them by for me by 6pm. I'll happily pay you a reasonable wage for it, but I know you wont take any money from me.


Now I must stop this nonsense.

 

[eventdomain]

Sorry, are you doubting 8 blog posts per day is doable? as I can easily direct you to my blog now if you want, and we'll soon see who is correct.

I'll have 30 well composed, meaningful, unique blog posts, 500 words each

Huh - nobody mentioned 500 worded perfecto posts at all, so why weave that into the debate. I dont imagine the OP wants to go to that extreme for an affiliate blog do you.

 

[Alan]

I said I'd stop it, but you keep tempting me back.

PM me your blog.

 

[eventdomain]

Hi Roibot,

just posted you a PM with the proof that I do what I say can be done very easily, with basic english writing skills.

The proof is 2 articles I wrote ages ago @ 313 words plus each, which took me about 10 - 15 minutes to do (each one). Although our private debate was about blog posts which are always shorter in length and thus could be done in a few minutes.

I stand by the fact that some 1000 word article idea isnt necessary to produce results the way you think they must be, and such content would look weird placed on a website not specifically built to utilise or promote it. Eg - a non-resource site.

Articles built for search engine manipulation are frowned upon, the limited amount of sites that can accommodate articles isnt enough to supply traffic that will produce sales. And how many bother to read a 500 word article that's so geared to self-promotion, and not part of a giant resource portal who's aim is to serve from a goodwill gesture viewpoint...

Searchers are savvy..... they aren't fools and will tell when a website is 'for profit purposes' and one that is a true resource. So trying to fool the visitor into thinking the freelancer is an expert (just because they wrote a few 500 word articles) over the owners of giant traffic-producing portals -- is always a losing battle.

 

[Alan]

Just some minor corrections

I mentioned 500 words articles, not 1,000 word articles (as that is gernerally what a useful article is and generally SEO's consider articles less than 250 words to be sub optimal), you are getting confused with your own suggesstion to create 1,000 blog posts.

So you agree that to write 30 good articles (as per your 313 line articles) would take a subject matter expert like yourself 6.25 hours (based on your average 12.5 minutes) and not your 90 minute boast of earlier.

You shouldn't mislead people that writing good copy is simple and take no time => no cost.

I can see you don't believe what you are preaching as your own site has very few blog posts often a month or two apart. If your truely believed what you have been saying in this thread it would have been demonstrated in your actions.

Thats all I have to say on the matter.

 

[eventdomain]

So you agree that to write 30 good articles (as per your 313 line articles) would take a subject matter expert like yourself 6.25 hours

No I don't. I said and I quote:

8 blog posts per day is doable

which it is - just proven by myself to you based on clear, unquestionable evidence.

a subject matter expert like yourself 6.25 hours

500 word articles is very different to a blog post, and I wouldn't make such claims as the work rate is too high and not able to be maintained, to write thirty articles@ 500 words in that time frame - probably not with every day distractions.

But now that I've said that - Actually I just started an article and did 305 words in about 15 mins - so probably would take me another 10 to finish it off - so, maybe 25 mins per article - so maybe 12 articles (@500 words each) is possible - for me, but why would anyone want to do this?

 

[Alan]

Get about 1000 content pages added, some links exchanges, Twitter and it should get some ranking. This will only work if you have tons of content, you will need a lot with good writing.

So you agree 12 a day = 83 days effort = a lot of work