Where to find Internet marketer or affiliate?
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Debbie Barnes
Hi Shaun,
Affiliate networks are the best place to look for advertisers. Search for UK affiliate networks and join one that is going to have the most advertisers suitable for your website.
Alternatively, you could come up with a list of brands you would like to partner with and find out the contact details of their marketing managers. One way to do this is by searching for the company on LinkedIn and looking through the list of employees. InMail them if you subscribe to LinkedIn, or send them an email if they have it listed on their profile (or just have a guess at their email address!).
Hope that helps, good luck with your affiliate program!
Affiliate networks are the best place to look for advertisers. Search for UK affiliate networks and join one that is going to have the most advertisers suitable for your website.
Alternatively, you could come up with a list of brands you would like to partner with and find out the contact details of their marketing managers. One way to do this is by searching for the company on LinkedIn and looking through the list of employees. InMail them if you subscribe to LinkedIn, or send them an email if they have it listed on their profile (or just have a guess at their email address!).
Hope that helps, good luck with your affiliate program!
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Debbie Barnes
Hi Shaun,
The business I work for operates as a publisher on several affiliate networks such as Affiliate Window, LinkShare, etc. Typically commission rates tend to be around 4-6% of the transaction value or a fixed price per subscription (CPA), which could be anything from £1 for a subscription box to £25 for a mobile contract.
I haven't worked with a dating site for a while now but I think we never made more than £5-10 CPA so 50% rev share might be a little high! However, if you did offer that you would get lots of publishers willing to promote your service because they are going to make more if they work with you.
Bear in mind the major affiliate networks require you to be making a minimum level of turnover (I think it's at least £100k annually) before they will accept your application. Also they charge at least £2k a month plus commissions, tenancy fees, etc.
Debbie.
The business I work for operates as a publisher on several affiliate networks such as Affiliate Window, LinkShare, etc. Typically commission rates tend to be around 4-6% of the transaction value or a fixed price per subscription (CPA), which could be anything from £1 for a subscription box to £25 for a mobile contract.
I haven't worked with a dating site for a while now but I think we never made more than £5-10 CPA so 50% rev share might be a little high! However, if you did offer that you would get lots of publishers willing to promote your service because they are going to make more if they work with you.
Bear in mind the major affiliate networks require you to be making a minimum level of turnover (I think it's at least £100k annually) before they will accept your application. Also they charge at least £2k a month plus commissions, tenancy fees, etc.
Debbie.
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Hospitality_king
The affiliate trap - ahhh how so many just don't know... There are several flaws:
1. Great way for the merchant program owner to make piles of cash (but only from the crème de la crème of sites).
2. The golden partnerships are too picky and won't use anyone!!!
3. To make cash here, you must be the very very best in your field, and you will never beat the best of CJ, Doubleclick etc etc.
our vast experience of building sites of value and traffic in excess of 1 million visitors per year, we didn't earn jack squat didly doo - nada, zilch, nothing, our ads network was supposedly targeted, according to the affiliate provider, we were highly targeted, but just tore our hair out trying to figure what went wrong. Later we discovered our clientelle weren't interested in the affiliate ads, so we were screwed - they didn't click the ads/make purchases.
Yes, the publishers own visitors and will suss out the ads are affiliate ones and will run a mile, rather than click the links. The publishers will/must work out the ads suck or don't work and will remove your ad blocks quicker that a fart in the wind or the speed of light.
Golden rule is if the publisher cant make money, you WILL lose your ad blocks. Lose enough blocks, and you'll lose advertisers - no advertisers and publishers have nothing to earn from.
Your ad blocks must be perfect to entice clickthroughs, to maximise visitor interaction - you fail here, and you might as well bin the idea.
Basically, all publishers take the risk, it costs just to place the ads onto their sites, eg: suggest at least $200, and even another 200 to remove them. Its such a risk for publishers.
Good luck ok.
1. Great way for the merchant program owner to make piles of cash (but only from the crème de la crème of sites).
2. The golden partnerships are too picky and won't use anyone!!!
3. To make cash here, you must be the very very best in your field, and you will never beat the best of CJ, Doubleclick etc etc.
our vast experience of building sites of value and traffic in excess of 1 million visitors per year, we didn't earn jack squat didly doo - nada, zilch, nothing, our ads network was supposedly targeted, according to the affiliate provider, we were highly targeted, but just tore our hair out trying to figure what went wrong. Later we discovered our clientelle weren't interested in the affiliate ads, so we were screwed - they didn't click the ads/make purchases.
Yes, the publishers own visitors and will suss out the ads are affiliate ones and will run a mile, rather than click the links. The publishers will/must work out the ads suck or don't work and will remove your ad blocks quicker that a fart in the wind or the speed of light.
Golden rule is if the publisher cant make money, you WILL lose your ad blocks. Lose enough blocks, and you'll lose advertisers - no advertisers and publishers have nothing to earn from.
Your ad blocks must be perfect to entice clickthroughs, to maximise visitor interaction - you fail here, and you might as well bin the idea.
Basically, all publishers take the risk, it costs just to place the ads onto their sites, eg: suggest at least $200, and even another 200 to remove them. Its such a risk for publishers.
Good luck ok.
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Debbie
Thanks for the info. I don't think I can invest lot of money for large network. Maybe try small first.
Hospitality_king
Sounds too bad but I agree with you. Will put the best effort on the ad so it converts.
ilya
We offer dating membership. Maybe you could have a look at Rekonnect dot com affiliate program and advise?
Thanks for the info. I don't think I can invest lot of money for large network. Maybe try small first.
Hospitality_king
Sounds too bad but I agree with you. Will put the best effort on the ad so it converts.
ilya
We offer dating membership. Maybe you could have a look at Rekonnect dot com affiliate program and advise?
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Hospitality_king
Unfortunately, you wont be able to, the program owner controls the ads, what they look like, how their displayed etc. No matter how you place them, the ad blocks are the same eg: same design, colour, font etc. as when we did this, are sure we could't alter the ad blocks for best advantage, it was in the terms of service
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Hospitality_king
Ad inventory, depends on how many paying clients you can get, and you will get few to begin with and perhaps not the amount you think you will get. You need big numbers and a profile to attract affiliates/advert partners.
As soon as these affiliates realise no one is clicking the ads in your network from their site - they will remove you and seek results elsewhere, but chances are that will fail too cos their site cannot be set up to make the ads work.
You need some decent inventory first to attract the affiliates, then once you got say 3000 affiliates, you can use this to get more inventory categories. How are you going to do this?
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Hospitality_king
Its not an easy thing - and will take a very long time to get anywhere with it. Yu will need a network of sites all promoting your client adverts - only way it will work. See, you need to show you are big, and can deliver results or advertisers won't pay you.
Your probably best to sell ad space direct from the website as extras. its a bit easier than building a network.
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Dating niche affiliate program...whoa...that's a tough one...especially one that is focused on affairs.
You would need to build up a significant user base in order to encourage affiliates to promote your website.
I generally promote campaigns through Webgains, Affiliatefuture, etc, as I can see stats that show typical returns and successes from affiliate promotions.
You need to do a lot of promotion to generate a significant level of traffic and users and make the site something truly interesting for affiliates. At the moment it's not.
You would need to build up a significant user base in order to encourage affiliates to promote your website.
I generally promote campaigns through Webgains, Affiliatefuture, etc, as I can see stats that show typical returns and successes from affiliate promotions.
You need to do a lot of promotion to generate a significant level of traffic and users and make the site something truly interesting for affiliates. At the moment it's not.
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boring-friday
Ok, er, you aren't thinking straight for starters, and as usual you look like many others with a kiddy mentality - a money grabbing, ease eg; wack up a bit of content, and slap some Amazon to it and you'll be rich, cos the traffic must convery every time.
See what you failed to understand on so many levels is how hard this is to achieve. I wont waste my valuable time giving a lecture, but I will force this point - too many affiliate ad blocks are uniformed so they fail eg: you cant just place em on any style pf site, all sites must be designed around the links and blocks, and that;s expensive my friend, bloody pricey, and and out of most people's league.
The affiliate program owner's client's ads are already designed to the affiliate program owners specs right! and they even put in their terms that you cannot change them, so whats left, you got no choice but to re-design your site to incorporate the ads, most of which look so gross I would never click em, just cos they scream out 'I want to make a pile of cash from your clicks, and not give you anything of value'.
Did I mention the ads look gross??? so who the hell would click on a bunch of out of place adverts. All your looking at is a few clicks every month or 3 months - we've done this quite a few times with some of our lower-league sites.
Plus all the ads Ive ever seen all have the provider's branding on them eg: bidvertiser, amazon etc, and you cant mess with that like removing it, to make them look like its not affiliate , you know, real adveretisers!! so to ring in more sales. You'll be booted so fast from the program.
And when I say Golden partnership, I don't mean the huge firms sites, I'm talking about the non-players sites, the mid-range and lower league publishers and most of thoise will tell you where to stick the ads, probably somewhere that don't let the light in! Well the dumb kiddys won't cos their thick as 2 short planks and don't listen or think before they act
Also, thing is - if the program ads is so lucky to end up on some million traffic website, once it works out that its too expensive to make work and the sales aren't rushing in, it will get removed.
Also what you failed to work out that is the publishers sites don't have the facility to simply add/remove ads, so - they got to pay web designer bloke at least $400 a time to do this, and you think the publishers will stand for this do you lol. One or two mistakes and most of these kiddy sites will sink, just from the costs alone.
Whats a redesign cost these days (to accommodate the 1000's of amazing affiliate networks ads that are needed to draw in the tiny sales per click) - $5k - $7k? what you think some kid working off daddys web connection can afford that - maybe you should think before opening your mouth. So that just leaves us with sites like mine who will sweetly tell the affiliate ad suckers to go cry some more cos hell will freeze over before they think they can use us to make them bigger.
...... dream on ad suckers, it aint going to work for ya.
Some kid aint going to make 1000's from affiliate programs, do ya get me.
I was going to reply but lol oh my, I'm putting you on ignore now but this was another gem, not as much as you thinking you need to spend £10k per year to host a site with a million visitors/year but it was close:
$5-7k for a amazon affiliate site? Lol maybe $5-7 plus a hour and whatever you want to spend on content. Theres plugins that can import 1000s of products straight away if you like lol.
And lol I don't do much affiliate marketing but all my amazon sites have literally terrible $3/500 words content, I don't want them to read it, I want them to click my amazon links.
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FreebieBoy34
Hi there! My advice on this is to visit different affiliate marketing forums and target specific members who are potentially interested with you (you have to follow forum rules of course while doing this). Then, you can also collect different contact details and start communicating with them through email. Just make sure you are not sending spammy messages to them... Other than that, you can do blog and social media posting so you can make people be aware of your program and encourage them to become affiliates...
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