Website leasing - Can you help

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jamie2007

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  • #1
    Hello I have a friend that is a new business startup and needs to get some business/enquiries via the web.

    He built a site called
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    [URL="http://www.massaffect.co.uk/"]www.massaffect.co.uk[/URL]
    but got stuck with it.

    He basically does discos, lighting, events for weddings etc etc, he is based in Cornwall and is going to see someone in Truro tomorrow that will lease him a website for £50 per month and get him to the top of Google search engines with an option to purchase the site at a later date (unfortunately I dont know the name of the company)

    I want to help him where possible and we are currently getting a steady stream through of leads through telemarketing.

    He basically offers everything from disco (I hate that word) through to kids entertainers at weddings, disco & lighting hire, including balloons the whole lot.

    Is there any pitfalls he needs to be aware of as I dont want him signing into a long contractual agreement that turns out to be not that good or crap!

    At the same time I dont want to appear as if I am trying to take charge, its his company and I am helping with lead generation.

    He produces amazing lighting for disco's, I havent quite seen anything like it down here.

    He needs to get going from tomorrow ish maybe starting off with the website showing discos for wedding/parties etc with pictures and some strong seo for Cornwall area and then adding more content to it as he will be adding photography as well as the others i mentioned like balloons, kids entertainers.

    The competition in way of website appearances are a joke and very amateurish stuff..

    He will be offering about 75% of whats on this site:

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    [/URL][URL]http://www.firebirdevents.co.uk/[/URL][URL="http://www.firebirdevents.co.uk/"]


    I really would appreciate some advice.

    Thanks

    Jamie
     
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    SpencyCWS

  • #2
    Any company that guarantees top page ranking Google is not worth working with, run a mile.

    If your friend pays £50 for say a year, he has spent £600.

    With £600 he could get a nice website built, that he owns, on decent hosting and can push forward, without the worry of it not being his.

    Seriously, spend the money on getting something he owns developed, it is the only way IMHO to build a long term website for your business.
     
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    DPOM

  • #3
    Hi there

    Its going to take a while for any website to start delivering results and as mentioned above no one can guarentee a number 1 listing in Google - absolute rubbish if they say they can.

    We specialise in pay monthly websites designed for start ups and small businessess, they include everything you need to get started with unlimited pages, unlimited updates (you can update your site yourself too) and basic SEO. Every 12 months we'll also re-design the site for you too if you require it.

    Also, you can cancel our service or buy the site outright at anytime (ideal if cashflow is tight in the begining, the site can be bought later once funds allow) I.e. there's no contract or penalty for cancellation

    You can see more about us by clicking the link below.

    If you'd like a chat just PM me :)
     
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    jamie2007

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    Is that more or less the same thing though, its rent/lease isnt it?

    So if he paid monthly and lets say £50 per month over 12 months thats £600 and the website has a value of £600 would you still delete it after 12 months as really we have paid for it by then.

    So how much is it to buy your £600 website at the end of the rental term

    Cheers

    RentAWebsite said:
    Just to clarify..while some firms do "lease" pre-ranked sites, thats not what we do. We simply provide a pay monthly web design service and if you cancel you keep your domain name and we delete your site (unless you buy it off us and take it with you.)
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  • #9
    Hi Jamie,

    In answer to your first question, there is no "term". You can rent for the first month and then buy it if you wish or rent for ever.

    If you do chose to buy it, its for 12 months payments not 24.

    Try not to think about as if your paying a loan for example. Its like renting / leasing a car...you rent / lease it for as long as you require but when you finish renting it you don't own the car...unless you buy it. But while your renting / leasing the car you get everything included, tax disc, maintenance etc which a portion of your monthly rental covers.

    Hope that makes sense

    I've got your PM ill reply to that...
     
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  • #10
    Just thought I'd add, that ongoing "renting" isn't a bad thing, every 12 months we'll re-design the site if you wish too, at no extra charge and we'll update it for you as often as you like. (you can do it yourself too if you choose but since most of our clients prefer to concentrate on running their businesses, we offer the update service at no charge to make it more convenient)

    Renting isn't going to be for everyone, but we think we offer a great service that offers some good benefits for businesses over "buy outright" websites (Like the yearly re-designs and updates for free)
     
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  • #14
    Hi Massey

    Thanks for your comments, its appreciated. We are a small family company and the points you raise are pretty much the reason we started this... we wanted to provide firms with a good product that actually adds value to their business, try and make things a little more personal and throw a bit of traditional good ole service into it!

    As I said before, our service may not be for everyone, but most of our business comes from referrals so it seems we're getting something right!

    Thanks again.
     
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    Hi there,

    We could build you a very good website for under £600 that your friend will own.

    As mentioned above, anyone that promises number one will more than likely not get you on the first page!

    SEO is something that takes time and if done correctly can get you to number one but cant be promised.

    Jamie
     
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  • #17
    Just to clarify..Rent A Web isn't website finance, our monthly payment not only includes the website, it includes unlimited updates, a re-designed site every year (If wanted), unlimited pages and at the moment a basic SEO package which builds backlinks. On the SEO note theres also additional packages a client can take for increased results if its needed.

    The idea is to provide a balanced site that not only looks the part, it can actually get found.

    As another note, for clarity, whilst the client is "renting" if he ever ceased to rent and didn't want to buy the site, the site is deleted and not resold etc. So strictly speaking i suppose you could argue the site isnt "his" but on the otherhand it isnt going to anyone else if you see my point.

    In summary, sure you can buy a site for £600 no probs, but it will probably cost extra for any form of ongoing SEO, updates and in a couple of years if you want to change the design then it could be £600 again. So really, "site ownership" is not really that relevant, its not like you can sell it on when you want a new one is it?
     
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    clickgold

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    Appearing on the first page of Google may take time if the keyword competition is stiff.

    On the other hand, if he is going to be serving people in his area, location then going on the first page of Google is going to be relatively easy.

    I have checked his site and believe with a few tweaks and adjustment, we can get him to rank well.
     
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    gribbler

  • #19
    Hi,

    I can build him his own website for around £300. This would include his hosting for a year (£40 per year after that).

    It would be build using a CMS, so he can easily change content without knowing any web programming. In the £300 I'll also throw in an hour of updates per month for a year.

    So in the first year he'll save £300 compared to the cost of the rented website, and £560 each year after that.

    Cheers
    Alan
     
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    gribbler said:
    Hi,

    I can build him his own website for around £300. This would include his hosting for a year (£40 per year after that).

    It would be build using a CMS, so he can easily change content without knowing any web programming. In the £300 I'll also throw in an hour of updates per month for a year.

    So in the first year he'll save £300 compared to the cost of the rented website, and £560 each year after that.

    Cheers
    Alan
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    To be fair thats giving it away and certainly cheaper at a glance.

    But remember, we offer unlimited updates as often as you like, Free monthly SEO (including backlink building), and a brand new website every year if its required.

    So lots to consider :)

    In fairness the OP hasn't been around for a while so I think its safe to say this topic is about dead :cool:
    So
     
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    holmewoodorg

  • #21
    My answer is do not lease a site, waste of money pay someone 600 pounds and get them to design it properly. I run http://www.bradford-web-design.com/ but do you think we just walk in the office and the phone rings for two hours and then we do a bit of web design get paid and go home. No. Yes good website helps but you have to do the telesales to generate decent business. On top of this I am senior export manager for the pacific at Multibrands (just type it into Google) We sell to Homebase, Morrisons, Spar and throughout the world. I myself am tying up a 20k deal with Medswanna in Botswana for next month. The point I am making here is yes it is fine having a good website but you still have to chase for business, business does not chase you. The site for the disco looks like it was designed by a kid who has just done his GCSEs and for 50 pounds a month I would want a lot better. Best of look with the telemarketing though and I hope your business succeeds. All the best from the future. Paul
     
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    MASSEY

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    holmewoodorg said:
    My answer is do not lease a site, waste of money pay someone 600 pounds and get them to design it properly. I run http://www.bradford-web-design.com/ but do you think we just walk in the office and the phone rings for two hours and then we do a bit of web design get paid and go home. No. Yes good website helps but you have to do the telesales to generate decent business. On top of this I am senior export manager for the pacific at Multibrands (just type it into Google) We sell to Homebase, Morrisons, Spar and throughout the world. I myself am tying up a 20k deal with Medswanna in Botswana for next month. The point I am making here is yes it is fine having a good website but you still have to chase for business, business does not chase you. The site for the disco looks like it was designed by a kid who has just done his GCSEs and for 50 pounds a month I would want a lot better. Best of look with the telemarketing though and I hope your business succeeds. All the best from the future. Paul
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    It all depends what the business is. If the site you have gets enough traffic and there is a demand then you can milk a website and be busy enough to not have to make telesales calls.
     
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