VAT Question - stressed out on a saturday night

[Emu]

Hi - I have just made my 1st ever VAT payment, I totally forgot to include my VAT number on the ref field so I have just send HMRC a few £k with no link to my account. Classic.

I know its likley not going to be lost but I also I know that it is due at the end of the month - I will give them a call on Monday to discuss.... Has anyone done anything like this before? How much chaos do you see this been to fix

I never pay anything via bank transfer and assumed the ref number would be on the next screen after pressing next but it wasnt......

 

[billybob99]

Sorry for your mistake.

HMRC are one of the most incompetent companies out there.

It should get sorted out eventually.

Wishing you all the best.

 

[Emu]

Yeah this is what I was thinking....... I think I can write off monday

 

[Noah]

Hi - I have just made my 1st ever VAT payment, I totally forgot to include my VAT number on the ref field so I have just send HMRC a few £k with no link to my account. Classic.

I know its likley not going to be lost but I also I know that it is due at the end of the month - I will give them a call on Monday to discuss.... Has anyone done anything like this before? How much chaos do you see this been to fix

I never pay anything via bank transfer and assumed the ref number would be on the next screen after pressing next but it wasnt......

Don't worry - they will track it down eventually with your help. As long as you are talking to them about it they are very unlikely to do anything punitive.

As a matter of interest, is this an MTD VAT return?

 

[Emu]

As a matter of interest, is this an MTD VAT return?

I actually couldnt tell you but I dont think so, I try to stay as far away from all this stuff as possible. We pressed the thing is Xero to submit it waited two days, checked the balance in the thing you log into for hmrc and then transferred the money (with no ref number). I dont think that counts as MTD, Ill get someone to sort it all that side of things out once Ive fixed my own mess!

 

[kulture]

Whilst you are on with HMRC, set up a Direct Debit mandate with them. That way the payment is automatic, several days latter, and always with their reference.

 

[Emu]

Whilst you are on with HMRC, set up a Direct Debit mandate with them. That way the payment is automatic, several days latter, and always with their reference.

Ive never liked DD, I dont use them at all ever for anything but this might be the one exception where I will set one up

 

[ecommerce84]

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it (actually that’s a lie as I personally probably would as I like to beat myself up over these sorts of things).

As Noah mentioned HMRC will find it eventually anyway, it may jut be a case of persevering until you speak to the right person. You may even hit the jackpot and speak to that person on Monday morning.

Imagine the absolute worst case scenario where you are hauled in front of a judge for non payment of VAT - you can very easily show that you made a payment for the correct amount, into the correct account before it was due, and they’d probably be thrown out of court for not finding it.

Sleep well and enjoy a worry free Sunday.

 

[Emu]

Imagine the absolute worst case scenario where you are hauled in front of a judge for non payment of VAT - you can very easily show that you made a payment for the correct amount, into the correct account before it was due, and they’d probably be thrown out of court for not finding it.

Id f'ing love this to actually happen, youve lifted my mood, Ill log off for the night

 

[Mr D]

Surely they have some method of tracking down unallocated payments. With date, amount and originating account it may be simply a matter of searching payments.

 

[JpeeL]

They will find it by tracking the bank account number it was transferred from. You will also be able to provide them with amount, date and even time it was transferred, they will find it no problem.

I’d love to be able to see that VAT account mount up, the numbers must be insane!

 

[kulture]

Whilst you are on with HMRC, set up a Direct Debit mandate with them. That way the payment is automatic, several days latter, and always with their reference.

I don't like DD either, but HMRC always takes the amount you tell them, and they always take it at the last possible date. Well after you would normally pay yourself. So it helps cash flow.

 

[Noah]

Surely they have some method of tracking down unallocated payments. With date, amount and originating account it may be simply a matter of searching payments.

He's called Emu - don't call him Shirley.

 

[Mr D]

He's called Emu - don't call him Shirley.

Airplane!

 

[JEREMY HAWKE]

Vat return on the weekend
That's the first mistake

 

[Mitch3473]

To be fair, they're a decent bunch on the end of the phone at HMRC and you're probably assuming the worst. Not worth losing sleep over.

 

[Mr D]

To be fair, they're a decent bunch on the end of the phone at HMRC and you're probably assuming the worst. Not worth losing sleep over.

This is a different group of people than every time I have called them?
I'd use a lot of words for HMRC, would never have thought 'decent' would apply.
Perhaps I'm simply speaking to the wrong people.

 

[Mitch3473]

This is a different group of people than every time I have called them?
I'd use a lot of words for HMRC, would never have thought 'decent' would apply.
Perhaps I'm simply speaking to the wrong people.

I've got a soft spot for a Geordie lass......

 

[Noah]

I've got a soft spot for a Geordie lass......

My people are Scottish; I share your opinion otherwise.

 

[paulears]

They didn't take my last vat payment and I queried it. You've paid , they said zero balance. I said I hadn't and the money was still in the account. Eventually they realised I hadn't and I had to pay it manually!