Unfairly Dismissed

[Bri]

Just cant please some people. John, if your boss wanted rid of you he would have, simples. Its a fact of life now that compensation of wages has to be paid much to our chagrin.
Cant you have just said its all resolved to both our satisfaction. Your boss may have just noticed production gone down since youve been off and that you are an essential cog in the wheel without you thinking he's paying you lip service.

And by the way, I am happy for you its resolved, now go and show him what he's missed and no more mistakes.......measure twice, cut once.

 

[ShortCouture]

John, Your issue is not about whether you are any good at your job. This is about the process that they went though.

Presumably someone there wanted you out - for whatever reason (possibly they need to reduce staff numbers and this is cheaper than paying redundancy). But there are rules about how to do this. If we assume for a moment (and I'm not saying that this is the case) that you made far too many mistakes and they considered that you were costing them too much - then they should have dealt with that by talking to you and helping you to improve. So either way, they have not done this correctly.

There are laid down processes that companies have to follow to 'manage out' employees. Sounds as though they did not follow those.

You have first to consider if you want your job back (will you really enjoy working there? are they about to shutdown anyway) - or to get some compensation and to move on.

Ring around some local solicitors-many will give you 30 mins free consultation to see if they would take your case. If you win, the employer would pay a chunk of your costs. You will pay some costs - hopefully less thasn £500. And as others have said - there is Citizens Advice - but I have always found that to be fairly useless.

We should be managing our small businesses well - and that includes the people .

 

[Bill Ryan]

Hi John

Sense is prevailing - hope things work out for you.

Just one thing (and this is from memory and didn't want to reread the thread - sorry if you mentioned it before) but where did the final warning come in?

 

[ShortCouture]

John, excellent news that is sorted. Get the co to write it down for you, that you will be paid, that they retract the warning, that you are re-instated etc etc.

Might sound like a pain now - but if anything else happens you will need this in writing to stop them going back on it. Don't make a fuss - just ask them to write to you confirming it so that it cancels out the dismissal letter.

 

[iridessa]

I'm please to hear that this is sorted for you...especially with christmas approaching and having a family....it must be a relief. I do think that what has happened to you is dreadful though.....it seems that the decision was not properly thought through in the first place.
I would give your boss the benefit of the doubt, put your head down and get on with the work. However, given the way you have been treated I would certainly look out for yourself in future....it wouldn't do any harm looking about , perhaps after Christmas, and see what else is out there.

 

[johnt5293]

Thanks for all the comments.

To respond to Bri, I'm sorry if my remark offended you some how. But, I am pleased I have my job back, and that we managed to sort the whole thing out between us. I know that getting rid of me would have had an impact initially on profits, as I was the most experienced on a particular machine. I do believe that if they didn't really want me back, then I wouldn't be there, but I dont think there is any denying that the prospect having to pay 5-7k had something to do with it somewhere along the line.

Anyway, I'm pleased I have the job back that I enjoy, and that 99% of the time I am good at.

My boss has given me a written statement saying that my warning has been retracted, and that we have both agreed to wipe the slate clean. He is paying me for the time I have had off, and my employment is ongoing, not new.

I hope we can both forget and move on and draw positives from it. I think he's learned something about me, and I will certainly take that extra little bit of care at work to avoid having to come home and tell the wife i've lost my job, having to phone the mortgage company and saying I cant pay, and going to the job centre and signing on... a sobering experience I hope never to have again...

Thank you all, and hope you are now looking forward to christmas as much as I am...

John

 

[Bri]

you didnt offend me at all,I think my comment was a bit like a text message, toneless.However I detected a bit of negativeness in your result which I come across every day. I dont know what it is but as a nation we cant seem to take an apology or a pat on the back without some underlying comment that we are being shafted or the finger.

Despite whats posted in the threads our hearts are as said before in the right place.(or as my other half says the way to a mans heart is through the middle with a carving knife).

Stick around on the forum and join in, before you know it you'll be a hard nosed cynic like the rest of us.

Thank you for the seasonal wishes and mine to you and your family and may your Christmas Carol not be a dickensian one.(Folks is this a record, the earliest christmas greeting on the forum)

 

[thebigIAM]

No women then, Sirearl?

And before anyone asks at one time in my illustrious career I had 200 men working for the company