UK SEO Hosting Multiple c-class IPs

[BenKirkwood]

Hi,

I'm looking for PHP hosting for 10 sites+ across multiple independent c-class IP's (UK based). I've found plenty of sources US based but I'm looking for something this side of the pond - trying to avoid going to multiple providers to get what I need - any suggestions?

Ben

 

[nitro23456]

try whd4u.co.uk

who also happen to be one of my SEO clients.

 

[zomex]

Hello Ben,

Personally I'd be very wary of 'seo hosting'. In my opinion Google is simply too smart to only take the IP into consideration when looking at two sites that link together. They could also look at the domains whois etc.

May I ask what your plan is for these websites? Are you looking to link them together?

Thanks,
Jack

 

[crossdaz]

They could also look at the domains whois etc.

You can put what you want in whois so that's not really going to be much uses is it?

In answer to the question Vidahost can set you up with multiple IP's.

 

[zomex]

You can put what you want in whois so that's not really going to be much uses is it?

In answer to the question Vidahost can set you up with multiple IP's.

That's correct, you can also put 'cheap credit card companies' in your title tag when your website is about computers. All I'm saying is that with Google's vast amount of data they will be able to see past using different c class IPs. Even if they don't notice it I can't imagine that it will have much benefit to a sites ranking at all. However that's just my opinion.

This is a great thread because I haven't come across any UK based hosts providing multiple c class ips. I know that seohosting.com has a good reputation but of course they are US based.

Jack

 

[crossdaz]

All I'm saying is that with Google's vast amount of data they will be able to see past using different c class IPs. Even if they don't notice it I can't imagine that it will have much benefit to a sites ranking at all. However that's just my opinion.

I'm sure you are right on the wider issue - it's quite difficult to hide an incestuous relationship between a group of sites.

 

[zomex]

I'm sure you are right on the wider issue - it's quite difficult to hide an incestuous relationship between a group of sites.

That's cool. I thought I was going mad

 

[Dominic Taylor]

I'm sure you are right on the wider issue - it's quite difficult to hide an incestuous relationship between a group of sites.

Yup. Google's whole algorithm is based around the relationships between sites. Regardless of IP or whatever.

They look at links between sites; that's pretty much it. OK it's more complex than that obviously but what I mean is - they certainly don't look at the IPs on which sites are hosted.

And anyway, what's a class C? Let's say I was totally non-technical and put "classfull internet routing" (ok so a little technical) into Google. The first result is Wikipedia and the first sentence is:

A classful network is a network architecture used in the Internet until around 1993.

I think that closes the book on that one.

Now for truly authoritative links about Useful Things:

http://smackdown.blogsblogsblogs.com/2010/06/15/dear-matt-cutts-whats-your-take-on-addon-domains/

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/

Summary, anyone saying you need separate Class C IPs for separate sites simply doesn't understand: networking, routing, The Internet, proper web development and modern SEO, Google and its ranking methods or mathematics.

The following are excellent links for general reading:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/type/googleseo/
http://code.google.com/speed/

 

[ecenica]

@Ben - Sounds interesting. What are you looking at achieve with your websites?

Is it actually to do with SEO/Google?

^RM.

 

[ecenica]

Just re-read thread title "UK SEO Hosting Multiple c-class IPs". Says it all really. LOL.

As others have correctly said, for a long time now Google has been pretty smart at looking beyond the IP address when calculating relationships

Some interesting comments at this link. Dated 2006 but nothing to suggest it's not still current;

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/myth-busting-virtual-hosts-vs-dedicated-ip-addresses/

^RM.

 

[BenKirkwood]

@Ben - Sounds interesting. What are you looking at achieve with your websites?

Is it actually to do with SEO/Google?

^RM.

It's an SEO experiment (nothing to do with my real job!). I'm trying to reproduce a successful campaign I ran in the USA last year that used separate c-class servers to tackle a really tough impenetrable keyword market. This is not a link farm, its far more sophisticated and involves syndicating unique content to boost WEB 2.0 properties (yes, in Google).

The project is a "test the boundaries" set of domains that I'm prepared to lose from the serps in the name of education! as a pro marketer, I try to find the boundaries between white, grey and black hat and frequently lose domains - I never associate any grey or black with a commercial domain - doesn't everyone do this sort of testing? I've been creating "throw-away" domains for a number of years.

I probably said too much! hope big G isn't listening!

I'm currently working with http://whd4u.co.uk/ (suggested on this thread) and we've got up to 7 unique c-classes now (working on getting more).

B.

 

[Kingdingle22]

How did your tests go Ben?