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I am flirting with the idea of getting some terms and conditions sorted out because we've got a customer lined up who wants to withhold a big portion of the balance until the final payment. We usually have the majority of money in advance and leave a small final payment of less than £1000, this customer wants to withhold much more so I'd like to avoid room for discrepancy.
I have a few questions regarding T&C's and i have also found some T&C's for free on the web that seem to me to be pretty much what i am after and wouldn't mind some feedback on them, they aren't that long and could probably be squeezed down to a couple of pages if font size was 11px.
First question, is it not obvious to both you, the customer and pretty much everyone that you do not work for free and, therefore, anything outside of your original quotation in terms of extras will be chargeable, are there not laws that account for common sense without having to have clauses in T&C's?
Do most terms and conditions for services include sections that basically say if we damage something while carrying out the service we are not responsible? I have public liability and would, of course, claim if we caused some bad damage, but the clauses in the free T&C i have posted below seem to suggest that the service provider will take care but if we, for instance, scuff a bit of posh wallpaper while going about our daily business, it's your problem? The reason i ask is because this customer is a bit weird about his carpets, even though they aren't the best, and the last thing you want is someone kicking up a fuss over a bit of dust or a negligible stain as a result of relatively invasive works.
Also, it says in the T&C that the customer does not own the goods until full payment has been made, which is a fair term i think but really you want your T&C to ensure that you do get paid, so i couldn't envisage a scenario outside of the customer simply running out of money that would result in us wanting to break in and rip out everything we have supplied because they do not own it.
How do your present the T&C, is is ok to put at the bottom of the quote 'subject to T&C's which can be found at and then link to a web address page or suggest that they can request a copy, or do you shrink them down to the tiniest font possible in light grey and put it on the back of the quote? haha.
I'd like to strike a balance between protecting ourselves financially, and not treating the customer like a mug.
This is the T&C below, grateful for any input.
I have a few questions regarding T&C's and i have also found some T&C's for free on the web that seem to me to be pretty much what i am after and wouldn't mind some feedback on them, they aren't that long and could probably be squeezed down to a couple of pages if font size was 11px.
First question, is it not obvious to both you, the customer and pretty much everyone that you do not work for free and, therefore, anything outside of your original quotation in terms of extras will be chargeable, are there not laws that account for common sense without having to have clauses in T&C's?
Do most terms and conditions for services include sections that basically say if we damage something while carrying out the service we are not responsible? I have public liability and would, of course, claim if we caused some bad damage, but the clauses in the free T&C i have posted below seem to suggest that the service provider will take care but if we, for instance, scuff a bit of posh wallpaper while going about our daily business, it's your problem? The reason i ask is because this customer is a bit weird about his carpets, even though they aren't the best, and the last thing you want is someone kicking up a fuss over a bit of dust or a negligible stain as a result of relatively invasive works.
Also, it says in the T&C that the customer does not own the goods until full payment has been made, which is a fair term i think but really you want your T&C to ensure that you do get paid, so i couldn't envisage a scenario outside of the customer simply running out of money that would result in us wanting to break in and rip out everything we have supplied because they do not own it.
How do your present the T&C, is is ok to put at the bottom of the quote 'subject to T&C's which can be found at and then link to a web address page or suggest that they can request a copy, or do you shrink them down to the tiniest font possible in light grey and put it on the back of the quote? haha.
I'd like to strike a balance between protecting ourselves financially, and not treating the customer like a mug.
This is the T&C below, grateful for any input.
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