Tenant that always delays rent

Jianghai Qiu

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hello, I'm new to this forum
This my first post
I'm currently a owner of a flat in
Rumney, Cardiff
My flat has been rented since December 2015
And my tenant keeps delaying rent almost every month
But this time, the rent for June has been delayed for almost a month now, I'm just wondering is there is any solution to this.
I'm currently overseas, and she doesn't answer any of my phone calls

If anyone can suggest a solution, that would be much appreciated
Jianghai Qiu
 
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ethical PR

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    Did you take up references before taking on your tenant?
    What does your tenancy agreement/contract say about implications of late payment of rent?
    Is your tenant working?
    If you haven't gone through a lettings agency, you may need to send her a letter saying that the rent has now been xxx weeks overdue on xxx number of occasions and if this continues you may need to terminate the tenancy (if your lease allows for this).
    You may need to consult a solicitor to get the wording right on any communications.

    Send the letter recorded delivery.

    If she is regularly paying late you don't want to get to a situation where she stops paying completely and you end up with a costly eviction. You might want to look at terminating the tenancy for late payment now if your tenancy agreement allows for this.
     
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    Big G

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    As ethical PR has pointed out above, alot of what you can do depends on what the terms of the lease say.

    Did you have a guarantor at all?

    We act for alot of letting agents and landlords so we could definitely help you with this if you would like to look us up or drop us a private message to discuss further.
     
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    Why don't you think about letting a professional company deal with it for you, one that guarantees your rent whether the tenant pays it or not. Sure you'd have to take a hit on the rental income but at least you'd get it. Could be cheaper in the long run instead of potentially going through months and months of non-payment whilst you go through the courts (slowly).
     
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    Toby Willows

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    You'd probably do better going to www landlord zone co uk/forums (put dots in the spaces, I'm a newbee so can't post links), I've found the advice there generally great, and moreover it's a forum for landlords! Residential leasing is only something I've dabbled in and pretty much hassle free, so can't give you advice directly.

    www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums

    Haa ha, this was my 30th post so I can give you the link!!

    EDIT
    That doesn't mean the previous advice on this thread isn't any good, it's all relevant and worth noting. It's just you'll find many similar circumstances on the other forum from people who have been there and done it. No offence intended Ladies and Gents :)
     
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    ABCV

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    This is probably not the right forum - however you're best option (given that you are already in this situation) is probably to seek some legal advice and instruct a professional company to act on your behalf as you are living abroad. You will have to consider either serving a Section 21 or Section 8 notice to your tenant and take it from there - but do your research beforehand.

    But if you want quick possession of your property be prepared to give-up all hope of receiving the rent arrears.

    Search the government website for "Evicting tenants".
     
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    I'd suggest this is essentially a case of either trying to negotiate with the tenant to get on track with paying rent or (if possible) serving a section 21 or 8. I'm a member of The National landlords Association and would recommend them being a point of call. If you're a member you simply call their help line and they work through it with you. Failing that if it was me I'd speak to Landlord Action. I've fortunately never had to use them but I know a few people who have and been very pleased with the results. Good luck.
     
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    alang23

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    We have a large property portfolio and this is not an uncommon situation.

    Your main problem is that you are not resident in the UK, and using either a Section 21 Notice or a Section 8 Notice generally involve a 'Hearing' at the Court. You can overcome this by using a Solicitor to represent you.
    A Section 21 Notice (often called Accelerated Possession) is Mandatory provided you have passed the period of Tenancy. You can not seek eviction within the guaranteed period of Tenancy using a Section 21 Notice. There is however 'no defence' to a Section 21 Notice provided it is correctly served. There is only a Hearing if the Tenant wants to challenge the Section 21 Notice, otherwise it can be done by post via the Court

    We then have a Section 8 Notice which can be used during the period of Tenancy, however the main problem is that most conditions are 'discretionary' and the Judges are inclined to side with the Tenant. A Hearing at the Court is inevitable in open Court in front of a Judge. You can have massive rent arrears and just before a Hearing the Tenant makes a small payment and a Judge may decide to accept that the Tenant is making an effort to pay. !!! We've got people paying off arrears where seemingly I will have to live to about 300 years old to get the money back. !! Therefore not surprising we go with a Section 21 Notice where Possession is Mandatory and there is no defence.

    If the Tenant doesn't vacate upon a date given by the Court you simply pay another £110 to the Bailiff section at the Court and they visit the property and remove the Tenants......you can't remove them as you will receive a large fine.!!! Bailiffs do not mess around and deliver Possession back to you.

    If you are serving any Notice then deliver it by hand with a Witness (and get a Witness statement) and then also send another copy with Proof of Posting. We have numerous times Tenants have tried to wriggle out of it by 'claiming' the Notice was never received. Also don't bother to send the Notice as Recorded/Signed For as many Tenants who are in Arrears refuse to sign for it as they know what it will contain. They then can revert back to a defence of 'never received it'. !!

    I agree with some of the other replies , join your local Landlords Association as they have all the necessary documents you will need, and can talk you through it if you want to do it yourself. Alternatively use a Solicitor as the documents have to be correct without errors, and if not the Judge will 'strike the case out' and you are back to square one again.

    This is just an 'overview' if you want more then PM me.

    Regards

    Alang23
     
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    alang23

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    @alang23 very detailed guidance. Whats the best solution if the tenant is in arrears?

    The 'best solution' is to evict the tenant under a Section 21 Notice as Possession is guaranteed as it is 'mandatory'. Judges have no scope to allow the tenancy to continue.
    A Section 8 Notice being generally 'Discretionary' (on the Judge)gives you no certainty of Possession.
    Landlords rarely evict a good tenant (unless they wish to sell a property). The rent is paid every month often by direct debit or if on Housing Benefit can be paid directly to you.Therefore you have a recurring payment every month, and you should 'look after' a good tenant just as you would a good customer.
    With a reluctant tenant, rent may or may not be paid, damage may occur to the property, the property may not be looked after etc. Things only get worse. Therefore you are better cutting your losses and getting a decent tenant.

    The problem is for 'accidental' landlords or casual landlords (e.g. you've inherited your parents home and want to rent it out rather than sell it). If you can't devote the time to the regulations and legislation then use an Agent. Many landlords buy an 'investment property' then become overwhelmed with the paperwork. For example you need to ensure you tenancy is legal/serve Notices correctly/know how to fill in Court paperwork (at £355 a time to evict !!!!)/arrange for Electrical Certificates/Gas certificates/insurance/and now check that the tenant has a 'right' to live in the UK /you also have to correctly deal with Tenancy Deposit legislation (or it becomes a nightmare to evict any one) etc etc.
    If you can't do it or haven't got the time use an Agent. Or at the very least join your local landlords association where you can pick the brains of other landlords and have free access to necessary forms and documents (e.g. Tenancy Agreements/Court Documents/guidance etc)

    We've got a large number of properties, so we've got our own maintenance staff. We even print the phone numbers of our maintenance people on the tenancy agreement so there is no doubt the tenant should know what to do.
    We have got all the necessary up to date legal documents Tenancy Agreements/Court documents and know how to fill them in.!! We've been to Court so many times we've got a 'season ticket' there !! We've heard every conceivable excuse. At the Court the Tenants have access to the 'Duty' Solicitor (sign here 'free' legal aid....all at the taxpayers expense!!!). The 'Duty Solicitors' first line is that the 'Tenant never received the Notice to Quit, so it is not valid'. That is why in my first post I said deliver the original Notice by Hand with A Witness, and post a second copy with Proof of Posting. !!! You can then refer the Judge to the Witness statement that the Notice was delivered correctly AND a second copy sent by Royal Mail and this is the 'Proof of Posting Certificate'. !!! The next game the 'Duty Solicitor' will play is that eviction will cause the tenant real 'hardship' and they request the Judge to delay eviction by the maximum 42 days for 'exceptional circumstances'.!! The answer to that is also quite simple, the tenant does not have a life threatening condition, they simply haven't bothered to find alternative accommodation during the period of Notice (usually 2 months)then a further 4-6 weeks awaiting the Court process. So in 3 months + they have not secured alternative accommodation and that is not our problem.

    Generally Judges are on the side of the tenant so you are always 'going uphill'.!

    Regards
    Alang23
     
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