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    Isn't it funny that the chemical attack happened a reported 15 minutes away from the premises that the UN inspectors were based?

    And now there are reports of sniper fire on the UN inspectors vehicles.

    It all smells as if the rebels have done it and claimed the Syrian Army did it to get diplomatic countries in the West to start their bombing games.

    I wonder whether the UK - US military will be able to kill as many Syrian citizens as Assad has managed to. :|

    There goes the MOD budget :rolleyes:
     

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    BAE shareholders around the world will be rubbing their hands together.;)

    Only one winner in war.:)

    Will we be sending unmanned drones on our X boxes.

    How on earth dropping bombs on all and saundry solves anything is beyond me.
     
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    What do you think is going to happen now?

    It seems the US are just about ready to launch an attack. Will Britain follow? Will Mr. Cameron decide that a retaliation towards these "banned" chemical attacks is the necessary thing to do?

    American forces are "ready" to launch strikes on Syria if President Barack Obama chooses to order an attack
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    Will Russia and China (Syria's allies) retaliate?

    Hmm!! Interesting!
     
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    Can anyone explain why Cameron has broken off his holiday, why he has recalled parliament and why he is contemplating military action against a country 2000 miles away?

    Do we have a vast trade with them? A lot of Brits living there? A dog in the fight at all?

    From what I can see it is Assad backed by Shi'a Iran and Hezbollah versus al Qaeda Sunni forces. Whoever wins will try and kill loads of the losers and be be grade A shi'ts, so why even think about wasting UK blood and treasure over there?
     
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    trebor8 said:
    Funny you should say that, the west used to be a big arms trader to the Syrians

    Now, where/when has this happened before. Same ole **** goes round and round
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    I was under the impression that Syria was armed by the Russians until recently, and when that slowed to a trickle the North Koreans.
    Russian influence started in around 1956, (Suez crisis), and ended with Syria joining the west against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War, Kuwait edition.
     
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    It seems the UK will launch strikes as early as Friday!? Is it me or is that a bad idea? Syria have good relationships with north Korea.. I can't see them just sitting back and watching!

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    Top Hat said:
    I'm a bit stuck as to why it was OK for thousand to be killed with bullets and bombs and now its not OK because of chemical weapons.

    The whole thing is a mess, it will be a disaster area for many years no matter what side gets the upper hand.
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    It's because the use of chemical weapons is banned world wide. Our PM said that he can't sit back and watch chemical weapons being used otherwise it could eventually escalate to other countries or would be used again.

    But I understand what you mean. The world will eventually annihilate itself.

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    KM-Tiger said:
    Can only feel despair that we seem to have learned nothing from Iraq and the WMD fiasco.

    Even if there was convincing proof, which there isn't, I'm not sure we should get involved. We could inadvertently be doing Al Qaeda's work for them.
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    Too dam right we should get involved, we can't ignore this and hope it goes away. The international community should stand firm against these atrocities

    but not by the usual methods and we need to stop selling arms directly and indirectly to middle eastern countries
     
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    What do you do when you see a little guy being beaten with a stick by a bigger guy?

    Do you find a bigger stick, several more big guys, and give the big fella the hiding of his life (beat him to death), or give the little fella a goodly sized stick so he can fight a decent fair fight on his own?

    Because lets face it, they are gonna fight.

    I'm not educated enough to know whether WW2 was ended by nuking Hiroshima, but that's certainly the argument I've heard put forward in it's defence.

    It's hard, but I think we should stay out of it. Our American 'brothers' will do what they will anyway. I can't see they need us, what with our total of 2 missiles and a few leftover hand-grenades.

    Hmmm.
     
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    http://www.france24.com/en/20130828-intercepted-phone-call-proves-syria-used-chemical-weapons

    Been wondering why the BBC etc, with their 'in-depth reporting' have not even mentioned this? they seem to prefer to focus on the division between Labour & tory, and electioneering.....

    And the referring back to the Iraq fiasco and lies about WMD.......seems a bit harsh to pin that on Cameron, when it was Blair feathering his own nest that took us into that.

    I'm not sure if we should get involved, but I am at a loss as to why we haven't so far, given we got involved in and encouraged the 'Arab Spring' elsewhere (and made a balls of it).

    The dead kids were a rough sight, and somebody needs to do something about that.....otherwise what is the whole NATO/UN/etc all about?
     
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    johndon68 said:
    But you provided that link in response to a question about the impact of the nuclear bomb drop on Hiroshima...

    As for Japan's role in WW2, don't worry I know a lot more about it than you think I do :p :D

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    Well the impact of the nuclear bomb attacks on Japan certainly shortened the war for the people they fell on.;)

    How on earth should I have a clue about what you know about Japan.:D
     
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    johndon68 said:
    Of course you wouldn't yet you felt the need to say, and I quote:

    "Afraid Japans role in ww2 was pretty insignificant as was the US involvement."

    when you replied to my post... :D

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    and your point is.:|


    "The Soviet Union destroyed a Japanese army of 800,000 men in Manchuria over a period of 12 days with minimal casualties in August 1945. The Japanese army was quite ineffective if compared to the armies of the Western powers."
     
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    The Russian operation began between the dates Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed.

    So they beat up a shed load of Japanese troops who thought they had no chance anyway, knew their major ally had been defeated and who thought they would be vapourized by the Yanks if they beat the Reds.

    Yay for the brave victorious troops of the Motherland. Hooray for killing millions and still having time for rape and pillage on an industrial scale. Yay for Stalin. Yay for apologists of slaughter.

    Feh.
     
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    Nuno said:
    The Russian operation began between the dates Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed.

    So they beat up a shed load of Japanese troops who thought they had no chance anyway, knew their major ally had been defeated and who thought they would be vapourized by the Yanks if they beat the Reds.

    Yay for the brave victorious troops of the Motherland. Hooray for killing millions and still having time for rape and pillage on an industrial scale. Yay for Stalin. Yay for apologists of slaughter.

    Feh.
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    Yeah but did the Mother lands finest kill enough.:|

    Japanese soldiers killed millions of civilians and prisoners of war from surrounding nations. At least 20 million Chinese died during the Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945)

    Yup you would probably not be writting anything if it were not for the Rusky hords.:)
     
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    internetspaceships said:
    Earl must have been wandering round in a bubble all that time. My dad's 72 and he can remember all the reporting and detail about what went on.

    It's silly for someone else of that age group to claim to have such a twisted recollection of what went wrong.
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    Your dad may well be defying science in that case.

    Not many 3 year olds are that bright.:D

    Even if you begin reading aloud to your baby during pregnancy and don't miss a day from birth to age 5, your child will still need to learn how to decode the printed page. The majority of children will pass through several important stages on their way to becoming good readers - that is, able to gain meaning and understanding from the printed page.

    Daddy may well tell fibs.:p
     
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    sirearl said:
    Yeah but did the Mother lands finest kill enough.:|

    Japanese soldiers killed millions of civilians and prisoners of war from surrounding nations. At least 20 million Chinese died during the Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945)

    Yup you would probably not be writting anything if it were not for the Rusky hords.:)
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    Well the Motherland's leaders certainly tried to kill enough. Of their own soldiers. The leaders were so grossly incompetent and corrupt in civilian and military life that all they could do was chuck bodies at the Germans at Stalingrad and elsewhere. No plans, no equipment, no food, no bloody clue.

    But lets not get into a jingoistic argument about who won the atrocity race, Japs or Ruskies? Both a nasty bunch of sh'its anyway.

    Lets get Putin and the funloving Spetznaz to go into Syria and, as is their way, kill everybody.
    Sorted. Your Russian heroes do their genocide bit, you are happy and we don't waste blood or treasure. Yay for Earl (and all fans of mass murder).

    (BTW did you know it is "hordes" not "hords"? You did ask me if English was my second language...)
     
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    Nuno said:
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    Yay for the brave victorious troops of the Motherland. Hooray for killing millions and still having time for rape and pillage on an industrial scale.
    Feh.
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    Yup just the sort of soldiers one needs if you are going to fight a war.

    War has no rules,that would be insanity as the aim is to kill as many of the enemy as possible as every good soldier knows.

    No good sending a brigade of mother teresa's.

    "War is the continuation of politics by other means"

    Or in laymans terms.

    Throwing ones toys out of the pram when one does not get ones way,usually proceeded by a lot of name calling.:p
     
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    sirearl said:
    Yup just the sort of soldiers one needs if you are going to fight a war.

    War has no rules,that would be insanity as the aim is to kill as many of the enemy as possible as every good soldier knows.

    No good sending a brigade of mother teresa's.

    "War is the continuation of politics by other means"

    Or in laymans terms.

    Throwing ones toys out of the pram when one does not get ones way,usually proceeded by a lot of name calling.:p
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    That's where we differ. You, liking the socialist, statist ideology care little for the humans, only for the objectives which are your objectives as everyone else is always wrong..

    So sod it, kill Citizen Cockroach in the millions or they might start thinking they are humans, not just things the state owns.

    As more of the libertarian way of thinking I don't think it OK to kill or even to justify killing millions of people.

    Face it. You celebrate tyrants and mass killers. Why don't you come clean and say those Syrian kids, poisoned by gas, were asking for it? Asking to be sacrificed for the Motherland. Well, didn't they know a war was going on and "War has no rules,that would be insanity" as you say?
     
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    Nuno said:
    That's where we differ. You, liking the socialist, statist ideology care little for the humans, only for the objectives which are your objectives as everyone else is always wrong..

    So sod it, kill Citizen Cockroach in the millions or they might start thinking they are humans, not just things the state owns.
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    One would have to be as thick as the proverbial after reading my posts to think I was.

    A.a socialist.

    B. a supporter of war in any form.

    So do you qualify.:p
     
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