streaming video costs

[zshane]

hello there,

i was just enquiring about web design services. and this one company quoted around £400 for a website which is pretty much reasonable for a 6 page.

however there is around 1-2 minute video that i wanted on the web page.

he then quoted around £400 on top! to incorporate that 1-2minute video. that seems very strange to me...

i made him aware that i would output the video file to whatever format is required for the web, but he still said that it requires a lot of heavy programming, streaming etc. the cost excludes hosting which is different altogether.

what do yo have to say about this, as im quite new to this field. what is the process for a web designer to incoporate a little video/s, and a what costs.

I did not want a link to you tube

Thank you

 

[Liybpg]

can't you just embed your video from youtube for free?

 

[zshane]

thanks for he reply, i am aware that you can link from you tube for free, but as stated in my post, that is one method i wanted to avoid for now.

iv created a 1-2 min video and can also output that to any format, but he wants around £400 just to incorporate that into the site.

 

[newsvend]

He probably doesn't have access to a streaming server, so may be pricing in a yearly streaming server account at a third party.

Have a look at our news video service page at http://www.newsvend.com/video-news.html and if you like the way we implement these (mouseover for controls), then I'm sure we could offer you a cheaper price for hosting on the streaming servers we use.

 

[dan11]

£400 seems steep, i would shop around get a few quotes. Try posting the video work to some of the freelance websites around such as elance.com or freelancer.com. I am sure you will find someone who already has a script/flash file made up to make this work.

 

[Liybpg]

is it just that you think that youtube won't look professional?

I'm sure you can find other services which will do just the same. you could probably buy some video streaming software.

here's some kind of tutorial about streaming videos:

http://www.mediacollege.com/video/streaming/overview.html

"True streaming video must be delivered from a specialized streaming server" - so I guess it would make more sense to upload to some website like youtube (choose any other if you prefer)

 

[bigmouth241]

Requires no special "programming", just embed a flash player in your page & use progressive streaming via HTTP.

1-2 minute video (corporate intro thing?) is better off done that way. Streaming server (Flash, WM, Wowza etc) is overkill for your needs.

Tell you what, we'll do it for half the fee you were quoted .....!!!

 

[no118.co.uk]

It is really simple to add.

If you want some free help, just frop me a line and I will help you to get it on your site for FREE.

 

[zshane]

thanks for your replys.

that is what i am concerned about, if i was to provide the video file, or in this case lets say flash file, why is there any extra charges for this.

i thought when a company quotes you for a web design, it for a web design.

in regards with streaming and hosting, that a different category isnt it?

iv lost faith in that chap but he did say that the price to physically put on the video is additional £400, as i did not have any techincal knowledge i stayed quite.

i would have thought it will be at no cost whats so ever, if i am providing. im paying for a design after all, and providing him with the material. Just like you provide web site content for the designers.

any further feedback on this, or is it just me

also thanks for that post i will pm you

 

[Liybpg]

I don't generally like to deal with people who try to milk me for money. But if he does a good design, it's a low amount of money for a website

 

[Morraine]

thanks for your replys.

that is what i am concerned about, if i was to provide the video file, or in this case lets say flash file, why is there any extra charges for this.

i thought when a company quotes you for a web design, it for a web design.

in regards with streaming and hosting, that a different category isnt it?

iv lost faith in that chap but he did say that the price to physically put on the video is additional £400, as i did not have any techincal knowledge i stayed quite.

i would have thought it will be at no cost whats so ever, if i am providing. im paying for a design after all, and providing him with the material. Just like you provide web site content for the designers.

any further feedback on this, or is it just me

also thanks for that post i will pm you

do you already have the video file in an flv format and embedded into a flash swf file with all the controls like volume, play, pause, stop, rewind, etc.....

if not then i think charging you £200 to do this is fair.
if you have already dont this then to be honest still charging you is fair but probably only £50.

 

[zshane]

hi morraine

your answer seems very positive. but after all i not moaning about costs but want to know exactly whats costs are for what service.

The answer to your questions is no, i dnt have the player with the pause, play etc.

if i was to provide that swf file with the play, pause etc, then why the extra cost (in your case £50), is that not part of the web design package?

i did mention this to the designer but he waffled on with his technical knowledge and lost me.

Thanks

 

[adventurelife]

I host endless amount of videos for less than £200 a year on amazon servers ( Max 10 mins each)

If you have it in correct file format £400 is very very steep

I host as above then just embed in a website

 

[Morraine]

hi morraine

your answer seems very positive. but after all i not moaning about costs but want to know exactly whats costs are for what service.

The answer to your questions is no, i dnt have the player with the pause, play etc.

if i was to provide that swf file with the play, pause etc, then why the extra cost (in your case £50), is that not part of the web design package?

i did mention this to the designer but he waffled on with his technical knowledge and lost me.

Thanks

The reason that i believe that its fair enough to do this is that he quoted a price to design a website, now that you want flash content on it as well then this is extra code on the actual website as well. he would have to do some javascript so that it would display with out the active content block in Internet explorer and would add browser checking (well i would anyway) to see if they had the flash player installed. if they dont then i would either prompt them to download the player of just display an image were the flash content was.

 

[zshane]

right i undersand

 

[newsvend]

For anyone interested, there's a useful resource just come into my inbox today on embedding video into your website: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3873616

 

[Morraine]

For anyone interested, there's a useful resource just come into my inbox today on embedding video into your website: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/we...le.php/3873616

i wouldn't recommend embedding a mov file on your site.

a: the user needs quick-time installed on there pc. (not very likely compared to flash)

B: it dont stream they would be waiting ages for some video to download. (mov files are bigger than flvs)

c: its just glitchy compared to playing an flv through flash.

if your going to put video on your site you may as well do it properly.

 

[zshane]

very interesting and helpful comments

thanks

also, newsvend that article was impressive

 

[no118.co.uk]

i wouldn't recommend embedding a mov file on your site.

a: the user needs quick-time installed on there pc. (not very likely compared to flash)

B: it dont stream they would be waiting ages for some video to download. (mov files are bigger than flvs)

c: its just glitchy compared to playing an flv through flash.

if your going to put video on your site you may as well do it properly.

If you use flv or mp4 files are good. An example of the use of a mp4 file can be found at www.no118.co.uk/web.zip. You can download the zip file and see how the html script is used.

If you need any further help, just send me a pm. All help would be free.

 

[zshane]

no118 thank you very much

 

[no118.co.uk]

no118 thank you very much

If you need this done to your site, drop me a line, I will be happy to help for free.

Your welcome