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Sorry Elenanor. You have completey lost me on this one. You don't seem to want as you say yousellf to invest about £300 quid in your own business to at have least have samples. Yet you expect sponsers to pay you to the extent of retail prices. Frankly that defies all logic and I am afraid to say that you have lost all credibility with me. Rob
 
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Sorry Elenanor. You have completey lost me on this one. You don't seem to want as you say yousellf to invest about £300 quid in your own business to at have least have samples. Yet you expect sponsers to pay you to the extent of retail prices. Frankly that defies all logic and I am afraid to say that you have lost all credibility with me. Rob
You forgot to say... "I'm out.."
 
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Sorry Elenanor. You have completey lost me on this one. You don't seem to want as you say yousellf to invest about £300 quid in your own business to at have least have samples. Yet you expect sponsers to pay you to the extent of retail prices. Frankly that defies all logic and I am afraid to say that you have lost all credibility with me. Rob

Now I'm completely lost.

Maybe I have mislead you all by accident or you have misunderstood me.

I do not have £300 available to me right now to put into my next set of samples, this is due to overheads going up (along with everything else).

I'm sorry but I dont understand this. £300 is the bare minimum I need to make a collection, most collections cost considerably more, which is something I would discuss with a sponsor if he or she made enough profit from the first go round.

What? That £300 I'm being sponsored with isn't even enough to pay me a wage, it's just enough to pay for the materials and fabrics. I then sell the corsets (or rather, reproductions of the sample corset) to my customers for a profit, of which the sponsor is entitled to a cut.

I'm surprised I had it in the first place quite frankly. But thank you for all of your input in this thread, it has been both helpful and enlightening.



 
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Run it through me again why you are looking for a "Sponsor"?

Because I don't like the term "investor".

But on amore serious note.

I would like to expand my portfolio (which in turn, generates more clients), I don't know what you do for a living, but sewing the same styles over and over again can get rather tedious and take what I love about sewing away from me. So, since I don't have the cash available for fabrics and materials at the moment, I thought I would ask to see whether or not it was a viable idea to approach people about and what I should offer in return.

So far ideas have been to approach bridal stores for window space/stockist opportunities. I of course offer rediculously low wholesale prices so they can do the whole "2.4" thing that I am growing to despise and I get a bit of brand equity(?).

I would like my designs in a store, especially when I get some casual wear designed.
 
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You are quite wrong Noidea. I am looking at ways to support Eleanor because she like my deal mother god bless her soul has a skill much underrated these days. That of a professional seamstress. The only problem is here is that the business model is not focused and I will give that some consideation over the coming weekend with a view to investing in Eleanor's skills given a new direction. Rob
 
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Because I don't like the term "investor".

But on amore serious note.

I would like to expand my portfolio (which in turn, generates more clients), I don't know what you do for a living, but sewing the same styles over and over again can get rather tedious and take what I love about sewing away from me. So, since I don't have the cash available for fabrics and materials at the moment, I thought I would ask to see whether or not it was a viable idea to approach people about and what I should offer in return.

So far ideas have been to approach bridal stores for window space/stockist opportunities. I of course offer rediculously low wholesale prices so they can do the whole "2.4" thing that I am growing to despise and I get a bit of brand equity(?).

I would like my designs in a store, especially when I get some casual wear designed.
Don't like the term investor.... hmm how about partner?

Looking for a "Sponsor" makes you sound like a charity and without any disrespect intended that has already stuck you to a disadvantage before people have even read the proposal.

Of course it just could be me, but that is my 5p...
 
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You are quite wrong Noidea. I am looking at ways to support Eleanor because she like my deal mother god bless her soul has a skill much underrated these days. That of a professional seamstress. The only problem is here is that the business model is not focused and I will give that some consideation over the coming weekend with a view to investing in Eleanor's skills given a new direction. Rob

:eek:

Thats the face I pulled. And I'm almost in tears. What you have just said has to be the nicest thing anyone has said about me. Ever.

I come from a long line of them as it turns out, 'tis in my blood to sew.
 
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Then SHUT UP Eleanor because you are telling people on here many of whom might have sent you orders that you dont even have the money for the raw materials. That's not a problem for me however because with a bit of finance we can rebrand and I have the perfect name for you kit . It will take me a while to work out any deal but I will PM you the name. I GUARANTEE YOU WILL LOVE IT. Rob
 
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You should be proud of yourself, in business hand-crafting from raw materials. It's not easy starting up on your own, and for you to set out to create your own little niche in what must be a very difficult market is hard, hard work. You have a lot of courage as well as your obvious skill with a needle. I wish you every success.

I'd be prepared to make you an offer, probably on a % basis, as my business is totally unrelated, but I'm struck by your candour and good humour, and would like to raise a fist against the GAPs of this world.

Drop me a PM in you fancy.
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Don't like the term investor.... hmm how about partner?

Looking for a "Sponsor" makes you sound like a charity and without any disrespect intended that has already stuck you to a disadvantage before people have even read the proposal.

Of course it just could be me, but that is my 5p...

Ahh, it doesnt matter though, because I'm not looking for you or any other UKFBer to sponsor/invest or partner with me, I wanted to know the best ways to approach other designer/makers or shops.

Robs already helped me by suggesting getting in contact with other D/Ms that already have a studio that I could possibly share so it was the right step for me to take to ask questions as I knew I could get appropriate answers.

Now I have a list of bridal shops to chase up tomorrow, magazines to talk to about "white space" and a potential sponsor.

Either way the information here has been imperitive to my aim.
 
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Ahh, it doesnt matter though, because I'm not looking for you or any other UKFBer to sponsor/invest or partner with me, I wanted to know the best ways to approach other designer/makers or shops.

Robs already helped me by suggesting getting in contact with other D/Ms that already have a studio that I could possibly share so it was the right step for me to take to ask questions as I knew I could get appropriate answers.

Now I have a list of bridal shops to chase up tomorrow, magazines to talk to about "white space" and a potential sponsor.

Either way the information here has been imperitive to my aim.
It does matter.

If you want to get anywhere you need to learn the art of communication

- body language (55%)
- tone of voice (38%)
- words/what is said (7%)

When you are pitching or communicating via a forum, email, letter etc. and the top two which makes a combined 93% isn't present the words become even more important.

If you word things wrong you aren't doing too well, on this forum it wont make much difference but when it comes to pitching, marketing, etc. it is imperitive
 
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It does matter.

If you want to get anywhere you need to learn the art of communication

- body language (55%)
- tone of voice (38%)
- words/what is said (7%)

When you are pitching or communicating via a forum, email, letter etc. and the top two which makes a combined 93% isn't present the words become even more important.

If you word things wrong you aren't doing too well, on this forum it wont make much difference but when it comes to pitching, marketing, etc. it is imperitive

Not that you have much to learn then, I would have though it was imperative when offering advice ;)
 
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Eleanor

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If you want to get anywhere you need to learn the art of communication

- body language (55%)
- tone of voice (38%)
- words/what is said (7%)

NoIdea, I know the above. Thank you for pointing it out to me again.

The thing is, I'm not pitching on this site, I'm asking for advice. I do this in a laid back manner because I want it to be a friendly discussion.
 
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NoIdea, I know the above. Thank you for pointing it out to me again.

The thing is, I'm not pitching on this site, I'm asking for advice. I do this in a laid back manner because I want it to be a friendly discussion.
Your attitude stinks.

I was just pointing it out in a friendly manner.

No need for the sarcastic "Thank you for pointing it out to me again" message which is incorrect considering I never pointed it out to you in the first place, or did I?
 
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Your attitude stinks.

I was just pointing it out in a friendly manner.

No need for the sarcastic "Thank you for pointing it out to me again" message which is incorrect considering I never pointed it out to you in the first place, or did I?

I'm sprry you feel like my attitude stinks but I'm trying to address all of the points and questions you asked after what you were like with MK Printing in another thread.

That kind of sucks because I constantly feel like I'm trying to defend myself with you.

As for my "sarcastic" thank you, no, you never pointed it out to me in the first place, but it is something I clearly forgot along the way, which you have pointed out.

I wasn't being sarcastic.
 
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I'm sprry you feel like my attitude stinks but I'm trying to address all of the points and questions you asked after what you were like with MK Printing in another thread.

That kind of sucks because I constantly feel like I'm trying to defend myself with you.

As for my "sarcastic" thank you, no, you never pointed it out to me in the first place, but it is something I clearly forgot along the way, which you have pointed out.

I wasn't being sarcastic.
So what is with the prejudice?

Let's get something clear...

(sorry in advance to other members)

MK ignored me and answered everyone else. Was I in the wrong to bring it to his attention that I was awaiting an answer?

Now, after reading that thread you hold a grudge against me. Now you are on the defensive for no reason at all.

I also never said you were pitching on this site.

yes I know MK has complained about me several times. I also know he started crying like a baby to the admin and mods on here. My opinion is my opinion, which I am entitled to like everyone else on here. Some times I am wrong which I have had pointed out to me by other members and I have stuck my hands up and admitted to it. Don't contradict yourself about wanting peoples opinions but deep down you only want ones that you agree with. You need to understand, whatever it is, business views, religion, politics etc. we all are not going to agree. So can't we at least be civil about things?
 
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Eleanor

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Ok, you know what, you're right.

In one of your first posts here - you asked me how much my collection is worth (as that would help determine a offerable percentage). That helped me. I then spent an hour going over my costs, what previous people have spent with me, how much I earn on average, basically, you helped me clear up a lot of stuff just by asking that.

So I am grateful.

But I cannot find the help (even in the criticisms - which I am more than willing to listen to if it is constructive) in the majority of your posts since then. You said that only 7% is words when you are trying to get accross to something, your 7% strikes me as rude sometimes.

ooh... was browsing your site ... "Emily is made from the most... " I thought you were selling people at first. I would consider sponsoring, but I don't like Apricot, So I'm Out.

And yes, you are entitled to your own opinions, I didn't say you aren't, but I have felt after reading numerous other threads that you can come accross as quite abrasive. This could just be me misunderstanding you... as you have misunderstood me.

If you have no viable input left for this topic, please don't post in it. Whilst I have found a copious amount of help and a wealth of information in it, as other might, I really don't feel it needs to be dragged out much more. Especially since what we are now discussing has nothing to do with the original post.

On another note. I now have 5 shops to contact who may consider stocking me, I have a clearer view/plan and I really feel as if I have learned something over the last couple of days.

So thank you to everyone who had some input. Let me know if there is ever anything I can do (haha! Like sewing,since thats all I can do!) for you.

Eleanor
 
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Down here in the smoke Lassie is a dog. Noidea. Non uf us are perefect but I guess I am as near as it comes
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or as Jack Nicholson said in that classic scene in 'one flew over the cuckoos nest' when the psychiatrist said what a terrific group session it had been

" you mean this is as good as it gets " . You said before my friend - your out.

It is easy to get confused as you get driven along on here and at least our Eleanor ( Correct spelling ) didn't go back and edit posts like the man from Birmingham. Lets leave the young lady to get on with it.
 
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Eleanor

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Hi Eleanor,
Since our brief exchange yesterday, It seems to have got a bit manic on here! Well have you got an investor/Partner. I am now somewhat confused?

Regards

Tony

No, I have no invester or partner yet. Still getting in touch with Bridal stores etc. Will probably go into the depths of Nottingham on Monday armed with my portfolio and maybe a sample(?). I am taking all advice given here on board and marching on to greatness! Yes.
 
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It's no secret Eleanor already said that I had given her some ideas on re-branding and I knocked up an intro for her with a rather calssy name for a corset boutique with the tag line

" Absolutely fabulous hand crafted corsetry by Eleanor Dalton".

I am not revealing the name in open forum in case Eleanor wants to register the domain but it has something to do with a French mystery woman.

Now that's going to get your hackles up isn't it wondering who she could be.
Rob:cool:
 
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It's no secret Eleanor already said that I had given her some ideas on re-branding and I knocked up an intro for her with a rather calssy name for a corset boutique with the tag line

" Absolutely fabulous hand crafted corsetry by Eleanor Dalton".

I am not revealing the name in open forum in case Eleanor wants to register the domain but it has something to do with a French mystery woman.

Now that's going to get your hackles up isn't it wondering who she could be.
Rob:cool:

Sounds good, I think boudoir chic old world charm is the ticket.:)
 
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Your fishing Maria No boudoir. That is where les mademoiselles entertain le young beau. Ou la la. This is a business salon cherrie - but you right chic is chic and always will be seen as sophisticated. Rob
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Quite like those shades but then again looks a bit like the Stic from Top Gear. Bet that is a lady or has one of the best kept secrets on telly be let out.
 
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