Should I report this to the police?

[bdw]

I would imagine that would just exasperate the situation given they are already calling the OP because he told them to "F" off after stringing them along.

Steve

I take it you mean exacerbate? :|

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[Posilan]

I take it you mean exacerbate? :|

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No, exasperate...

exasperate [ɪgˈzɑːspəˌreɪt]
vb (tr)
1. to cause great irritation or anger to; infuriate
2. to cause (an unpleasant feeling, condition, etc.) to worsen; aggravate

Steve

 

[bdw]

Back in school if I shouted at the bullies i expected abuse back. I don't think the real world is too much different. It doesn't make it right however, but it is how it is.

Back at school I was wise enough not to shout at the bullies. It was never a good idea but we are not talking about bullies here.


Look, as Mobyme says, someone was trying to rob me here. Let's get this in perspective. If someone tried to dip your wallet and you caught them in the act and swore at them would this make their action any more justifiable?

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[bdw]

I wasn't suggesting the OP doesn't pay his taxes. However, paying those taxes doesn't mean the police should be at your call 24/7. Particularly for a situation of your own making.

A situation of my own making? This is unbelievable. Did I invite someone to rob me? Was this poor person justified in leaving the following message on my answering machine because I told him him to "eff off" when he tried to do so?

{transcript}
" Mother****** stupid a***hole.
SOAB
I will **** your mum and **** your wife!
SOAB!
I will give you a call everyday!
I will **** your mum!
I will **** your daughter!
....
....
....
stupid a***hole!
B******!"

 

A situation of my own making? This is unbelievable. Did I invite someone to rob me? Was this poor person justified in leaving the following message on my answering machine because I told him him to "eff off" when he did so?

{transcript}
" Mother****** stupid a***hole.
SOAB
I will **** your mum and **** your wife!
SOAB!
I will give you a call everyday!
I will **** your mum!
I will **** your daughter!
....
....
....
stupid a***hole!
B******!"

You sure its not your bank manager?

 

[bdw]

^ Not funny! ^

 

^ Not funny! ^

Oh yes it is ,even me cats laughing.

 

[Suzuki]

A situation of my own making? This is unbelievable. Did I invite someone to rob me? Was this poor person justified in leaving the following message on my answering machine because I told him him to "eff off" when he tried to do so?

{transcript}
" Mother****** stupid a***hole.
SOAB
I will **** your mum and **** your wife!
SOAB!
I will give you a call everyday!
I will **** your mum!
I will **** your daughter!
....
....
....
stupid a***hole!
B******!"

Yes it was a situation of your own making... no the person wasn't justified in leaving that message.

The guy was trying to commit a crime... you wasted his time then were rude to him. So don't bother crying that it came back to bite you in the ass.

You said you wouldn't have talked back to bullies at school as you were wise enough then... have you lost a few brain cells since or something :|

Have your phone provider block all incoming international numbers, take the block back off in a month or so when this idiot has long forgotten about you.

 

[PrestonLad]

Yes it was a situation of your own making... no the person wasn't justified in leaving that message.

The guy was trying to commit a crime... you wasted his time then were rude to him. So don't bother crying that it came back to bite you in the ass.

You said you wouldn't have talked back to bullies at school as you were wise enough then... have you lost a few brain cells since or something :|

Have your phone provider block all incoming international numbers, take the block back off in a month or so when this idiot has long forgotten about you.

Have some empathy man. (or woman). How can you be so hard on a victim of such abuse?

 

[Suzuki]

Have some empathy man. (or woman). How can you be so hard on a victim of such abuse?

I'd be more sympathetic if a random caller phoned him and insulted his wife. Its hard to be sympathetic when he caused it himself!

Anyway if he follows the bit of advice in the last sentence of that post it'll be job done... he'll never need to think about it again.

 

[The Panda]

I just don't believe what I am reading here.
You should be nice to people that are trying to rob you!!!!!!!!
Just what planet are some of you people on?
Its attitudes like that that have got society where it is now.
So now we all know. If some one means you harm, be nice to them or they might do you more harm. Pathetic.

 

[bdw]

I just don't believe what I am reading here.
You should be nice to people that are trying to rob you!!!!!!!!
Just what planet are some of you people on?
Its attitudes like that that have got society where it is now.
So now we all know. If some one means you harm, be nice to them or they might do you more harm. Pathetic.

Yes, I must admit that I am very surprised at some of the attitudes being expressed by the world wise in here but then it takes all types.

Got my first call today at 07.50.

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[shadesofblue]

I just don't believe what I am reading here.
You should be nice to people that are trying to rob you!!!!!!!!
Just what planet are some of you people on?
Its attitudes like that that have got society where it is now.
So now we all know. If some one means you harm, be nice to them or they might do you more harm. Pathetic.

It's not a case of being nice, it's a case of applying common sense. The OP has tried to have some fun with them and be smart by trying to string them along. I suspect if that were the end of it he would be on the forum posting about how he got one up on them.

Unfortunately it's backfired and it's now his wife that has to suffer the consequences.

 

[Frank Nesbitt]

What a bunch of spineless wuss manure shovellers!!!!
Telephone the Police bdw as is your right as a British Citizen and make your complaint. The Harrassment Act was not brought out just for fun, or to be another piece of legislation to lie on statute books.
Some of you subscribers should feel a thousand shames. Talk about bull!!. I bet when someone is being kicked half to death outside a nightclub you turn away, or even worse blame the poor guy on the deck for saying eff off to the bullies abusing his wife. You bunch of cowards!!
Quo Vadis...Frank

 

[shadesofblue]

What a bunch of spineless wuss manure shovellers!!!!
Telephone the Police bdw as is your right as a British Citizen and make your complaint. The Harrassment Act was not brought out just for fun, or to be another piece of legislation to lie on statute books.
Some of you subscribers should feel a thousand shames. Talk about bull!!. I bet when someone is being kicked half to death outside a nightclub you turn away, or even worse blame the poor guy on the deck for saying eff off to the bullies abusing his wife. You bunch of cowards!!
Quo Vadis...Frank

No

I suspect we thank ourselves that the police aren't being tied up with frivolous reports and are able to attend and assist.

As much as it pains me I'd advise the OP to call the police on this occasion as it's clear he's unable to deal with the situation himself. While he's on the phone I'd suggest giving interflora a call and sending his wife a bunch of flowers for causing her this distress.

 

[Matt1959]

I dont see anything wuss like about posts on this thread. Would be interesting to know exactly what was said by the OP which has made this idiot caller spend so much of his life in trying to upset his family. I learnt my lesson when I told a foreign sounding caller once to F off in no uncertain circumstances and I did go on a bit - net result was I am 99% sure a spoof telephone enquiry for my service backed up by 2 emails - all harmless but it taught me the lesson that the advice given by OWG here is the best - say no and dont get involved.....

 

[Frank Nesbitt]

The Police operate a 101 system for the reporting of none urgent complaints.
You lot would probably dial 999 when kids opt to play football outside in the street next to your beamer!
For goodness sake stop acting like a rabble of scouse idiots who attacked a pediatrician cause they thought that meant he was a pedophile. (it actually happened)
And don't give me the holier than thou bull guys, it won't wash. I dealt with wimps for thirty years.
Quo Vadis...Frank

 

[allsquare]

My take on it.

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the way 'you' dealt with the call, the resulting calls are malicious and need to be stopped.

I would contact BT and the Police.

BT http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/9084/~/malicious,-nuisance-and-silent-calls%3F

Our local police have advice http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/c...sance/crprev-pers-comms-nuisance-repcalls.htm
and i'm sure your local force would have similar. If you are under Strathclyde Police (my geography isn't that great) contact them via Twitter https://twitter.com/KeepPeopleSafe

I would also ignore all the "Police are only interested in speeding tickets" style posts. Yes, their resources are limited and yes, they are often forced to target certain types of offenders but they need to be informed to at least build up a dossier of complaints to enable them to take action.

However you may agree or disagree, the law is there to help you.

 

[bdw]

As much as it pains me I'd advise the OP to call the police on this occasion as it's clear he's unable to deal with the situation himself. While he's on the phone I'd suggest giving interflora a call and sending his wife a bunch of flowers for causing her this distress.

If it was your intention to be offensive then congratulations. You have succeeded!

I asked for opinions. I did not mention not being able to deal with it myself and I did not cause my wife distress. That would be the guy dealing out the abuse you are thinking about.

In actual fact some of the opinions in here (like yours) are harder to deal with than the original problem.


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[shadesofblue]

The Police operate a 101 system for the reporting of none urgent complaints.
You lot would probably dial 999 when kids opt to play football outside in the street next to your beamer!
For goodness sake stop acting like a rabble of scouse idiots who attacked a pediatrician cause they thought that meant he was a pedophile. (it actually happened)
And don't give me the holier than thou bull guys, it won't wash. I dealt with wimps for thirty years.
Quo Vadis...Frank

I think you're missing the point, from my perspective I advocate not calling the police because it's a waste of their time. Therefore you're example of children playing by a car would warrant the same response from me. t get into the fact it's not even an illegal act.

Surely someone who calls the police at a whim is more likely to pick up the phone to them in the above example.

I don't understand where you're coming from with regards to the pedophile incident or how it reflects on this situation - perhaps you could elaborate

 

[Optegris]

For the record bdw, I would have done, and have done, exactly the same thing. I actually quite enjoy winding the buggers up and usually conclude my call by saying I access the Tinterweb through my xBox which guarantees a stumped silence every time.

As for your calls, do as suggested and contact the police. I assume you pay tax, well you should be using the facilities provided.

 

[Frank Nesbitt]

I don't understand where you're coming from with regards to the pedophile incident or how it reflects on this situation - perhaps you could elaborate

Exactly...your missing the point and to elaborate would be totally wasted!!

Good luck...Quo Vadis...Frank

 

[Simon-M]

If it was your intention to be offensive then congratulations. You have succeeded!

I asked for opinions. I did not mention not being able to deal with it myself and I did not cause my wife distress. That would be the guy dealing out the abuse you are thinking about.

In actual fact some of the opinions in here (like yours) are harder to deal with than the original problem.


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Here are a couple of questions for you.

1. If you received the first scam call today, knowing what you know now, would you wind them up?

2. Would you call the police?

So my guess is that you would not wind them up because you know what you know now. So the second one is, if you don't wind them up, do you report them to the police? My guess and it really is just my own feeling on this is that you would not.

So all this talk of cowards and idiots etc is just as silly as the initial reaction to try to have some fun for yourself. Most people who have commented on here think you have brought this on yourself. Whilst that is probably true you now have an additional problem to sort out. How to stop the malicious calls from continuing. As I see it here are your choices.

1. Call the police. The calls will continue in all likelihood but you would of done your civil duty.

2. Call BT and ask them to block the calls. They might be able to do that but how many numbers need blocking? This might take some time.

3. Do nothing. The calls will eventually stop when they get bored.

4. Change your phone number

5. Don't answer the phone.

There are loads of things you can do now so do let us know which action you take.

Good luck sorting it.

 

[shadesofblue]

If it was your intention to be offensive then congratulations. You have succeeded!

I asked for opinions. I did not mention not being able to deal with it myself and I did not cause my wife distress. That would be the guy dealing out the abuse you are thinking about.

In actual fact some of the opinions in here (like yours) are harder to deal with than the original problem.


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It wasn't my intention to offer offence but the fact you find my opinion hard to deal with is a prime example of why I consider you to have got out your depth.

I think the above post by Simon-M brings clarity to the matter and certainly conveys what my thoughts far more eloquently that I ever could

Best of luck with it all.

 

[bdw]

It wasn't my intention to offer offence but the fact you find my opinion hard to deal with is a prime example of why I consider you to have got out your depth. .

You need to go back to your psychology teacher.

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[mobyme]

Here are a couple of questions for you.

1. If you received the first scam call today, knowing what you know now, would you wind them up?

2. Would you call the police?

So my guess is that you would not wind them up because you know what you know now. So the second one is, if you don't wind them up, do you report them to the police? My guess and it really is just my own feeling on this is that you would not.

So all this talk of cowards and idiots etc is just as silly as the initial reaction to try to have some fun for yourself. Most people who have commented on here think you have brought this on yourself. Whilst that is probably true you now have an additional problem to sort out. How to stop the malicious calls from continuing. As I see it here are your choices.

1. Call the police. The calls will continue in all likelihood but you would of done your civil duty.

2. Call BT and ask them to block the calls. They might be able to do that but how many numbers need blocking? This might take some time.

3. Do nothing. The calls will eventually stop when they get bored.

4. Change your phone number

5. Don't answer the phone.

There are loads of things you can do now so do let us know which action you take.

Good luck sorting it.

Virtually all of the above with the exception of reporting it to the Police are ridiculous notions. His telephone number is long standing and vital to his business; are you really suggesting that some scumbag criminal should be allowed to affect his ability to make a living because he was mildly offensive to him? He is not the criminal here, that title belongs to the slimebag that was trying to rob him.
He should report the matter to the Police and if they do not do something about it or refuse to act, we as a community should demand to know why.
I'm getting the feeling that many of the posters in this thread if they caught someone trying to break into their car wouldn't call the Police or try to apprehend him but are more likely to tell the perpatrator to try his neighbour's car, because he always leaves it open and even if he does catch you he's an old man and wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
If we turn a blind eye to crime or refuse to act against it, we conspire to condone it.

 

[Iranda]

Sometimes i wonder if this is just a mindset....if there is a problem we expect the system to provide a solution....a system can help us just that far, beyond that we have to find our own solutions

 

[mobyme]

Sometimes i wonder if this is just a mindset....if there is a problem we expect the system to provide a solution....a system can help us just that far, beyond that we have to find our own solutions

Yes it's a mindset that says; if it isn't happening to me, it's acceptable.

 

[Iranda]

On a more practical note...if the call is from Asia, chances are it is from India or China...in the current economic scenario, the 'system' is more likely to look away than go meddling

 

[allsquare]

the 'system' is more likely to look away than go meddling

But how do you know that before even giving the police a chance to sort it out?

 

[Simon-M]

Virtually all of the above with the exception of reporting it to the Police are ridiculous notions. His telephone number is long standing and vital to his business; are you really suggesting that some scumbag criminal should be allowed to affect his ability to make a living because he was mildly offensive to him? He is not the criminal here, that title belongs to the slimebag that was trying to rob him.
He should report the matter to the Police and if they do not do something about it or refuse to act, we as a community should demand to know why.
I'm getting the feeling that many of the posters in this thread if they caught someone trying to break into their car wouldn't call the Police or try to apprehend him but are more likely to tell the perpatrator to try his neighbour's car, because he always leaves it open and even if he does catch you he's an old man and wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
If we turn a blind eye to crime or refuse to act against it, we conspire to condone it.

This really is like saying... if you see a rabid dog in the street, do you try to poke it with a stick or do try to capture it? Your analogy is so far from reality.

We are talking about a guy who wound up a conman on the blower. Not a rapist or a murderer or robber. I think the OP needs to do whatever he needs to do and learn from it.

He has already spent so much energy on this! (NEEDLESSLY!!!!!)

 

[OldWelshGuy]

It really isn't a nice thing to happen, and the main issue now is dealing with this in as painless a way as possible.

I would personally sit down and draft out possible actions,and their possible outcomes, I would then go with the course of action that got me the outcome i wanted.

It is so easy to take the wrong course of action out of sheer need for retirbution and justice, rather than to achieve what WE want out of the situation.

If the police get involved, and if this results in them being approached, then what would the likely outcome be for you, your family and your business?

 

[Iranda]

But how do you know that before even giving the police a chance to sort it out?

There are international treaties for dealing with criminals...i doubt there are for dealing with unpleasant calls from across countries...personally i would ignore the caller till he wears out...you recognize the voice put the phone down! The caller is unlikely to come over to Britian to carry out his threat!

 

[bdw]

We are talking about a guy who wound up a conman on the blower. Not a rapist or a murderer or robber. I think the OP needs to do whatever he needs to do and learn from it.

He has already spent so much energy on this! (NEEDLESSLY!!!!!)

So had I fallen for his spiel and he had emptied my bank account he would not have been a robber and all of the people worldwide who have fallen for it already have not been robbed?

We need to get real folks!

With regard to my time, energy and my state of mind, thank you for all your concern but trust me, I can deal with it.

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[Iranda]

Yes it's a mindset that says; if it isn't happening to me, it's acceptable.

Not at all....there is no such thing as a smooth road..its just that we have to deal with the roadblocks our own way!

 

It really isn't a nice thing to happen, and the main issue now is dealing with this in as painless a way as possible.

I would personally sit down and draft out possible actions,and their possible outcomes, I would then go with the course of action that got me the outcome i wanted.

It is so easy to take the wrong course of action out of sheer need for retirbution and justice, rather than to achieve what WE want out of the situation.

If the police get involved, and if this results in them being approached, then what would the likely outcome be for you, your family and your business?

Quite agree .

How much effort and time do you wish to spend on what so far would seem like abusive phone calls.

By all means report it to the police but these things have a habit of dragging on for yonks and the emotional drain can be quite considerable.

No doubt this individual is a scumbag crook.

But if I fought every person that had been rude or abusive to me over my lifetime I would be a very busy boy.

If on the other hand real damage or harm had been done to myself .Then I would seek retribution big time.

 

[Esk247]

if it has become an issue and is beyond a mere prank then you report it to the Police. Don't expect a positive response other than maybe a crime number but still, the Police here have said that it is best to report malicious calls and anti-social behavior.

Even if they cannot do anything about it now, at the end of the year they can go to their annual meeting and say there was an increase in this type of behavior, therefore we need money to sort the problem out.

I always report the feral children who walk around town most Fridays smashing wing mirrors off cars and letting tyres down. I know the Police don't have the resources to respond all the time but it goes down as another note to bring up at their meetings, eventually, they will get the money to do something about it. If it isn't reported though, they'll never be able to sort it.

 

[mobyme]

This really is like saying... if you see a rabid dog in the street, do you try to poke it with a stick or do try to capture it? Your analogy is so far from reality.

We are talking about a guy who wound up a conman on the blower. Not a rapist or a murderer or robber. I think the OP needs to do whatever he needs to do and learn from it.

He has already spent so much energy on this! (NEEDLESSLY!!!!!)

Take your own analogy a little further. You ignore the rabid dog and it bites a child; my, I bet you feel good about yourself then. Personally I would call the Police but would have shot it long before they arrived. We are not talking about a conman, we are talking about a thief who would have returned time and time again because that's they way they work. The OP is not in the wrong here, it's the apathetic society that accepts people telephoning to scam people as an acceptable and normal way of life.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Reporting this to the police will not (or is highly unlikel;y) to result in the conman continuing with his actions. The police are not interested, this is what i was talkign about when I said about outcomes.

Report it by all means but the outcome from that should be to accept that you have reported it.

 

[Psl]

OP, or any others,may want to look at this site, http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud