Shocker: Google Crome Owns the Copyright to Everything You Post.

[An Oasis]

Guess I will not be downing loading their newest browser.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/

 

[OldWelshGuy]

I picked up on that when I was downloading it. hence my immediately binning it. Do no eveil my backside!

 

[An Oasis]

Do no eveil my backside!

Is that a song?

 

[OldWelshGuy]

No it was an offered up prayer. I had a kebab for lunch and a curry for dinner

 

[nass]

Some interesting thoughts about this whole Google owning everything you write here. I'm no lawyer so I wouldn't know what exactly this means, but there do seem to be buts and ifs in there. Perhaps they just need to make it a little more obvious what their intention is here because surely it's fairly common sense that all content made through there isn't something they could reasonably claim

 

[glencooley.com]

Google is not going to be held accountable for the hundreds of 1000's of chrome users. Read point 9 and you will see its only applicable to distribution and promotion.

Not being funny they read are emails and serve ads, the see our searches and serve ads, the own all of our google docs........

If you are that worried about what they own and you publish on the web.......think twice before publishing it.

 

[An Oasis]

No it was an offered up prayer. I had a kebab for lunch and a curry for dinner

Hopefully no meetings with clients afterwards.

 

[noidea]

Google have a large amount of goodwill amongst beginner and otherwise ignorant people.

I think generally no one cares about disclosing what you search for in google but reporting and otherwise owning what you post stretches the boundaries.

 

[An Oasis]

And there's yet more fun but not just from the big G, enjoy maybe I should have posted in the legal section.

http://valleywag.com/5044902/the-5-most-laughable-terms-of-service

 

[noidea]

Guess I will not be downing loading their newest browser.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/

I thought Google supported Firefox...

Wonder how much the American government is paying Google for the privilege of sharing the data. Of course they are not doing it to steal copyright but the terms is so they can intercept data you post on forums etc. and receive a copy of the pages you view.

 

[nass]

Matt has responded in more detail, we can all chill now . I must admit it's a little bit surreal. I posted a comment to his blog suggesting he reply about this particular ToS point, I drive home and Matt had replied, although I thought a bit flippantly. Then I posted another comment pointing out I didn't post anonymously, and perhaps he should pop a mail to his lawyers and see if they can reword it to clarify, I go and watch some telly and 1 hr later I see a post saying he's planing to do exactly that. Maybe I was just one of a billion people posting that but hey, gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling .

 

[An Oasis]

I thought Google supported Firefox...

They do, I think that they extended their funding for the project for the next 2-3 years.

 

[noidea]

They do, I think that they extended their funding for the project for the next 2-3 years.

Yet decides to create its own browser to compete... hmm...

 

[achilles]

This is what the current version of the Chrome EULA reads;

11. Content licence from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services.

Case closed?

 

[noidea]

This is what the current version of the Chrome EULA reads;


Case closed?

Does the EULA say about sharing browsing sessions or data with third parties?

 

[achilles]

Dunno, why not check it out - I'm off to get some shut-eye.

 

[An Oasis]

Oh dear and it gets worse. This makes usage on business based machines a complete no go.

http://milw0rm.com/exploits/6355

 

[achilles]

More on the security problem here.

 

[noidea]

More on the security problem here.

Oh dear - people moan at IE being insecure, but I don't recall an exploit being found so quickly... I am sure there are many more to follow...

 

[glencooley.com]

I am personally glad that there is more browser competition but I still stick by the fact that its a new app and as such will be vulnerable to the script kiddies, hell IE and FF have had years of practice and and every other week something pops up.

So as with all software I will wait for SP1 or SP2 before making a jump and joining the hype.........

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=605088&postcount=54

 

[JonathonV]

These are search engine kings, suddenly going off and doing something completely new to them. It's no surprise that it has security problems because they have stepped out of their comfort zone.

 

[noidea]

These are search engine kings, suddenly going off and doing something completely new to them. It's no surprise that it has security problems because they have stepped out of their comfort zone.

They should focus on removing the SPAM from their SERPs... lol

 

[glencooley.com]

These are search engine kings, suddenly going off and doing something completely new to them. It's no surprise that it has security problems because they have stepped out of their comfort zone.

Thats not really true. Google built its own network software, has built is own from scratch database software. Neither of these are small undertakings. So a browser should be easy. That said not one browser out there is totally safe.

 

[Gord]

Confirmation that the EULA is being changed.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/update-to-google-chromes-terms-of.htmlretain

11 Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.
And that's all. Period. End of section.

 

[noidea]

Thats not really true. Google built its own network software, has built is own from scratch database software. Neither of these are small undertakings. So a browser should be easy. That said not one browser out there is totally safe.

Didn't Google get accused of stealing code... or was that another search engine?

 

[Kneoteric_eSolutions]

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services…You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license."

Extract from the TOS.

 

[glencooley.com]

"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services…You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license."

Extract from the TOS.

The TOS has been updated and the new TOS applies retrospectively as well.

 

[glencooley.com]

Didn't Google get accused of stealing code... or was that another search engine?

Never heard that.? Everything I read seemed to point at them building it from scratch (network os & big table)

 

[MattyB]

It is a good browser though, I'm loving the ability to separate apps out, such as google calendar. In fact this is written in chrome, that means that google now owns this post as well as the air you breath.

 

[noidea]

Never heard that.? Everything I read seemed to point at them building it from scratch (network os & big table)

Maybe I have my wires crossed. I think it was orkut (their social networking site) NOT the search engine!!

 

[MattyB]

Google Chromes stats are roving positive so far according to stat counter.
http://blog.statcounter.com/2008/09/chrome-latest-stats-globalusuk/
Chrome has already secured a 1% usage of the stats market both in the Uk and the US. Not bad for a browser thats been launched for only a few weeks and isnt quite finished yet.


Matt Cutts (Googles web mouth piece) reckons the whole saga with the Terms of Service was just one big mistake.
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-license-agreement/
Apparently the Terms of Service was still in beta too, like the software - May we should give them the benifit of the doubt, I mean, how could a little snippet like that get past 100 or so google lawyers?

 

[noidea]

Google Chromes stats are roving positive so far according to stat counter.
http://blog.statcounter.com/2008/09/chrome-latest-stats-globalusuk/
Chrome has already secured a 1% usage of the stats market both in the Uk and the US. Not bad for a browser thats been launched for only a few weeks and isnt quite finished yet.


Matt Cutts (Googles web mouth piece) reckons the whole saga with the Terms of Service was just one big mistake.
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-license-agreement/
Apparently the Terms of Service was still in beta too, like the software - May we should give them the benifit of the doubt, I mean, how could a little snippet like that get past 100 or so google lawyers?

I don't quite believe it but did you notice the % usage is coming down... that means people have tried it but not liked it enough to continue using it...

 

[MattyB]

I suppose the first set of figures where because of the wow, it's shiny and new factor