SEO Specialist Needed

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genuinegraphics

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    Hi All!

    Hope you are all doing ok.

    I am looking for a SEO Specialist :D (if that's what you call them)

    It's not a job that I need but some of you may have read my post in the general business section http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=161077

    but in short to save you from reading the whole thing I am currently trying to help other businesses and also myself to get more sales (whether they need it or not but i'm sure they won't say no :p)

    I will do this by using the company as my SEO people for my customers. For example, I would approach someone and ask whether they need more advertising etc and if they say yes then the company that I choose I will get them to do the job however, I will pay for it which is why I am looking for someone that can do it at trade prices so I can then sell it for the normal price that they charge (kind of like a comission thing ;))

    I currently have a website designing company join me in this so I coild possibly offer a package to the customers for a website and also SEO on to for as low as I can get it to be.

    I'm not the kind of person who likes saying no straight up to people so hopefully if you offer other services then I may consider that and use someone else as SEO. However, you must provide some evidence of your past work (if that's possible) because I will choose a strong professional company that can give their customer service and will deal with problems without playing around with the customer.

    So if anyone is interested them please do hesitate to PM me or e-mail me at [email protected]

    Thank you :)

    Hope to speak to you soon!
     
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    genuinegraphics said:
    I know I may have confused some in this lol sorry I just didn't want people asking what do they do and exactly what is this?

    But yeah i've been in biz for about just over a year now
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    Was getting the impression you may have confused yourself in the first post.
    Using freelance people is a good idea as it keeps overheads down. It does, however, cut into your margins when you do get the work.
     
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    Stretchy said:
    Was getting the impression you may have confused yourself in the first post.
    Using freelance people is a good idea as it keeps overheads down. It does, however, cut into your margins when you do get the work.
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    Yeah I think I did (not good at explaining things :rolleyes: sorry) but true point I just like the idea of joining a business and both using each other to help others. So thought i'de give it a try and see how it turns out.

    I am looking for others to such as programmers, printers etc but i'll see how much actually want to take part then the ones that do i'll just carry on with them since there's nothing to loose from (or is there?)
     
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    genuinegraphics said:
    Yeah I think I did (not good at explaining things :rolleyes: sorry) but true point I just like the idea of joining a business and both using each other to help others. So thought i'de give it a try and see how it turns out.

    I am looking for others to such as programmers, printers etc but i'll see how much actually want to take part then the ones that do i'll just carry on with them since there's nothing to loose from (or is there?)
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    If you do it right its a good way to run a business. Can be harder to be competitive though as you will be paying freelance rates and then looking to put your cut on top. Its all very well asking for a trade rate, but any freelancer who's any good will have a rate, and will have no reason to go lower. Why would they, if they can get enough 'full rate' work.

    Good luck with it.
     
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    jump said:
    I am looking for others to such as programmers, printers etc but i'll see how much actually want to take part then the ones that do i'll just carry on with them since there's nothing to loose from

    i agree with you
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    Thanks :) I have had a few, so far so good. I've got a website designer who does flash websites etc and just got in contact with an SEO company who was interested in doing this. Even if I don't get a whole team of what I need at the moment I can always do it later when I get more established :D...hopefully lol
     
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    genuinegraphics said:
    So in your opinion what's a good idea for this then?
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    No "seo specialist" is going to need your offer imho, as if they are any good that will be busy with their own projects and not got enough time to take on more.

    Any of the above will also not offer "trade prices" asn their services are in demand and would rather raise their prices than reduce them to make you a quick buck.

    I use freelancers for work I cannot do and I pay them their going rate and don't expect them to charge me less than they would charge someone else, I recommend guys I have worked with / seen their work rather than how much kickback I can get off the guys.
    What if the guy who offers the best prices for you with a huge kickback is crap at what they do, you will get the bad press for "recommeding them".

    Also no seo will have a set pricing structure they can say, "I charge 5000 for xxx" as every site project is different and will be different prices.

    How about getting recommendations for guys and sending clients to them directly, rather than trying to make money from something that might come back and kick you in the nuts?
     
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    If you can't be bothered then don't bother to make a post..I didn't ask for your opinions on whether you like it or not. Either way my choice is my choice I do what I want to do. I've already got someone for SEO so don't need it anymore.

    'I Hate SEO' then why bother to reply to people in this section. If you don't like it then that's your problem. Don't start putting everyone else off from your bad experience with it. I couldn't care less what you say because I won't take it in i'll just listen to the ones that actually want to help others.

    @faevilangel thanks for the advice. True point i've got someone who's done this with others to so just got to see how it's done then i'll take it from there. If it turns out bad then i'll just scrap it if it's going good then i'll carry but i'll always go through with the business who wants to take part and see whether they are any good or not.
     
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    :D Im actuallly doing quite well at it thankyou ;)


    For one your customers are not going to know much about seo as not many people do. You yourself probably dont know a gret deal. You are going to be the middle man inbetween the seo and the customer. Seo isnt straight forward and you dont see instant reults. I hope you are going to be able to discuss that at great length with your customers.

    as gareth says

    "No "seo specialist" is going to need your offer imho, as if they are any good that will be busy with their own projects and not got enough time to take on more.

    Any of the above will also not offer "trade prices" asn their services are in demand and would rather raise their prices than reduce them to make you a quick buck.    "

    If the person you have found is willing to work cheaper so you can squeeze a little on top then he can't be that good really can he.

    What you would be better doing is working off a commission, every new customer you find him you get 5% or something. Either way its nothing to get too excited about because you arent gonna make a great deal from it.
     
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    MASSEY said:
    If the person you have found is willing to work cheaper so you can squeeze a little on top then he can't be that good really can he.


    Incorrect - and I am not sure of your logic.

    A lot of people would be willing to work a little bit cheaper if there was regular work coming in ( less advertising for them and the reduced figures would be based on volume

    Also, I know tons on first class tradesman, really skilled as what they do but they have very little work in the pipeline and have to reduce their prices and work for others to earn some kind of living.

    Being skilled at something doesnt neccesary make you a good salesperson or good at business

    "No "seo specialist" is going to need your offer imho, as if they are any good that will be busy with their own projects and not got enough time to take on more.

    Well, if they were smart in business why would they turn the work away?

    Why not train an employee in the basics, oversee it and take on as may of these regular comissions as possible, minimal advertising and you know every time the phone rings its worth £££ to you.

    Tommy



    Being skilled at something doesnt neccesary make you a good salesperson or good at business.

    Tommy
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    Tw Installations said:
    MASSEY said:
    Being skilled at something doesnt neccesary make you a good salesperson or good at business.

    Tommy
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    I quite agree i know loads of people who are good at what they do but are not good salesmen.

    Thing with seo is there appears to be lots of scams going on and it has got a bit of a bad name. If i was dealing with some one in regards to seo and they didnt seem to be able to answer questions or always had to check with third party i wouldn't be very impressed.

    which is why i would of thought it better to find the seo work and work on commission. I would not like to be the middle man seo-customer unless i had a very good knowledge myself you will come accross as very incompetent.
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    Yeah as in that's what I meant..they could either put th price down or something or if they don't agree then I could work off comission..

    I said to put the price down as for some trades (like printing) they would actually put their price down to trade prices in order for a business to use them as their regular printers but for SEO you people would know more than me so i'll most probably take the comission route for that.
     
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    As someone else pointed out the way to go on this is to have a network of trusted and tested referral partners who refer work to each other. IF you are going to be the front man and outsource you need to have very good relationships with your clients, project management skills and a good knowledge of the work you are taking on.
     
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    As an SEO I would be amenable to such an arrangement, depending on exactly what the relationship was... However I have been approached by two people in the last few weeks with ideas along similar lines and to date they haven't come to anything... As such, I suspect there is a fault in the plan somewhere :)

    As for promoting only people you know and trust, if you don't know anyone and want to build a circle of associates you have to start somewhere. A trial period will establish if an individual can perform...

    Massey, I have respect that you have taken the trouble to learn and do your own SEO, but I wonder if you've ever sat down and worked out the true cost of that 'free' SEO. You are tending to come across as the learner driver who has just passed their test and tries to instruct more experienced drivers in how they should drive... :)
     
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    Flash websites can be optimised but with limited results. i did a company call tasso autogass for "LPG london" "LPG conversions london"

    There is two ways to do it, translated HTML pages or a code added which list the content.
    The first is the one i would choose but i wouldn't recommend flash website in the first place
     
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    i'm sure I posted something on here earlier it was quite long too :| ohman I gotta right it out again :p

    right long story short as I can't remember everything I said.

    I will be using the website designers for any website designing job. If the client wants a Flash but NO SEO job done then I will let the designer do it. However, if they do want SEO along with the project then I will take your advice as I have heard it elsewhere too and advise the client not to have a flash website (if they ask for one)

    I will do it week by week so i've given myself a time for this week to make a decision for which SEO company I want to choose however, as mentioned before I will give everyone a chance using the Trial Period method and see which company can produce the best results.

    but thanks very much for the replies and advice people. I really appreciate it :) Thanks again!
     
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