SEO Question Please

[Daniel Jones]

I know that for business with a physical address - including your address on every web page and registering with all the yelps and google places (business directories) out there helps with SEO and pulls in more local traffic. My question is does this apply to websites that have no physical address?

Thanks in advance

 

[Ali-v-8]

You can have the website geo targeted or locally targeted.

 

[smbchamp]

You can choose country level TLD so that search engines can decide on local ranking

 

[Ali-v-8]

but what if he wishes to expand into another town. town in tld may become a negative.

 

[nitro23456]

He means .co.uk for example

 

[smbchamp]

Register .com, .net, .org and any Country specific tld like .uk or .co.uk. In case you move out from UK, you can change the web address to .com or another country TLD. You can now change sites easily from google webmaster tools

 

[Daniel Jones]

I really appreciate the quick responses. The site is a British registered company with a .com address hosted on a US server. We do work from a small office space in the UK but the website is intended to draw an international following.

I really appreciate the advice. I'm just reading up on geotargeting now.

So if I have this right - listing a physical address is not the best option? Register all TLD's, and choose geotargeting over local targeting?

Really appreciate your patience guys and have a great weekend

 

[smbchamp]

I really appreciate the quick responses. The site is a British registered company with a .com address hosted on a US server. We do work from a small office space in the UK but the website is intended to draw an international following.

I really appreciate the advice. I'm just reading up on geotargeting now.

So if I have this right - listing a physical address is not the best option? Register all TLD's, and choose geotargeting over local targeting?

Really appreciate your patience guys and have a great weekend

Choose a domain extension and stick with it. If you choose .com then be it. Redirect the rest of the domains to the main domain. Never build different sites on these domains nor have the same website hosted on all of them. just do a redirect to the main site

 

[nitro23456]

Never build different sites on these domains nor have the same website hosted on all of them.

nothing wrong with something original on each site with a link back to the main site. If anything it would help as long asthey are all unique.

 

[smbchamp]

nothing wrong with something original on each site with a link back to the main site. If anything it would help as long asthey are all unique.

That according to normal standards is not bad. but if you are looking for traffic from search engines, then Google and other major players will see that as a sneaky tactic and penalize you. However if your traffic is mainly type in or word of mount, you need not care about that

 

[MASSEY]

They do not penal you. They just do not count the links .

 

[smbchamp]

They do not penal you. They just do not count the links .

Please do not provide false information. When they see identical content/ even unique content on different website but hosted by the same person (Can make out from various factors ranging from domain registering information, site design etc) and they all link to the homepage, it just considers the tactic black hat, one that is set up to game the system.

Have you ever heard of link wheels or profile links or whatever you can name them? Ultimately it will get you banned and even when you do with your own sites, you will end up with a penalty.

 

[nitro23456]

That according to normal standards is not bad. but if you are looking for traffic from search engines, then Google and other major players will see that as a sneaky tactic and penalize you. However if your traffic is mainly type in or word of mount, you need not care about that

They will not penalise you at all for doing that as they will essentially be completely different sites. It will actually help if you buy different keyword domains, create unique sites on each and link back to the main .co.uk/.com

If most of someones traffic is 'type-in' I suspect they are not getting very much traffic fullstop assuming it is an everyday mans website and not somehthing like facebook.

They certainly wont penal you, knob you or even willy you as Massey said

 

[smbchamp]

It will actually help if you buy different keyword domains, create unique sites on each and link back to the main .co.uk/.com

Note that we are taking about the different extensions of the same domain name here. Like mycompany.com, my company.org, mycompany.net etc. Its not keyword1.com, keyword2.org etc

 

[nitro23456]

you were. I wasnt.

 

[MASSEY]

Note that we are taking about the different extensions of the same domain name here. Like mycompany.com, my company.org, mycompany.net etc. Its not keyword1.com, keyword2.org etc

I suggest you spend sometime reading the threads on this forum, without being rude you are kinda lacking basic knowledge here

 

[smbchamp]

Ok.. OK.... So you are suggesting that Google will not penalize you and will only discard those links? Then what is the purpose of building such sites anyways if Google discounts them?

Not being rude.. Nor am I lacking any basic knowledge.. But it's a well known fact in the SEO industry that techniques like these will get you into trouble.

There is not much searching the forums here as this is not a SEO forum and most SEO advices given out here are pretty much wrong.

Anyway ending the discussion here. To the OP. please use your brains and do a bit more Googling on this issue and you will come to know the definite answer.

Thanks

 

[nitro23456]

Just to expand slightly..... Google is well aware that some sites are hosted on the same IP as 'bad' sites and doesn't/won't penalise them because of it..... shared hosting etc exists and is part of the fabric of the internet.

There is a nice Matt Cutts video on youtube that explains this very point. So the notion that google penalises sites from the same IP is false.

 

[smbchamp]

where did I say IP? It's not about IP. Google being a domain registrar themselves can see through your domain registration details even if you have registered privately. When they see the same details on all the domains, it does not take rocket science algorithm to understand they all belong to the same person.

 

[nitro23456]

I wasn't talking to you, I was adding information to the thread, I started disregarding what you were writing on the first page. None of what I have written was arguing with you or directed at you.

 

[smbchamp]

I wasn't talking to you, I was adding information to the thread, I started disregarding what you were writing on the first page. None of what I have written was arguing with you or directed at you.

No offence. But I was staying within the scope of the thread. That is why I thought you were hinting at me. What you said is correct. But one more thing is there. Did you know that for the first 3 months your site is hosted with a shared host and shared IP, the links you build will go to the parent domain? This is more technical as it is the issue with virtual IP hosting

 

[MASSEY]

You dont get penal'd. Honestly. How can they penal you.

If i have site A and i link to site A with B, C, D, E as long as BCDE are slightly search engine loved then they will give good benefit to site A.

If you link all over the place between sites abcde then it just looks like link exchange and that makes the links worthless pretty much.

Google dont go "dear me look at this , we better drop his site 10 places" they just ignore the value that they could of had if you had linked correctly in the first place.

 

[smbchamp]

You dont get penal'd. Honestly. How can they penal you.

If i have site A and i link to site A with B, C, D, E as long as BCDE are slightly search engine loved then they will give good benefit to site A.

If you link all over the place between sites abcde then it just looks like link exchange and that makes the links worthless pretty much.

Google dont go "dear me look at this , we better drop his site 10 places" they just ignore the value that they could of had if you had linked correctly in the first place.

I am not interested in arguing any further. I am not sure where you got this idea. Maybe theory? SEO is way beyond theory.

What do you mean by search engine loved? I guess you are a beginner in SEO. Please try to be updated in the SEO industry before you give out advice.

 

[MASSEY]

I am not interested in arguing any further. I am not sure where you got this idea. Maybe theory? SEO is way beyond theory.

What do you mean by search engine loved? I guess you are a beginner in SEO. Please try to be updated in the SEO industry before you give out advice.

Haha thats funny.

I seriously hope you dont charge for seo service

 

[smbchamp]

Haha thats funny.

I seriously hope you dont charge for seo service

So you are the SEO expert here I suppose. But i see your site on your sig ranks only 48th for the term "birmingham plumbers" in google.co.uk and 248 on google.com

Enough with arguing. I will not reply to this thread anymore until the Op requires any clarification

 

[nitro23456]

massey is right, if it was so easy to get penalised everyone would be doing this to their competitors sites.

 

[smbchamp]

massey is right, if it was so easy to get penalised everyone would be doing this to their competitors sites.

That is a long debated theory. however in my tests I have found it to be true only for established sites. If you have a site well under 1 year then you can easily get penalized. Maybe Google assumes that small website owners are always guilty no matter what. Show me a site that is less than 1 year old and I will guarantee that I can get it off the rankings in Google in a few days.

 

[MASSEY]

What does the rank of the plumbing site have to do with anything, im not an seo, but lets just say i know quite a bit .

Anyway, i hate to say that your test is a pretty irrelevant test because you can not get penal'd.

 

[smbchamp]

What does the rank of the plumbing site have to do with anything, im not an seo, but lets just say i know quite a bit .

Anyway, i hate to say that your test is a pretty irrelevant test because you can not get penal'd.

There you said it. You are not an SEO, you just know bit's and pieces of it. Apart from my SPA business I am an online SEO consultant as well. So I am upto date with all the algorithms and I do testing quiet often. If you dont believe what I say, just do a split test with your own domain and see how it plummets in the rankings.

 

[MASSEY]

There you said it. You are not an SEO, you just know bit's and pieces of it. Apart from my SPA business I am an online SEO consultant as well. So I am upto date with all the algorithms and I do testing quiet often. If you dont believe what I say, just do a split test with your own domain and see how it plummets in the rankings.

Ah i see, so your test must be right then, silly me i know nothing

 

[Daniel Jones]

I really appreciate the answers but am sorry if it has led to a bit of tension in the ranks. I am truly impressed with the speed and concern shown to a noob on his first post though. Please don't fall out over my stupidity however

 

[Ali-v-8]

One: massey - well explained.
two: daniel jones - i hope you got your answer.
three: sbmchamps -- Massey explaind a "theory" that I agree with. Your attempt to put him down is not very nice. he tried to explain as clearly as possible and in my opinion did a good job. Since i have only read a few of your post and massey had to correct you then i dont really think you should call your self an expert and consider yourself better than him.

so as an "expert on seo" i will alliterate what massey already explained to YOU out of the goodness of his heart.. you dont get penalised. they just get ignored.