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Just need to ask a few questions the first question is why does my website show www.mybusinessname.co.uk and in other places shows as mybusinessname.co.uk without the www.

Also my website has been indexed by Google, Bing and Yahoo, my website is not in the top 100 for my keywords in Google and i am not sure why, but in Bing and Yahoo I am in the top 3 for all my keywords.

This has me very worried that I am not listed in top 100 ahhhhhhh.
 
No need to panic.

Can't go into specifics as that would be a site review, but safe to say sites get indexed under www. and non www. because there are backlinks pointing to the site. most people will add www. in front of a domain name regardless, which is why it is best practice to use that version as the base domain name.

You can sort this out by adding a bit of code to the HTACCESS that redirects the www. version to the non www. version (if it was the case that this is the version you are using as a base url for your site, and the one that Google has indexed most pages under. )

Also the other two engines don't reply on the same degree of complexity that Google does, i.e. Google make it harder to rank than the others, but it is mainly backlinks/citations that make the difference. If you are ranking well in binghoo then get some backlinks and you should be good to go on Google (By Backlinks I am talking about a good spread of social links citations etc as well as other links).
 
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Just need to ask a few questions the first question is why does my website show www.mybusinessname.co.uk and in other places shows as mybusinessname.co.uk without the www.

Also my website has been indexed by Google, Bing and Yahoo, my website is not in the top 100 for my keywords in Google and i am not sure why, but in Bing and Yahoo I am in the top 3 for all my keywords.

This has me very worried that I am not listed in top 100 ahhhhhhh.

In addition to James htaccess redirect...for Google, before you do this VERIFY BOTH domain variants in GWT and then set your preferred domain in GWT to www.

Once done then apply your htaccess file.

HTH

Toodle pip.

Daren

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Lightningjack

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Pretty much what old welsh guy has said,if the site is wordpress go to general settings and addd www to the domain,wordpress defaults to the http://domainname.com preset.

If you're ranking in bing and yahoo(both use the same search engine pretty much) then you don't have alot of backlinks usually.Do not be suprised if you start building backlinks your bing ranking move around.

Bing and google use almost opposing metrics for ranking.
Maybe add your business to google places is it viable,I don't know your business etc so no idea if a listing will show but if it does go for it.
 
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Cheers guys this SEO is hard work and confusing lol but thank you, the website was built for me and is not in wordpress.
You mentioned backlinks how do I go about this I have added my site to a number of directories, Facebook, Twitter e.t.c, but these back links don't show when I did a search for back links for my site.
 
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As you are local you need to look at local search marketing, having a good local places Google+ listing, make sure you have a mobile friendly site might be an idea because if their laptop is broken they are likely to be on the phone looking for someone to fix it.

Regarding links, guest blogging is ideal for you, as are answer type sites
 
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As you are local you need to look at local search marketing, having a good local places Google+ listing, make sure you have a mobile friendly site might be an idea because if their laptop is broken they are likely to be on the phone looking for someone to fix it.

Regarding links, guest blogging is ideal for you, as are answer type sites

Thank you, my website had been set up for mobile viewing and just just looking for local SEO, I have a few domain names with keywords in them and i am going to crate a few static pages for these and change the content on them so google does not punish me lol
 
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you would be better off having them all on one site really, why have multiple domains? you are going to have to do x times more work for each site to get it ranking.

I have already got a few domains pointing to my main site and I suppose I could use the static website as a test as well to see what works and what does not from a seo point.

There will be a lot of content on the page so I am hoping this will help.
 
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having m,ultiple domains pointing to your site isn't a good idea as it could result in google indexing the site under multiple domain names, or breaking the site into multiple domains . If you are using multiple domains to point at the site, then use redirects to the target poage. It is of no use whatsoever for SEO purposes to have multiple domains pointing to pages within the site.

Using them for marketing is a different thing of course.
 
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Okay just a quick update, I have changed a few things on my website like better title, keywords etc, also stopped the other websites directing, and added a new site map, I am now ranking on page 2 and 3 for some of my best keywords.

not sure what it was down to but onwards and upwards.
 
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Okay just a quick update, I have changed a few things on my website like better title, keywords etc, also stopped the other websites directing, and added a new site map, I am now ranking on page 2 and 3 for some of my best keywords.

not sure what it was down to but onwards and upwards.

How many times has an SEO heard that I wonder. Yes traffic has gone up, yes sales have gone up, yes rankings have gone up, but how do i KNOW it is down to the SEO :p
 
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I don't work in SEO lol, it just goes to prove if you tweak your website it does work.

Yes but you've change your site, google has reindexed it, it may not rerank it for a few months. Also people seem to assume sites the where behind don't make changes, it's a clamber for position that fills the coffers of "SEO EXPERTS"
 
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Just a quick point to note here and this maybe useful also for people who have not yet purchased their domain you are MUCH better off not using your company name in your website address unless it specifically contains the keywords you want to get ranked for.

For example if you run a computer repair business called "Bobs PC Store" in Kuala Lumpur undertaking computer repairs you would be much better off with the domain www . computerrepairkualalumpur . com than you would be with the domain www . bobspcstore . com. The domain name counts a lot towards your Google ranking.
 
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bluefishcs

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have a read of that and talk to the people who got hit by EMD algo changes.

I see the proof that having the keywords in the domain makes a big difference, I noticed this when setting up my own site. For example if you search "Chichester PC Repair" in Google and this is a very competitive search (I know because it took months for me to get top) you will notice the 3rd rank site www . chichesterpcrepair . com is a template, no real content yet it ranks above good sites with real content.
 
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I see the proof that having the keywords in the domain makes a big difference, I noticed this when setting up my own site. For example if you search "Chichester PC Repair" in Google and this is a very competitive search (I know because it took months for me to get top) you will notice the 3rd rank site www . chichesterpcrepair . com is a template, no real content yet it ranks above good sites with real content.

But we must consider the bigger picture. People who need a pc repairing who live in Chichester will see the web address there in the SERPS and think "hey yes, that's precisely what I was looking for" and this will influence click throughs.
 
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But we must consider the bigger picture. People who need a pc repairing who live in Chichester will see the web address there in the SERPS and think "hey yes, that's precisely what I was looking for" and this will influence click throughs.

So your saying it's ranking higher because more people are clicking it or agreeing it's better to have keywords in the domain name?
 
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So your saying it's ranking higher because more people are clicking it or agreeing it's better to have keywords in the domain name?

I was referring to perception and click throughs (i.e. conversions).

It depends on your business goals. Does the business only ever intend to do business in the local area? Yes segments of your target market will click through if they see something familiar or something that relates to their search query (in your domain name) but there's also the title and meta description (unless text is scraped from the web page) to consider too as part of the mix. In terms of SEO there was the EMD update last year so there is no longer advantage and as OWG pointed out there might be a correlation between EMD sites and spammy exact match keyword anchor text backlinks, etc. I think a lot of them flagged up for a manual review. Now the general consensus is to build a majority of brand links so I'd say it's important to have your business name in the domain name. It makes it easier to protect as well don't you find?
 
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Oldwelsh guy is right,computerrepairwhereever.co.uk etc looks crap,create a brand.In all serious,if you're stuck hire someone for seo.

Would you click on harrods.co.uk or buyanexpensivediamondringinlondon.co.uk,it's that simple.Branding is seo,for high comp niches,rotation of domains is order of the day due to the techniques used,you're not there.
Please bear in mind,let's say you repair computers,you are skilled at that,it took you time didn't it to learn to troubleshoot,find strange solutions,jumper settings,and of course a new motherboard can be faulty.With seo it's the same,a skill,and likewise you learn shortcuts to success,but a beginner will not see these shortcuts.

Example Chichester PC Repair googles own keyword tool registers no searches,you THINK it is competitive because it took you months what an seo could do in less than a week.The emd ranked exactly because it was an emd there was no competition.To prove my point the emd has NO links.

Now I like this because so many people have been saying emd's have been devalued etc,not a chance it the seo work carried out.Every payday loan site in the top 5 will have a keyword in the domain,guaranteed.
Your example is a prime case in point,it took you months to outrank a site with no links.I'm not having a go,well done you've succeeded but do you see the point that sometimes it's better to get pros in.

Guess what,after all that I suggest you brand your local sites not keyword them.
 
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bluefishcs

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Oldwelsh guy is right,computerrepairwhereever.co.uk etc looks crap,create a brand.In all serious,if you're stuck hire someone for seo.

Would you click on harrods.co.uk or buyanexpensivediamondringinlondon.co.uk,it's that simple.Branding is seo,for high comp niches,rotation of domains is order of the day due to the techniques used,you're not there.

Harrods has a massive budget for brand advertising though so everyone knows the name before they do any search. I don't think most small local businesses would have the budget to market their business name enough so everyone in the area knows it. How much do people look at the URL in the search results now anyway, the first thing I notice is the title and description.
 
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Harrods has a massive budget for brand advertising though so everyone knows the name before they do any search. I don't think most small local businesses would have the budget to market their business name enough so everyone in the area knows it. How much do people look at the URL in the search results now anyway, the first thing I notice is the title and description.

And there it rests, a good title is crucial for the search engines, but it also has to attract the searcher. The description is going to help the searcher decide whether or not they click through, it should be descriptive and attractive. e.g. of a search for computer repairs chichester simulatedto illustrae the outcome





Computer repairs | top computer repair | laptop repairs
about us - contact us - our Services - laptops repairs - desktop repairs -
internet services - web design
computerrepairschichester.co.uk/computer-repairs

Computer Repairs and Laptop Repairs in Chichester and Sussex from Chichister Computers Ltd
Quality and fast service from your local Chichester Computer repair
company trading since 1999 and now covering the whole of Sussex
chichcomp.co.uk/computer-repairs





If they appeared in that order, which of the two listings above are you likely to click through on?

The first one has no accurate description or has the same description page wide and google has decided it is irrelevant, and has grabbed text from the page. As the navigation is near the top, and includes 'repairs' Google is showing this as a snippet.

Finally I would suggest that some are missing the point and possibly confusing 'domain' with 'URL' (another example sorry)

chichcomp.co.uk/computer-repair
chichcomp.co.uk/laptop-repair

Both of those will help in ranking, you have a branded domain, and you have a meaningful URL to encourage clicks. I have added them to the example of SERP above to illustrate.

Googlers talk about the URL while some SEO's talk about the domain, they are not the same thing, and you really can have your cake and eat it IMO.
 
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