Selling on other EU Marketplaces?

Lorna Franklin

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had any advice about expanding to other EU on line marketplaces other than EBay and Amazon. I was thinking of targeting the French marketplace in particular, through CDiscount and La Redoute. Has anyone had experience of these sites? We sell rugs on Ebay and Amazon at the minute to France, Spain, Italy, Germany and the US.
 

antropy

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    It is possible to sell a bucket load of product on Amazon websites. If that isn't working for you then I would have a look at your optimisation. In all honesty you aren't going to find better selling platforms out there amongst the 'wannabes'.

    That is a UK centric view

    They may be moving up there but different countries have different prefered channels
     
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    Jayser100

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    You may be correct to some extent, however this message and the other posted recently from this member about Amazon Germany being 'quiet' (which it certainly isn't) suggests to me that she might have a problem with the way she is presenting her products. I have sent her a PM and offered some help if she wants it. In the UK and Germany, Amazon simply must be the number one. In France, Spain and Italy it is true to say that Amazon still has a way to go.
     
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    There are a few good looking channels surfacing now, with cDiscount and Allegro being pulled to the forefront from my own point of view as our software provider will soon be offering these as integrated channels.

    To be fair, you can't really beat having your eBay listings shown internationally and opening up the Unified potential through your Amazon. But as Page correctly said above;

    different countries have different prefered channels

    cDiscount isn't just a French marketplace, they also operate in a number of countries including Brazil, Thailand and Columbia. Ordinarily I would have looked at those locations in the world and dismissed them because my organisation never really has orders from those parts of the world. And yet cDiscount operates a channel for those territories which would suggest that in some way there is a demand for online services. And the fact that we never get orders from those parts of the world would suggest that either we don't offer what they want or that they do not use eBay and Amazon.

    I have posted a fairly extensive (aka long :p) post on cDiscount which I'm not allowed to link to because of the link/post count limitation of the forum, but I have had all in all a fairly decent experience with cDiscount.

    I would say that expansion into Europe could start to be the future for a lot of UK based ecommerce companies. But I might go so far as to say that maybe even limiting to Europe might still be too small. Within Urban Trading, we have links to America, Canada and shortly Mexico through our single Amazon.com seller account. Three channels which cover a fairly large area of the planet and in my opinion hold huge potential. We are currently also looking into Amazon India which is another economy which is growing in leaps and bounds in terms of online sales.

    As always there are no easy answers. Only you know your circumstances and only you will know after you've done research whether a channel is viable for you. But expansion is rarely ever a bad thing if it's researched and done properly. For UK only Amazon sellers I would recommend opening up to Europe through the Unified Amazon accounts. These extra channels under the umbrella of the UK account don't, as far as I am aware, cost you anything more apart from the normal selling fees that Amazon have for UK. For UK only eBay sellers, start opening up some of your listings to Europe to gauge the market. This may include extra fees that your pricing may need to accommodate, but should be easily worked around. For anyone already in Europe with either eBay or Amazon, looking at channels external to Amazon and eBay is a definite option. As is expanding globally rather than staying in the confines of Europe. It all depends on your outlook; nothing ventured nothing gained? Or better safe than sorry? So far, for Urban Trading the risk has been rewarded and we are doing consistently ok. We could always hope for more, but it could most certainly be a lot, lot less.
     
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    Jayser100

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    That is a UK centric view

    They may be moving up there but different countries have different prefered channels

    I am not 'UK Centric.' I have trade accounts worldwide and I sell on ecommerce platforms in many countries. We sell as much on Amazon Germany as we do on Amazon UK. All I am saying is, Amazon and eBay are still street s ahead of anything else and if you spend hours putting optimised listings up on some small ecommerce site that happens to claim it's the number 1 in Argentina or whatever, because you aren't happy with your sales on Amazon and eBay, you should perhaps be looking at improving those instead. By way of example, CDiscount call potential new customers and claim they are the number 1 in France but that isn't true. Back in January when I looked into this, a modicum of research on the web proved that fact:

    ECommerce Site Visitor Stats July 21st 2014 - January 20th 2015 (French sites in bold)

    Website / Estimated visits:

    Amazon.com 1.184 billion
    eBay.com 757 million
    Amazon.co.uk 264.5 million
    eBay.co.uk 235.5 million
    Amazon.de 213 million
    ebay.de 147 million
    Amazon.fr 108 million
    Amazon.co.jp 105.5 million
    Amazon.it 64.1 million
    eBay.com.au 58.2 million
    Amazon.ca 54.7 million
    cDiscount 38 million
    eBay.fr 33.8 million

    Amazon.es 34.7 million
    Fnac.com 30.8 million
    Amazon.cn 14.5 million
    Bonanza.com 5.35 million
    eBid 530 thousand
    Ealtbay 7 thousand

    I am not saying you shouldn't sell on other platforms, indeed I have some products on CDiscount and eBid but if your prioritising the work you put into listings, you'd be naive to work on the smaller ones first when the bigger money to be made is on Amazon and eBay.

    With regard to France, I think Amazon is growing fast. My like-for-like sales have grown by 100% in the last twelve months on that platform and I haven't done any optimisation work there during that period, and the few new items listed have made little impact. CDiscount may have been number 1 in the past (the stats above suggest they are still ahead of eBay) but it certainly isn't true now.

    Incidentally, the stats compiled above were taken from www.similarweb.com

    I haven't checked since making that list in January and so it would be worth re-doing at some point. If anyone knows of other sites to add, by all means suggest them. At the time I was looking into listing on CDiscount and that's why the above list has a distinct French bias.
     
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