Scam alert

This is real and has actually happened to someone I know BEWARE

This one is pretty slick since they provide Y O U with all the information, except the one piece they want.
Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA &
MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.

One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "MasterCard".

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank) did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device
for £497.99 from a Marketing company based in London?" When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges rangefrom £297 to £497, just under the £500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting
a fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should callthe 0800 number listed on the back of your card (0800-VISA) and ask for Security.

You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works the
caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card." He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers." There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say, "No," the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do", and hangs up.You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISASecurity Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchaseof £497.99 was charged to our card.Long story - short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or MasterCard directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening
.Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By informing each other, we protect each other.
 
Never give out security answers to INCOMING calls. Ask them their name and department and telephone number then ring the number on the back of your card and ask to be put through to them.

You will then have to pass their security questions before you get through.

I always have a big go at them when they ring me and and ask me for those details as its a breach of security.
 
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Wiggy

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Their ingenuity knows no bounds. . .Amex customer services often call and ask me to prove I am me. . .I always tell them to write. . .

I once had a person in Postman uniform knock on the door and present me with a form on a clipboard. It looked real and the story was that an item belonging to me had been damaged in the post. I was supposed to fill this claim form out and they would send me my compensation.
It was 7am and pre-coffee so sadly, I was not at my sharpest. . .If I had been, I would have performed a citizen's arrest [walloped him with a hockey stick till he kept still]
As I was dopey, I read the form which was letterheaded and had my name and address printed on it but couldn't figure out what further information they could possibly need to send me a cheque. . .One of the boxes on the form was 'date of birth' . . .I told the guy that it didn't make sense and he should get somebody to call me on my mobile, I wrote the number on the top of the form and returned it to him blank.
Then I had a coffee and my brain woke up so I called my bank, "Yes sir, we sent you a new card out two weeks ago, have you not received it?" And the Royal Mail depot [on speed dial for us mail order companies] "No sir, we do not have a postie fitting that description at present but he sounds like one of the lads that was sacked for stealing recently and no we don't use any such forms for damaged mail compensation" And finally, the Police "Yes sir, we will advise patrols to look out for bogus Postmen"

Ever since, I have kept a stout stick by the front door and taught my Rhodesian Ridgeback that, "wait here while I find my glasses" means Kill!!

I live in hope that somebody will try this trick again. . . :mad:
 
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lockie

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Last year i had a row with a credit card provider after they rang me and just needed to confirm who i was before we could carry on. I refused to answer any questions until they proved who they were. The guy got really shirty with me over it too until i pointed out it was common advice never to divulge personal details to people you don't know. In the end i told them that if they needed to contact me it should be by post to prevent this situation occurring again.

Any card provider worth their salt will tell you to ring them back on the number on the back of the card to get through to them if you have concerns.

Im a very suspicious person anyway but recently it seems to be that im not the odd one out anymore as so many scammers,thieves and dodgy people are out there.
 
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