Replacement windows

[wood1e2]

Hi

Does anyone in this world, like to provide information on replacement windows?

I just had a guy on the phone looking to give me a quote. When I asked

Why do I need toughened glass?

Why is Triple Glazing not as good as advertised for noise reduction compared to double glazing?

Why is Triple Glazing not sold with a deeper frame, therefore would give better noise reduction than double glazing?

As I believe the space between glass gives the greater noise reduction? I may be wrong there.

Oh and being told it is a fad!! Well Sweden seems to like triple glazing, and Greek nightclubs do as well..for different reasons..ie noise!!

What percentage of gas is pumped into the double glazing, as I have heard that this is way of keeping costs down...sell double glazing with less gas!

Apart from not looking good, why is Secondary glazing no good...something from the 70's I was told!! Anyway the wife won't like secondary glazing even if the best solution to noise reduction!!

Anyway, before I got to the end of the first question, I was asked if I was interested in a quote, and I said only if I could ask some questions.

At that point the guy on the phone, said ok no worries and put the phone down!!

What is it with people, not wanting to provide honest professional information!!

Anyway, if anyone can help provide me with answers/links etc I will promise not to rant

 

[Glassglen]

Toughened glass would be used for low level 800mm or lower off the floor and in doors and windows directly beside doors.
I believe 90% of the unit is filled with gas, argon as standard but you can have krypton or xenon which will give you better u values.
Triple glazing is normally done in a standard 70mm frame but uses a smaller bead, this is probably something to do with if the frame was thicker most people would have to have their plaster line hacked back to take the new frame.
You would probably get just as good noise reduction using double glazing with acoustic laminated units as you would triple glazing with standard low e units.
Standard double glazing I.e 4-20-4 low e argon would give you a u value of 1.6, triple glazing with 4-12-4-12-4 argon units should give 0.8.

New aluminium secondary does not look to bad nowadays.
Hope that helps

 

[wood1e2]

Hi,

Sorry for the delay in responding. Many thanks.

I presume the 4-20-4 and 4-12-4-12-4 is the format, so Frame-gap-frame?

If it is I can see what you mean by 4-20-4 on Double Glazing, but 4-12-4-12-4 doesn't not add up to 70mm frame?

Obviously I am missing something simple here!!

 

[Glassglen]

4-20-4 would give you a 28mm sealed unit..the glass. 4-12-4-12-4 would give to a 36mm glass unit. The frame on a uPVC window is 70mm

 

[Normansmith]

Hi

Does anyone in this world, like to provide information on replacement windows?

I just had a guy on the phone looking to give me a quote. When I asked

Why do I need toughened glass?

Why is Triple Glazing not as good as advertised for noise reduction compared to double glazing?

Why is Triple Glazing not sold with a deeper frame, therefore would give better noise reduction than double glazing?

As I believe the space between glass gives the greater noise reduction? I may be wrong there.

Oh and being told it is a fad!! Well Sweden seems to like triple glazing, and Greek nightclubs do as well..for different reasons..ie noise!!

What percentage of gas is pumped into the double glazing, as I have heard that this is way of keeping costs down...sell double glazing with less gas!

Apart from not looking good, why is Secondary glazing no good...something from the 70's I was told!! Anyway the wife won't like secondary glazing even if the best solution to noise reduction!!

Anyway, before I got to the end of the first question, I was asked if I was interested in a quote, and I said only if I could ask some questions.

At that point the guy on the phone, said ok no worries and put the phone down!!

What is it with people, not wanting to provide honest professional information!!

Anyway, if anyone can help provide me with answers/links etc I will promise not to rant

Try these:
Might answer your questions


ukbifold.co.uk

aluminiumwindows.co.uk

 

[Redd]

Hi I know a lot about this industry having done extensive research to make sure I didn't get ripped off, acoustics generally better the bigger the gap, a 4-20-4 should be more than adequate and trying anything else would IMO be a risk, triple glazed may help but if the cost was much more I wouldn't bother, and he's argon gas helps but so does a well fitted window, ie a custom made to your size not a off the shelf fella, look no further than Anglian home improvements, if you can't be bothered having a pushy salesman round then take measurements from wall to wall yourself and pass in to your local guy, another 2 or three companies and also Anglian, if they "bottom" there price which they should for this type of approach then they won't be far of your local guy but will come with a top top quality product and a 10year gaurantee and 15 years on the glass. Don't waste your time with Everest way too expensive and not as good and weatherseal well I dare you if you decide to not measure and call them out then put lots of water in the kettle!! Seriously Anglian all the way however even if you do measure yourself and they come back with a decent price, haggle more! For UPvc and average 1200x1200 window should cost you around 4-500 fitted. If its timber windows then I would go local as Anglian are a fortune and I'm not convinced there made to measure but I could be wrong, good luck

 

[wood1e2]

Hi

Many thanks for the answers and advice.

We will be going uPVC Sash!! Two of the windows are about 1650 x 1850

And one about 1000 x 1850

So I suspect a little more than £500 each

We have had a quote from a manufacturer for all three windows installed at about £2000 + VAT

But I do not know the quality or set up of the windows. The window they supplied at the back of the house, which is uPVC and not sash was a Duflaflex! or something similar!

Anyway, I know we need toughen glass as windows are less than 800mm from floor level. And I am current looking at acoustic glass!

Once again many thanks