Really baffled

The_Hypnotist

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From what I read online:
- after I get my UTR, I need to register for self-assessment
- after registering, I'm getting an activation code through mail
- using said activation code, I activate the self-assessment service on the gov portal

I did all these, I activated the service accordingly, presuming that my sole trader status is activated by default.

Activation date: Feb 21st



I emailed my employers with the modification, stating my UTR number and asking for them to modify my details in their files.

But I get this reply: "It’s great that you now have the UTR number but we need the picture of the document issued by HMRC"...

Now: the only mail I received (besides the one that includes my UTR number) is the one with the activation code, and using the code made the paper discardable, which I did...

What document issued by HMRC are my employers talking about? Am I going to receive another mail pretty soon?

I've looked in my gov account and found no such mention of extra documents, so I'm left baffled by the whole situation.

Please help me out!
 
I'm a bit confused (though that doesn't count for much) as you say 'presuming that my sole trader status is activated by default.' but then mention your employers.

Are you a sole trader (self employed) or do you have an employer?

If you have an employer then you need (I
think) a NI (national insurance) number, not a UTR (unique tax reference).
 
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The_Hypnotist

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Basically, after the initial job interview, I started working for an agency, but they mentioned I needed to become self-employed.

So I did all the steps: getting an UTR, activating the self-assessment service.

I received the first payment invoice before getting the UTR number, and I'm getting the second invoice on March the 7th.

The agency considered me as self-employed from the start, even though I wasn't.

The payment invoice has the full sum, no deducted taxes, and I've not received any payslip, either electronically or paper-form.
 
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Mr D

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You need to clarify your status. Self employed may suit the agency, they get off the hook for employers NI and a ton of benefits.
However you need to investigate if you are self employed. The workers and employees have rights the self employed do not.
Sick pay, holiday pay, pension....?
 
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Hi,
From what you have explained above, without questioning whether your job is of employee or self employed nature.
Provide them the letter you received from HMRC with the UTR number, that should do.
HMRC wouldn't be able to issue any letters saying you are registered as self employed etc.
In some cases they accept if your accountant confirms that in writing.
PM if you need assistance further.
 
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